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I've started reading, but feel I should clear up a little misunderstanding. While both the banned players were alternate accounts there is no reason to believe they were alts of the same person. So, to the person who focused on how they were posting differently (I think it was Aron?), there is nothing to be gained from comparing the two.

Haha, wasn't me. I haven't talked about the trolls/alts at all, actually.

Glad to see you're back! I'm still reading up too, I just got back from church.
 
If all actions are sent in will night end early?

This night seems a little too quiet.
 
I actually appreciate Crys this game. Idk why inkling tried to put a last minute case on them, if anything that would make him town. Also, any case against someone using the trolls is just kinda low, imo.


@Daniel, I thought you'd know how I am day 1 by now lol. At least I'm not hopping on every bandwagon every chance I get, I'm just agreeing with some reads I've seen. & I had to defend myself considering this was the first time I've gotten votes on me, not defending myself would be stupid.


I want to post my reads but it's night and i'm scared cause scum is watching soo I'll wait for day 2.
 
as im working on my other cases, i just wanted to say that honey.dew's replacement is probably town since inkling, a confirmed maf member, tried to get them modkilled immediately in the beginning when they jokingly asked if it was ok to pm other players.
 
@Daniel

why didn't you post reads during D1? IIRC you posted none. I genuinely don't like your interaction with Cory. How you both seem to townread each other for really weird reasons. I'll try to explain by coloring what your actual words connotate. There seems to be a weird disconnection in what you're saying and the conclusion you're drawing.

"Not too sure what I think of cory so far. He had a pretty big ego in putting himself in the strongest scum hunter pedestal, when he really wasn’t doing much. That seemed to me like he was shoving it down our throats that he was trying to help, and he spent more time telling us that actually scum hunting. I didn’t like that. But then I reconsidered my suspicions when he got into a very heated fight with Aron that almost made them quit the game. While you could say that’s a scum trying to make a distraction or pressing a town player into spilling the beans, I see really no purpose in scum doing this. In all the time I’ve played here, all of the heated fights(ex. Tae and Inkling in Tarot, Trojan and Ness in Scummies, Jacob and I in BoI etc), it’s mainly just 2 town fighting. Not only is it stupid to press him as scum because there’s really nothing else to gain from it because he already claimed doc and it would make him pretty suspicious to doing so for no reason. I town read him from this, EDIT: Also now that i read his cautiousness on immediately clearing Xine, it’s not logical but understandable. While I highly doubt Xine would drive a teammate to lynching but I understand the fear of trusting someone too quickly. I usually don’t trust anyone too much, until deeper into the game, so I see where this response would come from a town. Town leaning on him for me. "

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^^^ ugh oops i wasn't done with my post at all, just ignore and immma do an EBWOP
 
ignore previous post pls & ty

@Daniel

why didn't you post reads during D1? IIRC you posted none. I genuinely don't like your interaction with Cory. How you both seem to townread each other for really weird reasons. I'll try to explain by coloring what your actual words connotate. There seems to be a weird disconnection in what you're saying and the conclusion you're drawing.

"Not too sure what I think of cory so far. He had a pretty big ego in putting himself in the strongest scum hunter pedestal, when he really wasn?t doing much. That seemed to me like he was shoving it down our throats that he was trying to help, and he spent more time telling us that actually scum hunting. I didn?t like that. But then I reconsidered my suspicions when he got into a very heated fight with Aron that almost made them quit the game. While you could say that?s a scum trying to make a distraction or pressing a town player into spilling the beans, I see really no purpose in scum doing this. In all the time I?ve played here, all of the heated fights(ex. Tae and Inkling in Tarot, Trojan and Ness in Scummies, Jacob and I in BoI etc), it?s mainly just 2 town fighting. Not only is it stupid to press him as scum because there?s really nothing else to gain from it because he already claimed doc and it would make him pretty suspicious to doing so for no reason. I town read him from this, EDIT: Also now that i read his cautiousness on immediately clearing Xine, it?s not logical but understandable. While I highly doubt Xine would drive a teammate to lynching but I understand the fear of trusting someone too quickly. I usually don?t trust anyone too much, until deeper into the game, so I see where this response would come from a town. Town leaning on him for me. "

Everything in your townread of him makes me uncomfortable. like it just doesn't sit well at all. you're saying he's town for fighting with Aron, something that scum did (inkling), you're saying he's town

you both are buddying each other in a really off way.

have you done anything to contribute?
I have seen you lurking a lot today

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why are you focusing on me when tardis did the same thing I did?

