i think this is kind of just daniel's town meta tbh, he's very questioning of everything but tends to only actually comment on the answers if he thinks they give him something to work with
Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]
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i think this is kind of just daniel's town meta tbh, he's very questioning of everything but tends to only actually comment on the answers if he thinks they give him something to work with
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i think i’ve made clear of my thoughts on players so far. which questions do you think aren’t leading anywhere?
this one, for instance. your thoughts haven't been clear (to me at least). other players have made lists, you have a voting list/not where you lie in alignment. per the reasoning of others, it still feels slightly unclear to me where you lie, and it seems like low-hanging fruit is who you're sus of. not sure if i've missed anything
There are no coaches, this is not billed as a beginner game and it would be unfair for some people to have a coach and others don't.
but what is the goal ultimately? for a potential shred of info? i thought my point of ace's potential slip was valid, hence why i'm wondering why daniel asks Qs and skirted over that so easily
ok thanks, so let's be kind and patient to newbies
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to reiterate how i feel: not understanding why you were so dismissive of shawo, decided to entertain his discussion of mafia number, and then glaze over ace's potential slip bc "it's not plausible to you that there's a rb and ninja."
can you explain?
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i think i’ve commented on players progressively throughout the game. I find working through a PoE pool D1 easier which there’s just some players thatre engaging and more worth reevaluating after EoD behavior and then pursuing D2 onward. Im more interested in setting up the environment and getting all players to engage and not letting people stay in the shadows
this is more plausible to me, but there are still many people playing in the shadows atm
pls answer my last q tho pls
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
when did i entertain his discussion? i didn’t think it was importance enough for now and agreed to 4 scum for now. there being 3 or 4 scum doesn’t change my opinion for how to approach today at least, so it’s not in my priority
i think having both a ninja and roleblocker is possible so i didn’t push ace. ace has explained why he thought there were both and i find it NAI, do you think it’s worth pushing ace for still cause if so why not do it yourself
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yes which is why i’m good with bianca punchy and sensai being voted but think it should be sensai the most. lothine and pinkshade are quiet but i can rationalize that in either alignment so i don’t find it worth pursuing today
i did push him prior to going to bed. i brought it up again and ace currently isn't active. what more do you think i should do to mention it? i was mentioning this bc, as i said, i was surprised you didn't (just due to outside expectations).
you entertained his discussion when you said "ok so let's say there's 4 mafia." i cba to quote rn bc meeting and splitting headache, but it was last night during that discussion, but it just seemed like an odd flip upon first glance. not really understanding why there are people who don't see the importance in discussing mechanics when it's immensely important to have a brief understanding of what to expect, especially with the amount of newbies (first game, one of their first games, + returning) in this game
with this info, i'm gonna place my vote
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i don’t think there’s more to push, which is why i find it NAI lol
i find entertaining the discussion to be talking numbers and debating with him on it. i said okay with 4 as i didn’t find it worth arguing
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
I'm here, but I have nothing to say
i want to hear more from ace in the future. it's not enough for me to definitively pin him as scum, but it is a point for later. toads + me was too tunneled for productive outcome thus far, so i want to wait to hear more in upcoming days. i'm also not certain of where daniel lies. out of sensai and punchy, sensai's nonchalance about dying isn't rubbing me the right way. i'm going with sensai for now
also keeping in mind ace's willingness to help/flip from wagoning glow. not entirely certain why glow is being targeted, but sensai is outweighing
reasonable to entertain the possibility is diff from the wording provided. ace isn't clear, but it's not enough to be 100% scum
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also keeping in mind ace's willingness to help/flip from wagoning glow. not entirely certain why glow is being targeted, but sensai is outweighing
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
I'm in OMGUS mode and everybody don't get why, but no one has given me a reason not to do it. so I will keep this wagon alive until that happens.
pushing hard to lay a foundation for later days, bc it is a potential to consider
voting for someone bc there's no reason not to doesn't many much sense. what has glow said or done that's sus to you?
we played epic mafia together (instant chat mafia) so meh, not too translatable in detail
last game i played was actually our first ~Real~ forum game (not counting smol mafia) so you have about as much meta as i do on his forum play
broadly, his meta is a hindrance more than anything since i'd expect him to play the same way he's playing now as either alignment, he kinda did this in that previous game too. flippant, high emphasis on mechanics, he reads people based off logical connections and doesn't really operate based on traditional scumhunting. he applies a standard of logic universally to people and picks holes that might be logically valid, but i don't think he accounts for variances of personality / playstyle / etc (what i consider "traditional scumhunting") which explains his earlier opposition to ness imo.
it's notable that i think his tone is overall cooler than his mafia game, but that might bc everyone got mod warned lmao. i COULD see him as mafia here, but he's not really a lynch i want
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will come back to this one it's too hard to navigate searching on mobile when there's a high post count, even filtered
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well, i never scumread you so no omgus here
iirc i called you town around when you originally reaction tested me, sadly
though if you really intend to get me out of the game, the burden of proof is on you to prove and not on others to disprove you
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toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
I requested to be replaced last night too when I’ was feeing ganged up on but idk if any replacements are gonna be found... honestly you all keep saying to drop it, and I move on, but then I come back to three more posts and you expect me to not respond? Then I do and I’m scumread for being defensive. I’m trying to get out of this game trust me, but I also respect radical as a host to just give up.
I can’t even commit to my reads or say what I want to say now because I’m gonna get jumped by aerious, like this morning when I recapped my reasons for scum reading him and this started all over again or people put down my reads/ think they are biased because I had a heated argument with the person. That’s not fair to me and it’s why I even moreso requested out
And I already apologized to shawo, then said that I also felt antagonized in the ordeal, and he said he would not apologize just right to my face.
I can’t even commit to my reads or say what I want to say now because I’m gonna get jumped by aerious, like this morning when I recapped my reasons for scum reading him and this started all over again or people put down my reads/ think they are biased because I had a heated argument with the person. That’s not fair to me and it’s why I even moreso requested out
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And I already apologized to shawo, then said that I also felt antagonized in the ordeal, and he said he would not apologize just right to my face.
but i've apologized to you, and i don't think i've received one in response. that's my qualm. i may have missed the apology to shawo
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i'm also not attacking you. i'm standing up for myself with a rebuttal and i've explained my reasons to every one of your questions for me. though yes, it starts to read scummy after you've targeted two people for the reasons and started the game guns blazing on shawo
guys seriously i think you're both just better off not interacting with each other for the rest of this phase, neither of you are in contention to be eliminated today so just avoid each other for now bc this isn't resolving itself and it's making a crappy atmosphere for everybody
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