i never said it was aggressive just that it stood out to me
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i never said it was aggressive just that it stood out to me
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
i really am trying..... even though shawo’s actions are exactly one of my big triggers. See my blow up ala ness the last game I played.
so I am explaining my point, probably over explaining, because I do think there is some scum suspect in what shawo’s ultimately doing
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I think shawo is playing that out more than you, I don’t Know what else to say to it, as idk how else I could’ve phrased that? I was sick of hearing him go on about mechanics after he was telling people to stop.... so that’s how it came out?
okay, i understand that
i'm not very concerned about it. i obviously can't speak for shawo but for me this level of defence over it definitely isn't necessary. i'm by no means scumreading you or even saying that the post is AI really, just that i was making a mental note of it
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as an aside - have fun this weekend!! i met my new niece (3 months old!!) for the first time on sunday so very relatable content. enjoy!!
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
Short reads on everyone else
Punchy and bianca don’t sit right, but they never do
Aetherious’s conversation and suggestion of role claiming also is strange, but I’m inclined to think it’s townie bleed because if you are cognizant enough to know what rc is, then you’re cognizant enough to know not to talk about it and why would a mafia say anything like that so early
Daniel and Epona I give Town cred for actually reading and responding, but I’m aware both are good enough to do that early game
Everyone else, please weigh in
when I was reading and interacting with you during the game I hosted I remember thinking... “damn she is gonna hate playing with me”
Punchy and bianca don’t sit right, but they never do
Aetherious’s conversation and suggestion of role claiming also is strange, but I’m inclined to think it’s townie bleed because if you are cognizant enough to know what rc is, then you’re cognizant enough to know not to talk about it and why would a mafia say anything like that so early
Daniel and Epona I give Town cred for actually reading and responding, but I’m aware both are good enough to do that early game
Everyone else, please weigh in
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when I was reading and interacting with you during the game I hosted I remember thinking... “damn she is gonna hate playing with me”
I’ve been thinking about this since I woke up, but I’m sensing a weird energy within Toads/Shawo right now, it feels vaguely TownVScum at the moment. I dislike how Shawo felt a need to write out a text-wall to justify their trolly behavior with “I think they were sus” and nothing else. It reads as an attempt to backtrack rather than actually have any substantial suspicion on Ace Marvel or Toadsworthy, and it's all just so especially unnecessary to be this defensive if it really wasn't that big of a deal.
I don't see the motivation to be doing this from a pro-town mindset. It's like... why bother? What do you stand to gain from screwing around? I don't think the idea of Shawo joke voting Ace Marvel wouldn't be that bad if he did it just to mess around and hopefully stand to get a reaction out it, but he admitted that he had no reason for it. From my perspective it looks so unnecessarily defensive if it really wasn't meant to be that big of a deal, like he is conscious about how others are perceiving him.
It really isn't justified to be voting toads like this if you don't think that's enough for him to be mafia. Toad's voting you isn't that much better than you voting him, but you're literally just voting him because he was mean to you.
Granted, @toadsworthy I think you’re also being unnecessarily aggressive about this, but I do align more with your thoughts on the situation. What do you think about my opinion here? Do you think Shawo should be considered a wagon this phase?
And then...
I don't see the motivation to be doing this from a pro-town mindset. It's like... why bother? What do you stand to gain from screwing around? I don't think the idea of Shawo joke voting Ace Marvel wouldn't be that bad if he did it just to mess around and hopefully stand to get a reaction out it, but he admitted that he had no reason for it. From my perspective it looks so unnecessarily defensive if it really wasn't meant to be that big of a deal, like he is conscious about how others are perceiving him.
It really isn't justified to be voting toads like this if you don't think that's enough for him to be mafia. Toad's voting you isn't that much better than you voting him, but you're literally just voting him because he was mean to you.
Granted, @toadsworthy I think you’re also being unnecessarily aggressive about this, but I do align more with your thoughts on the situation. What do you think about my opinion here? Do you think Shawo should be considered a wagon this phase?
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Penny for your thoughts? What about it is bleeding?
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Eh. It could be a slip but when it comes to reading Bianca I think it's generally NAI. I think I've accused her of more in previous games so I don't think it's worth pursuing, at least from my point of view.
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This is a more eloquent version of my thoughts on Shawo, I like this.
