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Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!
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Ace Marvel
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Hey Bell!
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
im sorry what does flashed out means? (is it fleshed out?)
MyLifeIsCake
~Impossomble~
I literally come back from work, get all cozy and get some snacks ready to read and relax and I come back to see this. Where did this come from Volt? You were all ready to execute Dino yesterday, then everyone wanted to go for Fleshy, and now suddenly you bring up my name even when most people believe I side with town? This seems like a last minute cop out to get Fleshy off the chopping block.
If my head rolls today ya'll going to see who volt is really sided on.
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
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DinoTown
Festive Fossil
Welcome Bell!!
this is MAD defensive yo it might just be cake
(Pink is slight scum lean now) Anyone missed, I just don't have much to say that hasn't already been said/that I haven't already said myself, or I'm null.
Geoni, I have you as slight town read, and I don't like to bring up people's reads on myself while reading them and I understand that it's D1 and we have little to go off and no PR insight, but I do think voting for me based on my comments toward Ace and the fact I had only really mentioned 3 people in 8 posts, is rather weak. I'd like to hear your opinions on my posts explaining my actions before EOD if possible, as it seems like a shot in the dark to go for me, which I would usually say is anti-town, but I myself am able to see where I've messed up, so it's at least somewhat understandable.
Anyway, as mentioned before, I find Geoni hard to read, I'm wary of townlocking, but I haven't seen anything so far that is questionable. He brought up a few things in your reads of everyone that I hadn't noticed myself, namely the comment about Cake likely being an uninformed player with no scum buddies (below). I think the level of effort put into questioning everyone is pro-town, but I assume it'd be the same regardless of alignment.
Sidney
If scum, I think her scumteam would be wary or this and would ward her away from being so reserved and unsure as it leaves more room for slip ups. The lack of solid content could raise flags, and maf would want to avoid that, which isn't happening. Enough effortis being put in but not to the point that it's too 'high effort'. I just don't see Sidney being scum, I'd really be surprised.
Ace Marvel
I've just now had a quick look through some of your other games and quickly noticed more than one example of you mentioning always being town, I shouldn't have jumped on you so quickly for that and instead actually took the time to read - I mean it when I say I've learned from that, I thought just throwing myself back into things blind would be better, but that wasn't the case. I'm still not totally comfortable with how you were so adamant on Shawo for elim so close to the start of the game, yet flip me to red for questioning and looking at you because of it. Like I said before, I don't think anything I've said about you is completley unreasonable or out of left field.
I'm moving you to null, because I was wrong, but I've also seen some things that come across anti-town, so I'm also wary of townreading you.
DinoTown
There's been a lot of distracting (purposeful or not, I don't know) and contuning topics that you're aware are anti-town, a lot of confusing content that I wouldn't expect from you, and now your more recent posts seem to be more passive. I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting me also, as I don't see you mentioning me in thread, I'm hesitant to say you're wagoning, but when you don't /need/ to vote, I'd expect a good reason to push for someone before voting, otherwise it comes across that way honestly. Which is the exact reason I haven't pushed for anyone yet - I can't really give a solid reason. As I said for Geo, it seems like a shot in the dark. It could be an attempt to get the heat off yourself, which I do understand and isn't AI. All in all I'm 50/50.
unravel
If I absolutley had to vote today, I'd be going with unravel.
Again, I'm not one to really be commenting on low weight posts considering I should have done a lot more, but I'm being scumreadfor it and I'll bring it up anyway. A lot of your earlier posts kind of.... bring very little, it could be in attempt to fly under the radar unnoticed.
I'm still all over the place with your soft-claim but actually not a soft claim at all just a comment about mario collecting stars.
Shawo has 'read all of your posts', but is still sure that was a soft claim even though you've said it wasn't....? Something been said elsewhere, or did you just miss that, shawo?
Geoni, I have you as slight town read, and I don't like to bring up people's reads on myself while reading them and I understand that it's D1 and we have little to go off and no PR insight, but I do think voting for me based on my comments toward Ace and the fact I had only really mentioned 3 people in 8 posts, is rather weak. I'd like to hear your opinions on my posts explaining my actions before EOD if possible, as it seems like a shot in the dark to go for me, which I would usually say is anti-town, but I myself am able to see where I've messed up, so it's at least somewhat understandable.
Anyway, as mentioned before, I find Geoni hard to read, I'm wary of townlocking, but I haven't seen anything so far that is questionable. He brought up a few things in your reads of everyone that I hadn't noticed myself, namely the comment about Cake likely being an uninformed player with no scum buddies (below). I think the level of effort put into questioning everyone is pro-town, but I assume it'd be the same regardless of alignment.
