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[toadsworthy]

right, and his theory was mentioned after I said vig wouldn't shoot entropy. I honestly didn't even think of his theory until he pointed it out.

nah I don't think so. unless cultists get actions but I don't think they do.

OK looking at what you and Eleanor are saying, and thinking in terms of what is most likely to have happened.
The thing to me that seems most likely is that a vig would go and shoot Tom. agreed? he had high sus end of day 1, and should've died if we had people around. But Entropy died.... and that could only be done if there is a bus driver, which were sure there is one. I have a great idea of who I believe to be this bus driver, but its only a hunch I'm gonna look into later. and I think this bus driver should stop focusing on Tom lol....

Not saying this is FOR SURE what happened... but it seems like a more rational thing than when I first thought about it

 

[Chrystina]

I'm saying that it shouldn't be ruled out. Even if it is an SK kill, that doesn't clear you imo.

my wincon mentions eliminating all hostile third parties. with that and an entropy kill, yea I'm gonna assume SK. but obviously if that's your only reasoning for voting me, which is really weak, I've said what I've said in my defense and I'll leave it at that.

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OK looking at what you and Eleanor are saying, and thinking in terms of what is most likely to have happened.
The thing to me that seems most likely is that a vig would go and shoot Tom. agreed? he had high sus end of day 1, and should've died if we had people around. But Entropy died.... and that could only be done if there is a bus driver, which were sure there is one. I have a great idea of who I believe to be this bus driver, but its only a hunch I'm gonna look into later. and I think this bus driver should stop focusing on Tom lol....

Not saying this is FOR SURE what happened... but it seems like a more rational thing than when I first thought about it

right, it's possible. I'm not ruling it out.

 

[Iwaseleanor]

OK looking at what you and Eleanor are saying, and thinking in terms of what is most likely to have happened.
The thing to me that seems most likely is that a vig would go and shoot Tom. agreed? he had high sus end of day 1, and should've died if we had people around. But Entropy died.... and that could only be done if there is a bus driver, which were sure there is one. I have a great idea of who I believe to be this bus driver, but its only a hunch I'm gonna look into later. and I think this bus driver should stop focusing on Tom lol....

Not saying this is FOR SURE what happened... but it seems like a more rational thing than when I first thought about it

I'm curious as to who you think it is...
Reading through the convo to see

 

[PandaDarling]

@Panda - Care to explain the 180? Why not just explain why you being SK is flawed, instead of the excessive emotion and personal comments, the OMGUS... Basically what I'm saying is I reaction tested you, and definitely got a hell of a reaction. Maybe my scum read on you will go to a null if you push for the Tom lynch you've been mentioning since n1, or are you going to lead my lynch? If so, be my guest.

@Chrystina The 180 ? Of sussing you in pervious games to now ? New game trying to grow and be a better player instead of just tunneling the same person for little to no reason, trying to learn how to read you better... And I did explain why me being SK is flawed, but you took it as too personal, but pretty much what I was saying is I'm not stupid enough to kill the one person that's going after me. And of course I'm for a Tom lynch, I'm still not happy with Wise and others avoiding the game when they left us with a big question mark but at this point they might just get modkilled so Tom is our best candidate atm.

 

[Chrystina]

@Chrystina The 180 ? Of sussing you in pervious games to now ? New game trying to grow and be a better player instead of just tunneling the same person for little to no reason, trying to learn how to read you better... And I did explain why me being SK is flawed, but you took it as too personal, but pretty much what I was saying is I'm not stupid enough to kill the one person that's going after me. And of course I'm for a Tom lynch, I'm still not happy with Wise and others avoiding the game when they left us with a big question mark but at this point they might just get modkilled so Tom is our best candidate atm.

No, the 180 in this game. I must have misread your post though, I thought you were scum leaning me for accusing you of SK.

But did you read my post here ? Surely Tom can't be cult. SK? Probably. But.. I don't want to risk a d1 repeat.

 

[PandaDarling]

OK looking at what you and Eleanor are saying, and thinking in terms of what is most likely to have happened.
The thing to me that seems most likely is that a vig would go and shoot Tom. agreed? he had high sus end of day 1, and should've died if we had people around. But Entropy died.... and that could only be done if there is a bus driver, which were sure there is one. I have a great idea of who I believe to be this bus driver, but its only a hunch I'm gonna look into later. and I think this bus driver should stop focusing on Tom lol....

Not saying this is FOR SURE what happened... but it seems like a more rational thing than when I first thought about it

IF this is what happened then it would seem to me that the Bus Driver is most likely a inexperienced player... If they couldn't see that Tom might be targeted by Vig and switched Tom and Entropy then it would seem to me that they don't understand what's going on completely.