>ya I haven't contributed but what have u????
>the nub Tardis hasn't posted in depth reads why should I???? actually I think Tardis did post reads lmao, correct me if I'm wrong

I can do much better ones when the post links go up but'

Town
Aron- obvious reasons


Daniel- I don't think scum would make the counter for dolby
Toad- That one post on sarasa was very good
Curry- only a few posts, but they are good in content and I am a fan of them

????
Tardis2016- I honestly have no idea

null on everyone else so far

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i think you have the chronology mixed up I said i town read no one before I said i town read curry.
by biggest town read (besides aron) is probably toad bc of the sarasa post


>townreads Daniel for a counter
>townreads Toad for a post on Sarasa
>hesitant to townread Xine for lynching Inkling

I know you're a stronger player than this, Cory...

I thought Cory's reaction during the beginning of Night was extremely weird, like literally everything about what Cory said was weird.

um excuse me i thought this was pluarity

That's the first thing out of your mouth when scum was lynched D1?

but that's not what pluarity lynch is
thats majority lynch

why do you care so much. it almost feels like he wanted Alexi lynched yesterday, I mean I did too, but I still did not vote for her because I wasn't very sure

no, I'm upset that majority was reached before i got back because it clearly says pluarity lynch
now people are gonna scum read me like
"boop a doop a boop why was cory not there voting for inkling? hes obvious scum"

there are a lot of people that didn't vote or voted for Alexi, not just you. why are you so worried about what people are thinking if it's something so little as voting?

Since inkling is both a mafia goon and a new player. I don't think she bussed anyone, I think her team bussed her.

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So I'm not clearing xine because of that. She could have easily bussed her. Unlikely and risky? Sure, but it's far from impossible.

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@Sarasakat, what do you think about how Cadberry is playing? Does it fit their meta?

this is so weird

yes, don't townlock Xine. but if you honestly believe that was a bus, with the interactions they had together, with how in depth the case she made on Inkling was, then you're reaching. and Xine had a point where she said it's weird how Cory townread Daniel for making a timeclock but doesn't seem like he trusts Xine very much.

I think the greatest possibility is cadberry. And someone else more experienced.

contradicts what you said. You said you don't think inkling bussed anyone, WHEN INKLING CALLED CADBERRY SCUM. I'm thinking you just said it because you know your reads previously in the game weren't strong enough for you to go after Xine, if you went after Xine for lynching scum but and townread several others for weak reasoning then you'll definitely look awful. so instead you go for ez target, like Cadberry, who's new (pretty sure this is their first game) and literally doesn't even know the definition of bussing.

Daniel how do you actually townread this?

anyway now I'll respond to your read

Not a fan of people telling PRs what to do out in the open. If he actually takes your advice, it?s just telling the scum team on how to plan their actions. I think it?s best for the PRs to do what they think is best.

I laid out his choices and told him the possibilities and what I would do personally. he's a nub, I didn't know


Pretty aggressive thing to say here. It seems like you?re trying to intimidate people to not mess with Aron, but also not mess with you. Would like to note that a Tae and a couple of other people still questioned the doc claim and you didn?t do anything to them, all you said is that we?re not lynching them. All bark but no bite?

thx I'm trying to change my playstyle
yeah I wanted to make it clear as day that we weren't lynching Aron and also that anyone that kept pressing it was scum. And what do you know, that's how we found scum D1.

it's fine to question their claim. it's fine to not believe anything Aron says. my point is if you're trying to lynch a doc claim, that's scummy af. and oh look, that's what Inkling tried to do. I feel like I'm repeating myself sooooo much here and I'm pretty sure Xine and others have said the same thing. Aronthaer will die soon, and if he doesn't then we'll know.

I saw the case on Alexi, and since you were pretty keen on an Alexi lynch, I?m pretty sure one is scum while the other is town. So depending on which one of you flips if you died, I?ll see what to think next. Scum leaning.

Are you saying you want to lynch one of us to test that? How do you know that we aren't both town? even I was hesitant about Alexi, she responded with decently valid points, and it wasn't really worth losing her D1 to vote for her. so I didn't even vote for her. but my real question is: how come you think Cory V. Aron is town v. town but not Alexi v. me?? What makes you scumread us over scumreading Cory? I thought most intense arguments are town v. town, Daniel? If ANYTHING, Cory is scum over me and Alexi combined. So your reads on us (me, Alexi, Cory) make no sense. Do explain, I'd love to hear.

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also I just woke up so ya I still managed to made mistakes in that post too but I'm too lazy to fix it so ur all just gonna have to deal with it :^)
 
Yo Daniel, what was with the wishy washy read of inkling?

Also, what was this:
Daniel's read of Tardis said:
Is this a soft claim?
Why the hell would you ask that? I call blue hunting.

I'm better now so I'll reply in a sec but I like meow's analysis on this. I don't like Daniel, I don't like Cory, and I think both of them are scum.
 
