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[Heyden]

Hey y'all mamas home <33

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IM SORRY BUT JESUS THE VIGILANTE??

 

[Heyden]

hnng hnng hnng

 

[PandaDarling]

Hey y'all mamas home <33

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IM SORRY BUT JESUS THE VIGILANTE??

ha i have no clue... Ronald Reagan, Jesus, Cheese Grater, Mexican Rapist, Obama Bin Laden, Sean Hannity, i don't know anything goes i guess ? ? ?

 

[Heyden]

can i claim yet ;(

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will night end early if actions are sent it asap

 

[Arstotzkan]

At this point, don't Heyden. It'd only give scum more info to work with.

@meow Going back to the whole "is Heysen inno" thing, Alexi didn't try too hard to defend herself and she was mafia. And Heyden changes up his meta, but one thing that I remember in particular was that he was trying to scumhunt and develop reads. I don't see that so much here. Like for example this last post - he's more concerned with "Can I claim" than "Alright so wtf does this kill mean".

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Spoiler: D1 Votecount

Heyden - 0
Crys
Aronthaer

Aronthaer - 0
Heyden

Cory - 0
Crys

Alexi - 3
Aronthaer
Sarasakat
Cadbberry
Tardis2016

Cadbberry- 0
shiida

Inkling - 11
Xine
Shiida
Mother of all llamas
Panda1376
Ness
taesaek
ClamEatsCurry
Kevinnn
Crys
Alexi
Cadbberry

Call me Daniel - 1
Call me Daniel

Not Voting
Toadsworthy
Heyden
M3ow
Inkling
Cory
Qwerty111

Not sure what its worth rn but for future reference.

 

[Ayaya]

Ok I was a bit wary how both Xine and Kat, two who are agreed by majority as likely town, to be MIA when we're nearing the lynch. I looked through xine's posts to see how they stand and I noticed this:

I do not think Daniel would be bussing in this situation, it would be quite risky considering 1 of them was lynched D1.

There is likely one, at MOST two of his reads that might be marked as scumleaning that are his partners. But instead I believe he chose to either: A. townread them or B. mark them as null.

Therefor I think that almost all of Daniel's suspicious reads are town. I believe Crys is town. Sarasa is confirmed town. I believe that in Alexi, m3ow_, Mother of all llamas, there's a chance 1 is mafia and the rest are town. Personally I am leaning that they are all town BUT Daniel seems like the type of player to know not to do this, so I will hold the assumption one of them are mafia. As for which, I am not sure yet. But it is my opinion that we should not lynch in those three today. If they are mafia, it is likely another goon because Daniel would not want to push a lynch on one of their important members.

The other remaining mafia are hiding within Daniel's town and null reads. As common with most scum, the majority of his reads are townreads and nullreads. His alive townreads are as follows:
Aronthaer, Qwerty, Toadsworthy, Panda, Tardis

His nullreads:
Kevinnn - now Ayaya, Caddberry, ClamseatCurry, Heyden, Ness, Taesaek.

I have rethought my opinion of Aronthaer and realized something that I missed when I was posting earlier. Given that and how much Inkling pushed Aronthaer, I think Aronthaer is very likely doctor.
Personally I believe that Panda and Toadsworthy are town, but as for Qwerty and Tardis I am quite unsure about.

In nullreads I believe it is likelier to find the remaining scum in this list, namely: ClamseatCurry, Ness, and Ayaya.

I think Heyden, Caddberry, and Taesaek are likely town. I will of course elaborate on these reads later in the day, especially on ClamseatCurry, Ness, Ayaya/Kevinnn, Tardis, and Qwerty, because I want to lynch between those five today.

P.S. I believe Ness is the Serial Killer.

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Sorry for double post, it wasn't showing up for me for some reason.

