Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

[Damniel]

I'm also legit worry of Epona being town read so fast. Last time that was our doom and me being a cop and town locking The Godfather (Epona) So don't discard that she is super good at blending in.

what do you think Epona is posting that could possibly be scum motivated?

 

[Lothitine]

Hey DQ, what’s up? I’m assuming you’ve been reading the suspicions about Shawo, I’m assuming you agree with most of it?

Hi! Yep, I agree that they seem pretty sus with the way they were talking, and admitted to talking about the setup being a low hanging fruit kinda sounded like an excuse

 

[Ace Marvel]

what do you think Epona is posting that could possibly be scum motivated?

Nothing and that is the problem, last game started to just like this. So I'm saying town, but this might come back to haunt us later on.

 

[Damniel]

Hi! Yep, I agree that they seem pretty sus with the way they were talking, and admitted to talking about the setup being a low hanging fruit kinda sounded like an excuse

do you have any thoughts on anyone else? or what about toads and shawo's interaction?

Nothing and that is the problem, last game started to just like this. So I'm saying town, but this might come back to haunt us later on.

fair enough yea

 

[Ace Marvel]

Hi! Yep, I agree that they seem pretty sus with the way they were talking, and admitted to talking about the setup being a low hanging fruit kinda sounded like an excuse

Null, that's all.

 

[epona]

I'm also legit worry of Epona being town read so fast. Last time that was our doom and me being a cop and town locking The Godfather (Epona) So don't discard that she is super good at blending in.

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@glow I placed my vote.

i appreciate your concern and also echo it, but for different reasons. a few people have been townreading me with no real decent basis considering how early the game is (glow and bianca come to mind but i think someone else has also placed me as a townlean) and if y'all get me NKd early in the game for being a strong townie voice i'll be annoyed LOL

that said, i wouldn't waste too much time doing comparisons between my playstyles bc i am, in general, quite an objective and rational person and i think i play similarly both as scum and as town

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ebwop: **how early in the game it is

 

[Aerious]

Aetherious’s conversation and suggestion of role claiming also is strange, but I’m inclined to think it’s townie bleed because if you are cognizant enough to know what rc is, then you’re cognizant enough to know not to talk about it and why would a mafia say anything like that so early

i never suggested we rc -- want to clarify this. i asked when we do, bc the play style of tbt's forum mafia has changed from when i last posted

on that note, i'm wondering why people aren't sus of the people who've come in to type minimally and leaving. as of current:

Wait, shoot, did I miss it?

Good morning good night good whatever day it is I forgot this was happening Hello

Gelatin is bad so I personally think we should murder my gummy brotha Toads

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I lub dis drink

i understand that one of them is extremely new, not certain about sensei, but this just seems like people are playing in the shadows. we're working together to try and develop a strategy, makes me wonder exactly why people aren't entirely on board. i'm also suspicious of people who've piggybacked on answers instead of coming up with their own suspicions and explaining why. this seems like a more methodical approach to ensure we're not voting for town to be eliminated

rn i'm leaning with shawo being inno. i agreed that discussion is important. this game could be town- or scum-sided depending on which roles we have for town. let me clarify, i don't think we rc now, but i think it's good to prep for possibilities and people rcing later in the game. we also have no clue what the maf is made up of; worst case scenario, there's 3 ninjas and town has watchers/trackers. getting setup down/the understanding of how many maf we're facing is going to provide a decent foundation for later days and easier to ensure that we're picking off mafia for bad claims. i disagree that it's low-hanging fruit, i found it pretty useful to gain an understanding of what we're up against

 

[toadsworthy]

I also worry about Epona after watching her blend in last game... The Godfather thing didn’t help lol

but also a detective shouldn’t be so obvious after only one night read anyway but I couldn’t say that as a host lol

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Lynch gummy bro day 1 - lol

also @Aerious I never suggested you did say we should rc but I can see why you would think that based on my posts.... let me explain better

I think by just bringing up the idea of RC it can lead to someone just role claiming... which is why I wanted that convo to stop there

