Mafia Miraculous Ladybug Cultists [Congrats Cult!]
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toadsworthy
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I see what you are talking about.... But at that point I was explaining what I was doing when I got into with entropy. Not giving reads on her
toadsworthy
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Right above that I talk about tom and crys who I had already given reads about. It was a different topic there
Wow so many things happened. It's gonna take a while for me to reevaluate my reads on some of you. I'll work on my analysis now which will take hours, so don't hold your breath (plus we have Hajj celebration tomorrow so there's a lot of preparations to be done today). Anyway I just want tae and Chrys to please reevaluate your reads on Toads because he's so painfully town it's impossible to see him as cult.
@tae, other than his tone and overall messiness, what else can you find on him? Were there any contradictions/discrepancies in his reads/posts? Unless you can find something more solid on him I won't be voting him.
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@tae, other than his tone and overall messiness, what else can you find on him? Were there any contradictions/discrepancies in his reads/posts? Unless you can find something more solid on him I won't be voting him.
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toadsworthy
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I literally just think you are acting laughable now. idgaf if I get lynched, but don't let it be because you listened to this non-credible crap. Posts and attitudes like this are why I got pissed in the first place, but I wouldn't expect you to have read it because you clearly aren't paying attention to the thread or care enough to say anything past 5-word poisonous posts about me. You made a post about me, I responded about how you basically were completely wrong by using exaggerations of things I had done, if you aren't even gonna try to act like you read it or do a dignified response, you shouldn't be here.
And you are gonna look so stupid when I flip town
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sorry but I have no more tolerance for just blatant immaturity and rampant inactivity in this game... for me it just makes trying to accomplish anything impossible. If you wanna lynch me for being a sourpuss about it ok, I don't blame you for it because I know it looks scummy as hell, and I'm a decent enough player to admit it and my faults this game. But I've endured the brunt of it if you look back and I'm basically done. Call me when the sheep come in from the pasture to lynch my butt 30 minutes before end of day. I'll claim, we can cry about it, and do absolutely nothing just like last time.
Chrystina
07.09 💜
I'm just seeing it more and more likely that toads is indeed cult. I advise you all to read up on tae's meta and then read his last couple posts in this game and I swear what he's saying is genuine.
As for toads, I already mentioned I was reading him wrong. Now, I believe he was probably culted n0. During n0 a lot of the attention was on toads, but everyone kept defending him (myself included) that this is typical emotional town toads. It'd be pretty smart for the CL to cult him, given that he keeps up with his emotional behaviour. (And with delayed conversion, remember he wouldn't have known he was in the cult until n1). Anyways, after ISOing his posts for hours, and going from n0 -> n1 there is a change in his posts. They're less assertive, he has more outbursts, and even derails the thread by going after entropy (which had no real value of an argument).
That ^ all pretty much explains my vote on toadsworthy.
As for toads, I already mentioned I was reading him wrong. Now, I believe he was probably culted n0. During n0 a lot of the attention was on toads, but everyone kept defending him (myself included) that this is typical emotional town toads. It'd be pretty smart for the CL to cult him, given that he keeps up with his emotional behaviour. (And with delayed conversion, remember he wouldn't have known he was in the cult until n1). Anyways, after ISOing his posts for hours, and going from n0 -> n1 there is a change in his posts. They're less assertive, he has more outbursts, and even derails the thread by going after entropy (which had no real value of an argument).
That ^ all pretty much explains my vote on toadsworthy.
I'd lynch if only because you're confident in something, which you've never been before so it's enough of a change in behavior to even consider lynching you.
toadsworthy
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I'm fairly confident in the town reads I made a while back, even on the people who are sus of me. Someone pointed out I had a lot of town reads, but thats because theres only about 3 people who actually are cult right now. Halfway certain 1-2 of the people who are in the cult are probably unresponsive on this thread. Thats how it always turns out to be anyway.... Seroja sticks out as being scummy, I will stick by that since she seems to have excuses (even if they are legit excuses) and no content.
Reads, unfortunately these won't be nearly as detailed as I would like them to be, but I said I'd do it so I'm doing it.
1) Heyden - I'll be honest, I have no idea how to read Heyden right now since he started this game whack, then started trying and making thoughtful posts, then is back to one liner jokes. The switches in behavior throughout the game is off putting but not enough for me to think scum.
2) Endless (AKA Abe) - Endless has not given me town vibes at all. Just because he always "grinds content no matter what his faction is," I'm not seeing town and if I had more time I'd cover it more in depth.