Note the bolded/underlined here. Alexi was put as scumleaning by Daniel, but here xine said that he's more likely to put his scumbuddies on town/null. Notice how they brought up the possibility that his scumbuddies might be in scumleaning, but directed our focus on the null/town reads instead

Note how they brought up Alexi's name along with m3ow and llamas, say that there might be scum in one of them, but then say for us to not lynch them today, as it's likely that they're just goons. Alexi ended up being mafia and a GF at that.

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but still it's kind of odd how specific the misdirection is. Yes, I know they lead a lynch on inkling, but that could be just bussing their teammate to gain trust, plus their absence and this made me worry.

I'm just gonna wait to see what happens with this before analyzing further (though posting this now in case I died)

I think we can make sure if two doctors are really doctors by having them say who they protected after the deadline (for actions to be sent in) and before day post is posted. There's a one hour gap which should be enough for them to get on and confirm, right?

Saying this now so the doctors remember and don't use the "I forgot to send in an action omg!!" excuse and as someone who pretended to be a doctor before, I can imagine what they'll say if they're not a doctor and can't prove it. Will remind again once night is up.

 

[Heyden]

Assuming vig shot, we're looking at 2 kills a night, and if scum/3rd party has any hope of winning it'll take like 2 more weeks so ugh. I'm guessing at least one is scum between Qwerty, Llamas and Clam. What's the possibility of having another Vigilante/Jailer/Bartender maybe??

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Ayaya I think Xine's deduction was reasonable. You typically wouldn't bus important roles, because they can change mafia's night game. Its true they were incorrect, but incorrect doesn't mean unreasonable.

 

[Chris]

ok..... I feel comfortable telling everyone about this now. But I was the 1-shot vigilante and night 1, I killed Daniel

sorry I didn't tell everyone, but I was going to keep my mouth shut to see if someone else tried to claim it and not to draw attention to myself. I was gonna wait till end of night 2 to tell everyone so as not to affect mafia but say it so you guys would know looking back

if it was noobish of me to do that, I'm sorry but its what I felt comfortable doing and now I think its absolutely better that we know this now as we try to pick all the people to be townies

Quick half-asleep phone post so no colours or anything (yes I slept til 1pm 12hrs omg).

While I find the claim hard to believe as you left it so late (sometime in the last 6-12hrs of day when it was obv no one else would claim would have been great) gonna give you the benefit of the doubt. Which means hits N1 are almost definitely 2 maf, 1 SK, 1 Vig. With this info I think I trust the Sarasa/Xine save.

So Daniel was town-sided kill. Meaning Mafia/SK hits were Cory, Shiida, and Xine. Interesting combo. Who is ballsy and tried to take Xine? Who played it safe and shot Shiida? Was Cory a smart Mafia kill or an annoyed SK (I'm betting Mafia on this one).

I also wonder if Dolby put the strongest Mafia player as godfather (so Alexi) or if it was completely random and he didn't manipulate it. If he didn't, m3ow_/Panda/Xine are up there imo (I trust Sarasa as town rn). Although if Xine isn't town-aligned I'd peg her as SK. Which would mean ballsy or na?ve Mafia team if they tried to take her out (that applies regardless of Xine's alignment I'm too sleepy to try structure this properly on phone) as it would have been safe to assume she would be protected. I think the Shiida shot was very safe and most likely to be a smart SK kill.

Hopefully this isn't too gibberish-y.

 

[Heyden]

I'm pretty sure Shiida and Cory were the mafia kills to put the blame on Sarasa. Serial Killer I'm thinking could be a newbie because they targeted Xine, even though the Watcher would've been on them (I hope at least).
But yeah, there's still a chance toad is lying so if anyone has something to say about the N1 kills, pls speak up (or when D3 starts)

 

[Aronthaer]

Okay guys, here's a question for you: Who's your strongest town reads at the moment?

 

[PandaDarling]

Okay guys, here's a question for you: Who's your strongest town reads at the moment?

@Aron probably Sarasakat, she is the only one with a confirmed action (i've never seen a Mafia Doctor so i don't think thats her role.) and she is really trying to help scum hunt.