You and Alexi got in a civil debate about her behavior, I didn't say I wang to lynch you guys as a test, I'm saying if one of you were to flip town or scum/town it would probably say what the other is. Cory and Aron on the other hand, got into a pointless fight in how Aron was dumb for claiming. Heated fights from what I've seen, are usually done by town vs town. There's no real point in beating a player who already claimed as scum. This kinda ego dumb play from Cory fits in from previous games I've been him do here and offsite. So I'm essentially meta TRing him. Cory is usually more reserved as scum, but as town he usually blurts whatever.

I didn't post my reads because on the first day, there was a lot of inactivity from certain players and I wanted to give them time to post before I made my reads. Because when I do my reads, I like doing detailed ones on each player. The 2nd day of D1 I was gone the whole day and only checked in on my phone(my friends needed help so I was with her until very late). I got home like 2 hours before the deadline and while I was typing my scum reads at least so I could make the deadline and post my other reads later, inklings majority was reached. So I decided that I might as well have just made all the reads together. Sorry for that inactivity, it was just bad IRL timing.

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Yo Daniel, what was with the wishy washy read of inkling?

Also, what was this:
Why the hell would you ask that? I call blue hunting.

I'm better now so I'll reply in a sec but I like meow's analysis on this. I don't like Daniel, I don't like Cory, and I think both of them are scum.

The read on Inkling was pretty hasty since I wasn't home. I didn't want to vote for him immediately, but I from what I quickly read, i wasn't against it. So I was just okay with it, not for or against it. I probably would have voted for him, but the majority was reached early and I was still typing my reads.

I wanted to know if he was actually claiming or just asking a question. It seemed like he was just soft claiming blue by asking that out of nowhere. Did no one else pay attention to that?
 
@daniel no one said anything bc we aren't calling out blues for mafia to shoot. You wondering if it's a claim or not is pretty scummy.
 
@daniel no one said anything bc we aren't calling out blues for mafia to shoot. You wondering if it's a claim or not is pretty scummy.

That was just a stupid move on my part then sorry. What would be the point of me asking that question if I was scum?
 
I wanted to know if he was actually claiming or just asking a question. It seemed like he was just soft claiming blue by asking that out of nowhere. Did no one else pay attention to that?

Pretty sure we all did but nobody brought it to attention cause that is PR hunting...

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oh sorry. didnt refresh page and see comments before
 
How long till night ends ? i was gonna make a post close to deadline as to not help influence mafia actions but also in time to help town, incase i die N1 again (thanks Ness).

-but now my sister wants me to go to the festival/ carnival we have in town today and i don't know if im gonna be able to find time.
 
I'll answer the stuff I didn't answer before.

Daniel said:
Why? Cory could easily try to appear town and say that as scum, yet you just clear him here...
I didn't clear Cory for it. I said I thought it was a townie thing for him to do. But literally anything can be perceived as scummy or townie. Literally anything. We have to go with what the best probability is.

Daniel said:
Seems pretty weird to just agree with what Cory says when he's town reading you. This post seems pretty off.
No, I was explaining what meta was. If you're talking about me agreeing with his meta analysis, then ok? I'm sorry I'm slightly aware of my meta?

Daniel said:
So being secretive and holding back info is town? I thought it was the exact opposite. Seems like you're not bothering to listen to reason why Aron would be lying.
Lying about what? But have you read the guy's tone? It was pure as hell.

Daniel said:
Didn't you say Cory was town for saying he wanted a villa core? What have you really contributed that made you more of a contributor than Cory?
My read was pretty obviously changing at that point. You failed to mention a page later (on 50 posts per page), I wrote my new read on Cory, which was neutral/slight scum. And that question in of itself wasn't implying I heavily scumread him. I was pointing out his hypocrisy. And at that point in the game, at least I was actively engaged in the chat and trying to make heads and tails of Aron's claim. Cory had done literally jack ****.

Daniel said:
The bolded part is really weird too.
It was meant to be motivational. People were like "ehh we don't know who to lynch".

Daniel said:
Also, why just Kevinnn for being inactive? Why not Qwerty/Inkling/Llamas for being inactive too?
Did you read the read itself? I was saying Kevinn wasn't contributing in the posts he did make.

Daniel said:
What? Anyone would literally get online find out about the doc claim and say that. Did you also not consider that statement being fabricated? Why clear him for saying that?
Let's be honest - any mafian would go to their scumchat before going to thread to see if they needed to catch up on any plans scum had been hatching. The would have heard the Doc claim there.

The statement could be fabricated, but I don't think Ness would be the kind to fabricate derp clears. Therefore, I'm willing to trust him on it. Fight me.

Everything else I responded to :)
 
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