I also stand by I don’t think it’s scum aligning. Rather bleeds town because why would a scum even talk about it early day 1, I feel like newbie (or returning after a long time) players would not be thinking along like that... they’d be more preoccupied with staying under the radar

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If they were scum*

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And I would be more sus if people who post once and then dip, if that didn’t bite us in the butt so many other times. Like there are gonna be so many who either post once or never post during day 1... if we eliminate one of them, it doesn’t really give us any information to go off of... vs. if we lynch shawo (this is just an example calm down) then that could give us more information because a lot of us have given our input on him

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I never clicked edit!!! Wtf I’m sorry I didn’t change anything on my post!

 

[Damniel]

i understand that one of them is extremely new, not certain about sensei, but this just seems like people are playing in the shadows. we're working together to try and develop a strategy, makes me wonder exactly why people aren't entirely on board. i'm also suspicious of people who've piggybacked on answers instead of coming up with their own suspicions and explaining why. this seems like a more methodical approach to ensure we're not voting for town to be eliminated

rn i'm leaning with shawo being inno. i agreed that discussion is important. this game could be town- or scum-sided depending on which roles we have for town. let me clarify, i don't think we rc now, but i think it's good to prep for possibilities and people rcing later in the game. we also have no clue what the maf is made up of; worst case scenario, there's 3 ninjas and town has watchers/trackers. getting setup down/the understanding of how many maf we're facing is going to provide a decent foundation for later days and easier to ensure that we're picking off mafia for bad claims. i disagree that it's low-hanging fruit, i found it pretty useful to gain an understanding of what we're up against

i think you bring a fair point on Sensai. They're a brit so I wasn't expecting them to be present last night, but now that it's afternoon for them, I'm curious on Sensai's comments since I think enough has happened to provide insight. Frogslime and Ferarily haven't given any thoughts yet so I'm looking forward to what they have to say

I don't see how important talking about the actual power roles in the game is yet. It's not helpful until we get a flip that would give us insight on that. I think talking about how many scum there are is slightly more helpful than talking about powers, but it's a topic that is easy to talk about where you can post random conjecture without posting any thoughts on players at all. If you take away the talk of setup, I don't see much pro town substance from Shawo yet

 

[toadsworthy]

I was on mobile, i think that was my issue... but I busted out my laptop now

 

[Aerious]

also @Aerious I never suggested you did say we should rc but I can see why you would think that based on my posts.... let me explain better

I think by just bringing up the idea of RC it can lead to someone just role claiming... which is why I wanted that convo to stop there

I also stand by I don’t think it’s scum aligning. Rather bleeds town because why would a scum even talk about it early day 1, I feel like newbie (or returning after a long time) players would not be thinking along like that... they’d be more preoccupied with staying under the radar

ok! that makes a lot more sense. just trying to clarify so i ensure i have a better understanding of who's leaning on what

my question still applies tho: why are so many people providing unsubstantial posts/piggybacking off of what others say vs giving their own opinion?

I don't see how important talking about the actual power roles in the game is yet. It's not helpful until we get a flip that would give us insight on that. I think talking about how many scum there are is slightly more helpful than talking about powers, but it's a topic that is easy to talk about where you can post random conjecture without posting any thoughts on players at all. If you take away the talk of setup, I don't see much pro town substance from Shawo yet

it's not yet, but shawo's contribution to number of maf has been helpful. but it also makes me wonder, would mafia be inclined to throw people off about number? why did radical6 change the rules to 2kp after his discussion?