 

[toadsworthy]

I have to work today... but be back way in time to post some stuff before night ends
if anyone needs to ask questions about my 1-shot Vig stuff, just do it

 

[PandaDarling]

Assuming vig shot, we're looking at 2 kills a night, and if scum/3rd party has any hope of winning it'll take like 2 more weeks so ugh. I'm guessing at least one is scum between Qwerty, Llamas and Clam. What's the possibility of having another Vigilante/Jailer/Bartender maybe??

@Heyden but we've been getting scum every Day/Night phase so far so wy would you assume this is going to go on for 2 more weeks ? Also i don't know what a Bartender role is? and i was hoping there was a Jailor but in all the games I've been in so far the Jailor is announced pretty early cause of the people being jailed and Jailor announcing they 'know' certain peoples roles, so i think if there was one it would be known by now especially with all the role claiming you got everyone to do.

 

[toadsworthy]

I'm pretty sure Shiida and Cory were the mafia kills to put the blame on Sarasa. Serial Killer I'm thinking could be a newbie because they targeted Xine, even though the Watcher would've been on them (I hope at least).
But yeah, there's still a chance toad is lying so if anyone has something to say about the N1 kills, pls speak up (or when D3 starts)

why do you think I'm lying?

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imo, I think Xine and Shiida were mafia kills.... Xine because with everything going on with Aron and stuff, they thought they would be able to get her and Shiida for framing purposes, she was pretty vocal about go for Crys and someone else if she got killed.

 

[f11]

I think Daniel was vig, and xine sk,'the rest Cory and shiida were mafiakills imo

 

[tae]

Okay guys, here's a question for you: Who's your strongest town reads at the moment?

sure as hell not you, son.

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IM SORRY BUT JESUS THE VIGILANTE??

say it the spanish way, not the white people religion way. it makes more sense.

 

[Curry]

I think the mafia kills were Cory and Xine like Toad said. Everyone was so sus of Aron, and like we said during D/N1, why would the mafia kill him when they could use him as a scapegoat?

As for Cory, I think they would know Cory is a good enough player to figure them out fast so they wanted to take him out fast.

To answer Toad's question, the two people shiida said to go lynch when they died were Kat and Crys. I think killing shiida was more of a SK playing it easy.

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Toad said kills were shiida and Xine, not Cory and Xine, my bad.

 

[tae]

i feel like shiida's death happened because she was an easy target with her pots wordings. let me find quotes.

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why shiida was killed by the mafia: imo.

i knew dat
go lynch sarasa and crys thx goodbye and ilu all

btw if i die, crys is probably scum so build a case against her in that case pls.

okay, based on what's been going on rn, is anyone else super suspicious of cad and sarasa?

shiida pretty much went after kat, cad, and crys the most while she was still alive. we've got a claim from kat now which we're assuming is joat / doctor at this point. xine said they backed up kat's claim and thats why everyone has brushed off on the kat suspicion so far..

my point with shiida is i feel like she was an extra easy kill for mafia to send us in the wrong direction? her before death posts were so obvious and she was so sure of herself it would make town think that she was onto the right track. whether or not she really was, i don't know. the whole kat/xine pairing makes me uncomfortable thinking about it especially with xine MIA for the most important part of the last day phase.. voting.

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not to mention i don't know what the **** is going on with this whole aron is an idiot fiasco.

 

[Aronthaer]

I'm working on formulating a post that compiles all of Alexi's suspicions and reads so we can suck that dry but I don't have time to finish it atm. There were eight pages of her posts, so I've compiled all of the first for for you all. enjoy.

Me

(Me: ?Of course there is.I have my reasons for saying that, but if I told you themI 'd ruin what I had in mind haha ?)
okay, this is pretty scummy..
kinda been all over the place as of reading you, but this just does not sound town at ALL.

okay.. so @aron, flip flopping with being pro and being noob at this.
said you're playing as "50% mafia" like what?
APPEAL TO EMOTION LIKE CRAZY. i think this tops ness actually.
idk. i really don't know what to think. crazy 3rd party most likely.

oh my god. @aron - you claimed.
yeah, you ****ed up. but now you're just looking scummy as hell for trying to take it back and mess with our heads.

