Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

[shawo]

look man if unravel is mafia nothing they've done makes any sense.

By virtue of that, and that alone, unravel is my hard townread.

Literally the rest of you have done things that I could construe as a mafia gameplan.

 

[epona]

bro I expect no one to work with me.

I'm just asking you to not be explicitly antitown because you dislike my playstyle.

i think you're town and am against lynching you
HOWEVER you keep harping on about how your playstyle isn't bad, just different to what is custom in tbt mafia, but if you're going to take that route then you can't just call everyone else anti-town
clearly there are different perspectives on what is anti-town
a lot of the players here would say that you softing, then hardclaiming, then posting like 8 nonsense haikus, clogging the thread and derailing the conversation is 'explicitly antitown'

instead of just abrasively defending the choices you've made so far and basically calling the rest of us stupid can you actually suggest who you think volt should execute and why

 

[Aerious]

look man if unravel is mafia nothing they've done makes any sense.

By virtue of that, and that alone, unravel is my hard townread.

Literally the rest of you have done things that I could construe as a mafia gameplan.

so once again: no explanation beyond "doesn't make sense as mafia"
ok

 

[shawo]

Things people have done that I dislike:
Glow: Pointed out the soft.
Aerious: Constantly distracting town by going, on, and on, and on, and on, and on about niche things that have no bearing about the game.
Ace: Constantly trying to ask me why I claimed PR when the current state of the game is perfectly fine.
Epona: Honestly they're just getting derailed by the conversation.
Voltaire: Applying pressure on pr softs.
Dinotown: I just think they're mafia.
Geoni: A lot of really bad lines.
Guava: literally hasn't done anything at all.

There's more but this is what I remember off the top of my head.

What has unravelled done?
Well they've at least outted reads, and the stupid white line flavor soft doesn't make any sense from mafia. The best you guys have got is that unravelled is lurking but they're literally giving reads now?

 

[unravel]

and this has to do with white text because? i'm p in favor of eliminating unravel

No, this js every mafia in general. I forgot which game but one time @Ness made a test and people call him distraction and stuff, i disagree that he's a scum then idk if things were kind of personal kr whatever back then then he got flipped town and people were like

I hope this rings a bell to some people i forgot which game is that i cant recall much cuz its been months i play mafia

Just because people are making a scene doesn't mean they're scummy

 

[shawo]

There's a mix of both people I townread and scumread in there.

I tossed in a few names even though I didn't have a specific example (mostly dino and geoni.)

But I'd much prefer lynching someone like guava who has just been actively posting memes rather than lynching someone like unravelled who doesn't post much but at least puts value in the posts I've seen.

 

[voltairenism]

Volt I'm so so sorry that you have to read through all this

ty for your sentiments

I'm with shawo that yall keep saying that talking about PR is bad yet keep doing it as I said my reasoning for lynching unravel was being unhelpful, not doing basic stuff about the game and doing some self-preservation after I pushed on them, nothing to do with the white text and y'all keep talking about the stupid pr claiming bull**** that is not helping ANYONE
I will read fleshy messages brb

 

[shawo]

Active filler is way worse than lurky content.

 

[epona]

Things people have done that I dislike:
Glow: Pointed out the soft.
Aerious: Constantly distracting town by going, on, and on, and on, and on, and on about niche things that have no bearing about the game.
Ace: Constantly trying to ask me why I claimed PR when the current state of the game is perfectly fine.
Epona: Honestly they're just getting derailed by the conversation.
Voltaire: Applying pressure on pr softs.
Dinotown: I just think they're mafia.
Geoni: A lot of really bad lines.
Guava: literally hasn't done anything at all.

There's more but this is what I remember off the top of my head.

What has unravelled done?
Well they've at least outted reads, and the stupid white line flavor soft doesn't make any sense from mafia. The best you guys have got is that unravelled is lurking but they're literally giving reads now?

this honestly feels tmi seeing as pretty much everyone on your dislike list has done a lot more than unravel with their 18 posts, of which 2 contain anything of substance

 

[Aerious]

Things people have done that I dislike:
Ace: Constantly trying to ask me why I claimed PR when the current state of the game is perfectly fine.

If you guys spent half the effort you spent looking at the weird things that happened on reading we might actually have a decent lynchpool today.
Just my two cents.

 

[shawo]

Again, just because someone is doing something doesn't mean they're doing nothing.

I'll go and ISO locket if you want too?

DO you want a step by step analysis of why none of their posts make any sense from a mafia perspective or do you just want me to lynch the players who are trying the least in order, starting from unravelled.

 

[DinoTown]

"A lot of really bad lines"
"I just think they're mafia"
"literally hasn't done anything"

Shawo, you said you wanted to be King, right? Your confidence in so many people being bad and anti-town is really messing your chances of that if the KM is in this group.

 

[shawo]

Mechanically speaking town is in a good place currently.

 

[voltairenism]

also I dont think geoni is being confusing so I don't see your point on why is that anti-town while I do agree me pressing the soft pr was a bad thing

 

[shawo]

oh no I don't expect to be king.

I'll call everyone mafia until they towntell.