 

[Damniel]

And I would be more sus if people who post once and then dip, if that didn’t bite us in the butt so many other times. Like there are gonna be so many who either post once or never post during day 1... if we eliminate one of them, it doesn’t really give us any information to go off of... vs. if we lynch shawo (this is just an example calm down) then that could give us more information because a lot of us have given our input on him

i can the point here, but personally I don't agree with the philosophy, I think the best thing for us to do D1 is have town find each other and use PoE to tell who isn't actively participating yet. By setting a bar of engagement, it'll force scum to have to post more and get tangled up in their lies

so i'm not unopposed to your thoughts on a shawo wagon, but I think voting coasters to get everyone to engage is valuable

it's not yet, but shawo's contribution to number of maf has been helpful. but it also makes me wonder, would mafia be inclined to throw people off about number? why did radical6 change the rules to 2kp after his discussion?

i don't think maf is inclined to lie or tell the truth. i don't think the talk comes off as town or scum. But I don't like how he didn't want to continue talking about setup and just said "I'll end the discussion here" as if he has control, yet didn't bring up other points to talk about

host said they were talking to Geo about setup and changed it. don't think we should go deeper than that

 

[Ace Marvel]

but also a detective shouldn’t be so obvious after only one night read anyway but I couldn’t say that as a host lol

Please continue, I'm thrilled by you pointing out all my mistakes.

quite an objective and rational person and i think i play similarly both as scum and as town

That is why your or no one for that matter should be clear this early. You are right.

 

[radical6]

If anyone in obs wants to replace since I haven't made the chat yet that would be nice. I need a replacement.

 

[SensaiGallade]

i think you bring a fair point on Sensai. They're a brit so I wasn't expecting them to be present last night, but now that it's afternoon for them, I'm curious on Sensai's comments since I think enough has happened to provide insight. Frogslime and Ferarily haven't given any thoughts yet so I'm looking forward to what they have to say

I don't see how important talking about the actual power roles in the game is yet. It's not helpful until we get a flip that would give us insight on that. I think talking about how many scum there are is slightly more helpful than talking about powers, but it's a topic that is easy to talk about where you can post random conjecture without posting any thoughts on players at all. If you take away the talk of setup, I don't see much pro town substance from Shawo yet

If I'm gonna be honest I haven't been super motivated, which is my own issue I have to deal with.

I'm not sure what my initial thoughts are tbh. It's all kinda gone right over my head and I'm still trying to process things. I'm not sure I like the attitude and tone coming from shawo though. Maybe I'm over my head

 

[toadsworthy]

I'm gonna feel far less confident about my shawo wagon if so many people come in and jump on it though

also in response to @Damniel, I think its gonna be hard to have "town find town" when you have the potential for so many people who are portraying not-town behavior to still be town. I also don't know if i agree that voting an inactive will wake up other inactives to be more motivated to talk... I just don't feel like history shows that that works

 

[Ace Marvel]

I'm gonna feel far less confident about my shawo wagon if so many people come in and jump on it though

also in response to @Damniel, I think its gonna be hard to have "town find town" when you have the potential for so many people who are portraying not-town behavior to still be town. I also don't know if i agree that voting an inactive will wake up other inactives to be more motivated to talk... I just don't feel like history shows that that works

I'm still mad at you, you acted like Brandi season 3. Pointing out my cop mistake. not cool

 

[toadsworthy]

I'm still mad at you, you acted like Brandi season 3. Pointing out my cop mistake. not cool

sorry, it’s just constructive criticism. You know next time to play more lowkey if you are a detective, we all make mistakes in mafia... lord knows I have and people consistently point them out. So don’t worry about it, it’s all in the past now anyway.

 

[epona]

I'm still mad at you, you acted like Brandi season 3. Pointing out my cop mistake. not cool

dw, you actually weren't that obvious, i just picked up on it bc i was the one you inspected. a lot of people didn't notice til i pointed it out so i could use it to my advantage!!! it was just unlucky, and don't let it discourage you in this game

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If I'm gonna be honest I haven't been super motivated, which is my own issue I have to deal with.

I'm not sure what my initial thoughts are tbh. It's all kinda gone right over my head and I'm still trying to process things. I'm not sure I like the attitude and tone coming from shawo though. Maybe I'm over my head

i don't like the AtE going on here

 

[N e s s]

i don't like the AtE going on here

What about it? It does seem non-comittal but I'm not sure there's anything AI about Sensai there.