Yeah, after reading through the past couple pages (40 posts per page so it's not a lot), it really *SEEMS* like he's townie who THOUGHT claiming doctor would be a good idea.
Then when we all freaked out about him claiming, he realized it was the worst thing he could've done. So, I'm reading him as like 60% town 20% actual doctor 20% scum, for now.

@aron you were pretty sus to me in the beginning but like I said earlier thats pretty much gone so I'm as well not voting for you. think it's been established that voting our doctor is well.. stupid.

@shiida: exactly. hes coasting, which raises some sus but with what they did yesterday ugh. i'm not trying to repeat tarot day 1 and lynch one of our PR's but something about him just does not seem right.

yesss tae is back. im loving this right now - esp your read on aron. everyone wants to townread him but i can pull real quick 5+ quotes from him that sound scummy as hell.

the more i look into it, the more aron screams scum.

Either he is the doctor & messed up. Or he's scum and claimed doctor so he wouldn't get lynched.

Tardis2016

Idk what Tardis is even on about. Seems like he skims a lot or doesn't take the time needed to catch up on what he missed. I mean anyone can read what actually happened with the whole Aron thing & what he posted was way off. He's just rolling with whatever is favorable for town - pretty scummy to me.

(Crys: ?Honeydew or tardis lynch d1? ?)

i'd say so lmao

Cory (AKA Birdie Sanders, our watcher- Killed Night One)

About Cory.. idk, playing very weird this game. null atm.

N e s s

As per lately, Xine delivers with good reads and has similiar sus with who I'm thinking - which is Ness.

idk.. like I said, getting weird vibes from ness - i think he's just trying to take the attention off of the fact some of us were sus that he just left.

Multiclaim/other

Looking at the votes for me atm: Tardis, Aron, SarasaKat, and Cadbberry.

?
I guess if I had two strong reads for both:
m3ow_ / ness
Panda / Cory

heyden
reactions towards aron's claim seemed genuine. town to me.

call me daniel
also was there to react to aron's claim.. seemed kinda off with the "whats your role." instead of reacting to the fact our doctor just outted themselves. but, seems pretty town to me regardless.

tardis2016
as always, tardis just seems confused and i dont really think thats a good reason to be lynching him to be honest. idk what he is reallly.

panda1376
town. panda's been really helpful so far. i didnt really agree with her x cory back and forth but i guess both made sense.

sarasakat
also was there to react to aron's claim... actually kinda seems waay off and kinda scummy especially with asking about anyone's roles if they had one similar to Ronald Reagan... Idk if you meant to make it sound like that, but it did. thats been the one thing that seems off to me for her.

xine
xine always has good reasons but y'know, I didn't agree with the inkling case because theres lots of others who have yet to post a lot too, so that didn't make sense to me but the rest did.

crys
i'm awaiting this "[good]" post from crys. should be interesting.

toadsworthy
your read on sarasakat, while some points weren't as strong as they could've been, made sense. pretty town to me i think.

clameatscurry
not really enough posts to say, but the one they made about aron bringing attention to himself was smart and obv made sense. idk im null for them.

ness
unsure, but i think i'll be more sure when he posts more today.

cadbberry
her RQS seemed really off but it's her first game so, i'm really just thinking town. null, if anything.

m3ow_
said my opinion before.

inkling
as always a little defensive, but i think this time it was pretty justified.

kevinnn
null. hasnt posted enough.

cory
town. if anyone reads town in this entire list to me, it's cory.

taesaek
reactions to the DR claim seemed genuine and i agreed to them. pretty town to me.

aronthaer
i really dont know.

qwerty111
null. not enough posts.

mother of all llamas
null. not enough posts. but im glad they pposted their reads on everyone just recently.

I hope this is helpful.

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