 

[epona]

i'm beginning to think unravelled is just town bc they'd be trying harder if they were getting this pressure as maf honestly

 

[shawo]

also I dont think geoni is being confusing so I don't see your point on why is that anti-town while I do agree me pressing the soft pr was a bad thing

To reword it: I would better describe it as "Geoni has made posts that don't make sense to me from a town perspective."

Geoni has said things that I was like "Who... thinks like that?"

Dinotown is more of a tonal read.

 

[unravel]

so you start with it to detract from shawo and you're surprised we're sussing you? and now you just like collecting mario stars????????

Bruh i just wanna get involved in the game also i didnt know there are star characters in mario i see them as coins like super mario 64 game

 

[Aerious]

Bruh i just wanna get involved in the game also i didnt know there are star characters in mario i see them as coins like super mario 64 game

ok but why did u include the white text i don't understand.. u could've joined in and added points/formed arguments

 

[N e s s]

Spoiler: no thoughts, head empty zzzzz

@Geoni You might be putting too much stock in me knowing what to do lol, I'm disciplined but I feel like I've either forgotten how to scumhunt or I'm suffering from the day 1 confusión. If I were to give a rough estimate of my "towncore" though (as Jacob said in the general thread dunno when that term became a thing) it would probably look like this:

Sidney: Off the fact that she's says she's actively taking notes on who she thinks is town really feels genuine to me, I don't think she is faking any of her posts. She's probably the strongest lean I have as of right now. This post is also super townie:

I think I want to see more people at least answer the questions asked before making any judgements...I’m still not seeing a whole lot to go off of yet personally,, don’t have much to add to the current ....whatever is happening

glow: Decently confident she's town, more of a tentative thing because I'm finding myself aligning with her thoughts and this seems like to be standard for her. She's had a strong opening and seems to be thinking outside the box, noticing some things I haven't noticed.
Voltaireism: Gut feeling as of right now more than anything, they just seem town off their mannerisms and tone in the thread as of right now
epona: I dunno, maybe I can't read her but my gut is telling me not to trust her even if her content is fine enough?? It's like iLoveYou in Call the Ships to Port where it's easy to townlean her but ehhhh. I kind of think she should be kinged sometime in the future since I think that would help me solidify my opinion of her somewhat
DinoTown: Maybe unpopular opinion but I don't think I'm convinced it's them, the fact that they were willing to be replaced off of being scumleaned for an arguably bad reason feels town to me because I can empathize with it. Lord knows how much Toadsworthy made me want to off myself for bad reasoning

Aerious is also mostly in my townleans because from what I know about her it's difficult for me to imagine her being scum while simultaneously being the player to generate the most discussion in the game, but the fact that she keeps making arguably bad/moot points consistently I just don't like it. I don't particularly like their recent posts regarding Unravel since I feel like the argument their making is a bit disingenuous to what Unravel was saying, which I don't even think they are softing blue anyway.

you softing pr to try and avoid the elimination? or are you trying to guilt volt into keeping you alive as a townie? you don't mind dying later but wanna throw 2 others down before yourself? the defense is manipulative as hell

Personally I don't think they're being "manipulative as hell" (that's pretty hyperbolic). I'm more willing to keep Aerious in the grey, but if I had to pick one I think she's probably town. Also, off my knowledge of the Mario games I kindaaaa have an idea what unravel is trying to say they are, assuming they feel like going the full mile and eventually claiming.

Ok but the state of the game was caused when I RECEIVED PRESSURE FOR WHAT I WAS DOING TOO.


I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS ABOUT THIS STUFF.

Stop being holier than thou if u can't even explain why it's bad mechanically, thanks.

I can explain it, you could have just stayed quiet and swayed the elimination off you by just being a regular person. It's getting exhausting to see you complain about this every single time you post, move on already.

not a huge fan of @Geoni appealing to me and @N e s s to form a towncore bc i'm not even a little bit comfortable townlocking them both rn

both extremely capable of deepwolfing SO

I'm flattered you think I'm capable of that but I really do be feelin like a dummy rn :, )
But fr I get it but I don't think Geoni was making an appeal to either of us, I just think it's common sense from my pov that someone like you and (this sounds conceited...) I are capable of being leaders

Also I'm seeing some things floated around about Fleshy, I kinda agree with it in that he's only really focused on Ace. Gun to my head I think his posts have been wishy washy, he's also kind of contradicted himself on his opinions regarding Shawo's claim. Before he openly outted himself in thread, he said this:

As someone who mentioned being sus of Shawos first posts, I think this is odd. Based on what, 'softclaiming' PR? I think it's pointless and anti-town too, but also most likely just a joke - why suggest a kill based on so little, especially when we haven't seen a lot from others or even Shawo himself...

And then when solidified, pivots to the position of casting doubt on his claim.

Shawo

Which put a target right on your back from the get-go, I just don't know why you'd draw so much attention to yourself right from the start if you're truly PR

As of right now I'm probably most on board with a Fleshy elimination, but it would help if @shawo could explain to me why he feels like Dino/Ace are the best eliminations other than just parroting their names repeatedly. I also wish @guav@ would contribute more because other than the now gone Feferily, she is the player who has been the most absent.

Also i really just bopped out to the able sisters theme for 30 minutes, how time flies...