Q: not saying they should, just wondering if at this point if it was a 1-Shot Vig that targeted Tom, do you think they should say so or not ? Maybe so we can clear it up, I can't decide if it would help us clarify, work things out and move on or if it's better to keep it concealed.

 

[toadsworthy]

IF this is what happened then it would seem to me that the Bus Driver is most likely a inexperienced player... If they couldn't see that Tom might be targeted by Vig and switched Tom and Entropy then it would seem to me that they don't understand what's going on completely.

Q: not saying they should, just wondering if at this point if it was a 1-Shot Vig that targeted Tom, do you think they should say so or not ? Maybe so we can clear it up, I can't decide if it would help us clarify, work things out and move on or if it's better to keep it concealed.

lol that kinda goes with my hunch for suspected bus driver... and I am all for 1-shot vigs coming forward (because I was one and did it) but other people.... Abe.... are opposed to it I know. However I feel like in this case it would be even more beneficial to know because of this bus madness. However, getting that information doesn't really change what has and what will happen it just kinda fulfills our want to know what fully happened.

 

[Chrystina]

@Panda - no I don't believe it's a good idea. I understand if they were 1 shot, then essentially they're a townie, but in a cult game - they could easily be cult by next night phase. It might help us figure out the whole SK x vig thing, but ... eh. yeah I'm leaning towards no but it is my first cult game so I could be wrong.


Anyways I was leaning on trusting tae in his scum read towards toad cause of tone, but the following explanation isn't very convincing.. so I'm hoping tae can maybe elaborate more on his reads or something. Cause I'm not comfortable voting for Tom and right now my reads are all over the place. Will be looking more into Fleshy & Seroja though.
Duck, Athena, Tasuot, & Wisemimir realllly need to start posting more. Wise and Tasu will be modkilled if they don't vote, and I really hope they dedicate some time to sit down and read through this game and explain their vote. That with Crys needing a replacement, idk starting to lose hope tbh.

 

[PandaDarling]

lol that kinda goes with my hunch for suspected bus driver... and I am all for 1-shot vigs coming forward (because I was one and did it) but other people.... Abe.... are opposed to it I know. However I feel like in this case it would be even more beneficial to know because of this bus madness. However, getting that information doesn't really change what has and what will happen it just kinda fulfills our want to know what fully happened.

True, and for me not understanding what happened drives me crazy and makes it hard for me to move forward and focus on other stuff. Smh... Also another thing that's been on my mind is as long as the Cult Learder is alive, people are going to continue to be culted, and not only is there a chance of the scum team to have fake claims but also the newly converted people will have their original roles to claim, so I don't think it's gonna help us much when someone claims to save themselves before a lynching, the way it does normally when it's town vs. mafia. (Sorry if this is obvious, my first cult game, kinda thinking aloud)

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@Panda - no I don't believe it's a good idea. I understand if they were 1 shot, then essentially they're a townie, but in a cult game - they could easily be cult by next night phase. It might help us figure out the whole SK x vig thing, but ... eh. yeah I'm leaning towards no but it is my first cult game so I could be wrong.


Anyways I was leaning on trusting tae in his scum read towards toad cause of tone, but the following explanation isn't very convincing.. so I'm hoping tae can maybe elaborate more on his reads or something. Cause I'm not comfortable voting for Tom and right now my reads are all over the place. Will be looking more into Fleshy & Seroja though.
Duck, Athena, Tasuot, & Wisemimir realllly need to start posting more. Wise and Tasu will be modkilled if they don't vote, and I really hope they dedicate some time to sit down and read through this game and explain their vote. That with Crys needing a replacement, idk starting to lose hope tbh.

Dont lose hope !!!! Usually when a replacement comes in they are pretty helpful, hopefully Crys is town aligned and the replacement will help us with a fresh view of what's happened so far.

 

[toadsworthy]

@Panda - no I don't believe it's a good idea. I understand if they were 1 shot, then essentially they're a townie, but in a cult game - they could easily be cult by next night phase. It might help us figure out the whole SK x vig thing, but ... eh. yeah I'm leaning towards no but it is my first cult game so I could be wrong.