Sidney
Strong town. I'm keeping the above comment by Shawo in the back of my mind while making this read, and it's much more than high effort that I'm seeing here. Sidney has been rather wishy-washy a few times;
i don’t have a person I’m sure on still so I’m going to watch for a bit longer, maybe voice some more Thoughts/questions if I have any decent ones and then I will
If scum, I think her scumteam would be wary or this and would ward her away from being so reserved and unsure as it leaves more room for slip ups. The lack of solid content could raise flags, and maf would want to avoid that, which isn't happening. Enough effortis being put in but not to the point that it's too 'high effort'. I just don't see Sidney being scum, I'd really be surprised.
Ace Marvel
I've just now had a quick look through some of your other games and quickly noticed more than one example of you mentioning always being town, I shouldn't have jumped on you so quickly for that and instead actually took the time to read - I mean it when I say I've learned from that, I thought just throwing myself back into things blind would be better, but that wasn't the case. I'm still not totally comfortable with how you were so adamant on Shawo for elim so close to the start of the game, yet flip me to red for questioning and looking at you because of it. Like I said before, I don't think anything I've said about you is completley unreasonable or out of left field.
I'm moving you to null, because I was wrong, but I've also seen some things that come across anti-town, so I'm also wary of townreading you.
Also this post, I would have liked to hear some of your comments to know what your current thoughts on me are, and why my explanation for why I was looking at you fell short, I don't like how you just dismissed it, though it's easier to wagon when nobody is actually saying much about it, isn't it? You're quick to ask questions but dodge when you're asked (when you were asked to explain your rainbow list, when I asked your thoughts..), the more I read the more that stands out.
DinoTown
There's been a lot of distracting (purposeful or not, I don't know) and contuning topics that you're aware are anti-town, a lot of confusing content that I wouldn't expect from you, and now your more recent posts seem to be more passive. I'd like to hear your reasoning for voting me also, as I don't see you mentioning me in thread, I'm hesitant to say you're wagoning, but when you don't /need/ to vote, I'd expect a good reason to push for someone before voting, otherwise it comes across that way honestly. Which is the exact reason I haven't pushed for anyone yet - I can't really give a solid reason. As I said for Geo, it seems like a shot in the dark. It could be an attempt to get the heat off yourself, which I do understand and isn't AI. All in all I'm 50/50.
unravel
If I absolutley had to vote today, I'd be going with unravel.
Again, I'm not one to really be commenting on low weight posts considering I should have done a lot more, but I'm being scumreadfor it and I'll bring it up anyway. A lot of your earlier posts kind of.... bring very little, it could be in attempt to fly under the radar unnoticed.
I'm still all over the place with your soft-claim but actually not a soft claim at all just a comment about mario collecting stars.
Shawo has 'read all of your posts', but is still sure that was a soft claim even though you've said it wasn't....? Something been said elsewhere, or did you just miss that, shawo?
I really don't want to go too hard, but AtE?Bruh i just wanna get involved in the gamealso i didnt know there are star characters in mario i see them as coins like super mario 64 game
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
I was never ready to execute dino?kkkkk
Can you discuss why do you think it's fleshy in contrast to what I said about being a popular vote aka mafia could be hiding between the votes and settling for it?
And I said in the beginning of the game that I would pitch ideas in case I thought we were stagnating.
Can you discuss why do you think it's fleshy in contrast to what I said about being a popular vote aka mafia could be hiding between the votes and settling for it?
And I said in the beginning of the game that I would pitch ideas in case I thought we were stagnating.
Welcome!
fwiw i completely disagree with this btw
i don't think sidney is scum (for now) but i'm at odds with your reasoning. a new player who rands scum will very often be encouraged by scumbuddies to rely on their new-ness/nervousness/lack of confidence as a way of copping out of making reads and just sheeping what other people say so the fact that she's unsure isn't a towntell at all imo
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shawo feels tmi to me also
like if unravel is the execution today and flips town, i'm going to have to reconsider my townread on shawo bc right now it looks to me like he latched onto the increasingly likely probability that unravel would be the flip today following all the softclaim bs and started HARD DEFENDING them to gain 'told u so' town cred when they flip town, bc he knows they're town (in this hypothetical situation where unravel is town and shawo is maf)
he claims the unravel suspicion has come out of nowhere but that's not true, i started pushing a lynch on unravel over 24 hours ago bc they were making stupid dumbtell mechanics mistakes/asking questions that had been answered multiple times which rlly pinged me as trying to construct a fake derpclear
as well as that, i called them out on not contributing/saying anything about the actual gamestate and they kept ignoring me, i had to push multiple times to get anything useful out of them so i don't think ppl's sus of unravel is as unfounded as shawo claims it is
anyway yeah tldr if unravel flips town shawo looks bad to me
That's an angle I never considered, and I suppose it would all depend on who her scum buddies are if she were scum. I still stand by what I've said though, what you've said is valid but surely they would at least have her vote - to echo what they are voting? The sheeping / lack of true reads can be brushed off as her team using it to let her fly under the radar, but why avoid voting, it'd be a free maf vote. If she were to wagon and get pressured for it, her buds could coach her into feigning ignorance, but she hasn't even voted. I'm probably looking into it too deeply at this point, but I stand by my reasoning.
what does voting have to do with this? the only person who rules is king
first of all: distancing. if all maf are on someone who flips town that is... awful and pretty much never happens because it's awful
secondly there's no actual voting mechanic in this game, at the end of the day ppl can not vote and it makes no difference it's up to the king
volt what I mean is that you're the only person who looks like they've given a genuine thought process as to your reads on unravel.