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Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
I believe we are in the same route with me, no one reads, I say something silly, they scum read me, I never become top wagon, eventually I will get kill and that's it. So this time I will be trying to steal the spotlight to see who wants to give it, or worse take it away from me.
I don't like Shawo wagon, but I don't have anything else.
@glow I will vote for you, because I feel like it.
I don't like Shawo wagon, but I don't have anything else.
@glow I will vote for you, because I feel like it.
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
@Ness while I think I did have some more snarky posts last night, I believe my aggression is warranted in dealing with someone as bold as shawo. That being said, I don’t think I’ve been like out of line like I sometimes can be since it’s all related to gameplay.... Lord knows though if I see a case being led on me that I don’t think is substantiated, I’m gonna drive it into the ground. And that’s something I’ve done as town and scum
your post puts into better words what I was trying to get at about cherry picking my posts. But I get stuck in going further because people would just backlash at me saying it was OMGUS.
I do think shawo should be in contention for elimination. I have seen people meme and joke early in game before, but this doesn’t seem to fit that pattern and is more avoidant. Then waking up to the case on me I was like, wtf.... the best way I can describe what I think it is is like pre-OMGUS like he knows I’m gonna pursue this case so he is trying to beat me to the punch, everything abouthis posts seem calculted
like how he throws in “am I the only one who cares about mechanics” and justifying all his mechanics posts when no one was really questioning them that hard, but more so questioning why he was so adamant about us believing him
your post puts into better words what I was trying to get at about cherry picking my posts. But I get stuck in going further because people would just backlash at me saying it was OMGUS.
I do think shawo should be in contention for elimination. I have seen people meme and joke early in game before, but this doesn’t seem to fit that pattern and is more avoidant. Then waking up to the case on me I was like, wtf.... the best way I can describe what I think it is is like pre-OMGUS like he knows I’m gonna pursue this case so he is trying to beat me to the punch, everything abouthis posts seem calculted
like how he throws in “am I the only one who cares about mechanics” and justifying all his mechanics posts when no one was really questioning them that hard, but more so questioning why he was so adamant about us believing him
It's not a wagon yet though, what don't you like about it?I believe we are in the same route with me, no one reads, I say something silly, they scum read me, I never become top wagon, eventually I will get kill and that's it. So this time I will be trying to steal the spotlight to see who wants to give it, or worse take it away from me.
I don't like Shawo wagon, but I don't have anything else.
@glow I will vote for you, because I feel like it.
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
It's so easy, like really easy. If Shawo is mafia, there is no game easy.
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
I believe we are in the same route with me, no one reads, I say something silly, they scum read me, I never become top wagon, eventually I will get kill and that's it. So this time I will be trying to steal the spotlight to see who wants to give it, or worse take it away from me.
I don't like Shawo wagon, but I don't have anything else.
@glow I will vote for you, because I feel like it.
bruh only shawo Sussed you for one thing and then was off it... no one else otherwise is pushing anything on you so relax.
I would like to hear you elaborate on why you don’t like a shawo wagon, if so what do you think about all I’ve brought up about him
and I want more about your glow vote more than because I want to.... that doesn’t help anyone or anything
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
do you think shawo could be mafia? Or are you townreading him
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
1 is the norm, you'll see
3 I honestly feel like it, this game I will be as free as my hair.
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I can't think of a mafia move that starts with a vote so early without any reasoning. Just because my image looks like mafia, I mean that's so thin paper is jealous. But maybe I'm falling for it.
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
shawo comes from a different site (epicmafia i think) where voting behavior can be different. Different sites have different attitudes towards quick votes. So I don't see early voting as AI until its to seriously form a wagon
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Then we shouldn't vote to start a wagon by that reasoning.
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
well its not the vote that throws me off about shawo. its his change in tone after being called out and attempt to control the discussion while not discussing alternative topics
if people want to make a vote off of genuine vote I think that's fine. I'm concerned with the progression to a person's thoughts
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genuine sus*
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
@Damniel I think you are in a pro mindset, and this is a more relaxed game, that might be your downfall. We us noobs need time to catch up, before doing something sus worthy, so D1 efforts should go to position the vets somewhere.
Hey DQ, what’s up? I’m assuming you’ve been reading the suspicions about Shawo, I’m assuming you agree with most of it?
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
I'm also legit worry of Epona being town read so fast. Last time that was our doom and me being a cop and town locking The Godfather (Epona) So don't discard that she is super good at blending in.
@glow I placed my vote.
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@glow I placed my vote.
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