Anyways I was leaning on trusting tae in his scum read towards toad cause of tone, but the following explanation isn't very convincing.. so I'm hoping tae can maybe elaborate more on his reads or something. Cause I'm not comfortable voting for Tom and right now my reads are all over the place. Will be looking more into Fleshy & Seroja though.
Duck, Athena, Tasuot, & Wisemimir realllly need to start posting more. Wise and Tasu will be modkilled if they don't vote, and I really hope they dedicate some time to sit down and read through this game and explain their vote. That with Crys needing a replacement, idk starting to lose hope tbh.

since when does a convincing tone but crap explanation mean I am scum... I know I look terrible rn, but how many others times have I been like that and turned out to be town too. Just because Tae is posting very authoritatively should not mean it had more validation to it. Also refreshed today, I'm trying to have better discussions rather than bad, rude, mean, aggressive reaction testing

 

[Fleshy]

(I'd just like to apologise for not being particularly active, I have an exam on Wednesday and I mis-judged the amount of time I'd have spare to play..)

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Q: not saying they should, just wondering if at this point if it was a 1-Shot Vig that targeted Tom, do you think they should say so or not ? Maybe so we can clear it up, I can't decide if it would help us clarify, work things out and move on or if it's better to keep it concealed.

I don't know how much of a good idea it is for the vig to come forward (if there is one), I guess they'd be safe for the time being as they're the only one with KP right now and wouldn't be able to be culted (?) though, but I'm sure they'd die as soon as the cult gain KP, and then that's both town aligned roles with KP gone, if we manage to lynch CL that is. I might have misunderstood something as I'm not very familiar with cult games at all, but still, I'm not sure.

 

[Iwaseleanor]

I think Athena may have 'forgot about this website' considering she's been inactive.
Anybody on Azuriland able to remind her?

 

[Fleshy]

I think Athena may have 'forgot about this website' considering she's been inactive.
Anybody on Azuriland able to remind her?

The same with Wise (he's also been inactive) he's on Azuriland too, right?

 

[Curry]

I think Athena may have 'forgot about this website' considering she's been inactive.
Anybody on Azuriland able to remind her?

I go on there daily, I'll remind them if I see them online next time I get on. Professor_Godot is Wise, Meloetta is Athena, and GLaDOS is Duck if someone can do it before I get home.

Hopefully will have more opinions in a few. May take a bit while on mobile.

 

[Endless]

If there is a 1-shot vigilante, having them claim is actually a GREAT idea. The reason being the following:
"Clears" don't properly work in a cult game. Just because someone can prove he was once town doesn't mean they're still town. Hence, a clear is a lot less useful than in other games.

And it would aid our reads immensely if we were to discover A) whether or not Tom was the night kill target B) That there isn't an SK in the game (as no sk in their right mind claims 1-shot vig.)

Chrys, I'm curious, why would day be coming to a close mean I should stop trying to Lynch Tom? I might be missing something but last I checked this lynch is the currently most well-backed lynch.

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EBWOP: this only applies if the 1-shot vigilante shot last night. If you still have your shot don't claim.

 

[Chrystina]

If there is a 1-shot vigilante, having them claim is actually a GREAT idea. The reason being the following:
"Clears" don't properly work in a cult game. Just because someone can prove he was once town doesn't mean they're still town. Hence, a clear is a lot less useful than in other games.

And it would aid our reads immensely if we were to discover A) whether or not Tom was the night kill target B) That there isn't an SK in the game (as no sk in their right mind claims 1-shot vig.)

Chrys, I'm curious, why would day be coming to a close mean I should stop trying to Lynch Tom? I might be missing something but last I checked this lynch is the currently most well-backed lynch.

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EBWOP: this only applies if the 1-shot vigilante shot last night. If you still have your shot don't claim.

I think you are missing something.. In that same post. In all the games I've played, only players with actions receive notifications about being switched/driven/ etc etc. Because of this I don't think he's cult, at all. So, are you saying you're that confident Tom is an SK? (I might have missed this, but I'm getting the impression you think he's cult).

 

[Curry]

Tom I saw you haven't been online today, but when you do I would like to remind you to please address my questions and the votes on you. A few new ones for you:
Depending on your answer to my question, if you were in fact the target of the bus driver, do you find it likely you were switched with entropy and that is why she died? If the answer is yes that means you had to have been shot at, and what are your thoughts on being a target of a shooting night action?

Boss texted me and changed my schedule tomorrow to 9:30 am to 10 pm. I'll be able to check in on my breaks but no promises on being here EoD. As such I will likely place my vote today and post a reads list before I go to sleep.

 

[tae]

if tom is SK. pls kill me dad.

im on mobile gonna open my laptop here in a minute.

 

[Heyden]

these azurilland players need 2 get a grip xoxo

 

[PandaDarling]

@Menchie care to explain your vote on Toad ? And do you have thoughts on anything else ?