I mean throughout the game I've said ur my TR because it does look like you're actualyl reading the game.
I mean I will fully admit to outting reads I odn't really care to explain, but when pushed on it I'll at least be able to explain. I think the difference is most notable because if someone wanted to convince u- they'd back it up with the posts that happened in the game rather than just assert their lynches (like me.)
I had no real plan on getting any of my scumreads lynched besides just vaguely asserting that my read is my read.
But now I really can't let unravel die.
If u tr me don't lynch unravel, cuz i'm gonna get scumread if they flip town or maf LOL.
also epona, can u quote the posts where unravel asked any questions 24 hours ago?
I didn't see any questions iirc when I checked. There were only 8 posts of value and no dumb questions.
I mean throughout the game I've said ur my TR because it does look like you're actualyl reading the game.
I mean I will fully admit to outting reads I odn't really care to explain, but when pushed on it I'll at least be able to explain. I think the difference is most notable because if someone wanted to convince u- they'd back it up with the posts that happened in the game rather than just assert their lynches (like me.)
I had no real plan on getting any of my scumreads lynched besides just vaguely asserting that my read is my read.
But now I really can't let unravel die.
If u tr me don't lynch unravel, cuz i'm gonna get scumread if they flip town or maf LOL.
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also epona, can u quote the posts where unravel asked any questions 24 hours ago?
I didn't see any questions iirc when I checked. There were only 8 posts of value and no dumb questions.
MyLifeIsCake
~Impossomble~
If you want to see a member of town die be my guest.
You said here this was your preferred order for who you'd want to lynch earlier. I don't know why you pulled my name out of nowhere after taking a life-altering bath. I obviously have no power against your rule if you make that decision.
If you want a member of the town dead be my guest.
I don't know why that text appeared on the top and bottom but take it as a cryptic message
You said here this was your preferred order for who you'd want to lynch earlier. I don't know why you pulled my name out of nowhere after taking a life-altering bath. I obviously have no power against your rule if you make that decision.
If you want a member of the town dead be my guest.
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I don't know why that text appeared on the top and bottom but take it as a cryptic message
I worded it badly, obviously there is no real voting, I meant more hypothetical, putting myself in those shoes I would rather something was said one way or another, although irrelevant. The distancing point though, something I overlooked, that part of my logic for townreading her is weak
Lastly: my point regarding unravel's soft claim was that.
Regardless of what it was trying to say, it makes no sense for MAFIA to have done that.
In my humble opinion, mafia wouldn't post complete nonsense, or a soft that's clearly not about their role.
The only reasonable mafia explanation I have is...?????????????????????????????
None. Zero. I think the fake-soft-claim thing is towny.
Regardless of what it was trying to say, it makes no sense for MAFIA to have done that.
In my humble opinion, mafia wouldn't post complete nonsense, or a soft that's clearly not about their role.
The only reasonable mafia explanation I have is...?????????????????????????????
None. Zero. I think the fake-soft-claim thing is towny.
5) As a King how will you go about having a leadership position in general, in addition to the question above?
Do you guys even nominate me? Cuz tbh I never been to king role anyway
But yeah if I was which I really doubt based of everyone's suspicion/analysis u
No suspicions so far and I can't read the newbies im not saying ill give them a free pass tho
Occam's razor states that the simplest answer to why something is done is why it happened - unravel softed their flavor role, which mafia has no reason to do.
I personally don't think that's a stupid question but those were also unravel's first 2 posts iirc.
The first one doesn't count for much, but the second I can give credit for.
I'll look back at it.
But also... why couldn't unravel just ask their mafia partners lmao.
fwiw though imo that follows a fairly logical progression.
1. I can't get nominated by the km.
2. KM is nominated by a user not a group.
3. Oh! Well, if KM is a user, then how would someone be selected since N1 was skipped.
it's not an unreasonable question given the circumstances.
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I personally don't think that's a stupid question but those were also unravel's first 2 posts iirc.
The first one doesn't count for much, but the second I can give credit for.
I'll look back at it.
But also... why couldn't unravel just ask their mafia partners lmao.
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fwiw though imo that follows a fairly logical progression.
1. I can't get nominated by the km.
2. KM is nominated by a user not a group.
3. Oh! Well, if KM is a user, then how would someone be selected since N1 was skipped.
it's not an unreasonable question given the circumstances.