3) Mogyay (AKA Mog) - While I've never seen Mog play town before, she was very aggressive and emotional arguably in A Game of Mafia where she was scum and without iso'ing I'm not getting that same feel. However, her second reads post is mostly her saying "null" on every person...and the indecisiveness could be something to look at. Granted, several of those players had not contributed much at the current point in the game...but it's something to note.
Tom - His change in tone is what's most concerning to me to be honest for the Tom voters. He's a rational guy so I can see him admitting that he knows he was a good shot candidate, but it's the fact that he went from what appeared to be at a minimum somewhat caring of the game, to acting like he doesn't wanna be here at all. That change behavior makes me think he got culted, at the very least it's very off putting. If Tom is scum, I'm willing to bet it's off culting. Prior to Day 2 I did not scum read Tom.
5) Athena Cykes (AKA Meloetta) - Tbh I don't have much to say. Mage gave an "idc I'm bored" attitude during Song of Town and Mafia, then showed up at like Day 3 or so when the game was smaller to play. So it doesn't surprise me as a not posting thing, it does concern me as a player in a game about information that she's posting none. She hasn't logged in to TBT in two days either though. >.<
6) Duck (AKA Pokequeen, Queenie) - Haven't done an iso and don't know what to think right now. This is my last read (didn't so these all in order) and I just can't articulate atm. Will expand on reads that need them late tomorrow or early Day 3 if I'm alive.
8) Toadsworthy (AKA Toads) - Can see both sides. Reasoning for both sides can be strong and weak based on who is saying them. Saying this now though. Toads is someone I'd like to do a real thorough analysis on before deciding one way or the other. People who come to Toads defense saying "Dis is emotional Toads, dats Toads town meta!" make me raise an eyebrow. Just meta is not a good reason for reading someone.
11) cpu (AKA Crys) - Null until we get a replacement. Crys has only shown up once and there wasn't much to go off of.
13) PandaDarling (AKA Panda) - Not convinced Panda is scum. I trust entropy as a great player though and her reads are very accurate usually, plus Endless defending her and Endless being a scum read for me doesn't help. However, I see genuineness in Panda's posts and could believe her being town with how she's handled herself. I can see both sides of the argument, 50/50 for now.
14) taesaek (AKA Tae) - I definitely can feel some doubts in my mind of Tae but he's pushing a Toads lynch which I can partially agree with, and seems to be Tae the cheese grater (best role ever). There's uncertainty in my mind moreso here than full town leans though which is why there is gray.
15) Fleshy - Pretty simple. I like his posts and he went with some of the same points I did. I would prefer to iso but off memory he is a town lean.
16) Seroja - I'll be completely honest I haven't analyzed Seroja enough to make a full opinion on her. However, her argument with toad seems genuine and I understand a lack of motivation but the more time that goes on and the less she contributes (time to content, not that she's doing less) can make this quickly a sus read.
17) Iwaseleanor - Answered my questions and made a few more posts. Not a lot to say anymore on them until I analyze mmore. Gray for now.
18) Menchie - I appreciate your effort last real world night! Please keep that up because your helpfulness can only go up from here! However, nothing to say otherwise.
19) amanda1983 - You've shown real effort for the game s far as a first time player and I admire it as many have said! You're pushing for answers from people and in general having a pro town attitude I think.
20) Wisemimir (AKA Wise, Godot) - Pretty much given up on Wise even coming back...I know he voted yesterday but he will probably be mod killed for inactivity. At this point I don't see him caring especially when he hasn't even logged on and I find it hard to believe he's cult. There's no evidence to town read though.
21) Tasuot - Nothing to say with so little content.
I realize there's a lot of gray here (something I even asked Tae about) but Overwatch took more of my time than I thought it would and I need to sleep so I didn't get the amount of analyzing I would've liked done. If I had more time there would be less gray. Vote will be going on Endless. If I get a break in time to read and vote change depending on how day develops tomorrow while I'm at work, if I'm convinced the vote may change but this is my current vote.
1) Heyden - I'll be honest, I have no idea how to read Heyden right now since he started this game whack, then started trying and making thoughtful posts, then is back to one liner jokes. The switches in behavior throughout the game is off putting but not enough for me to think scum.
2) Endless (AKA Abe) - Endless has not given me town vibes at all. Just because he always "grinds content no matter what his faction is," I'm not seeing town and if I had more time I'd cover it more in depth.
3) Mogyay (AKA Mog) - While I've never seen Mog play town before, she was very aggressive and emotional arguably in A Game of Mafia where she was scum and without iso'ing I'm not getting that same feel. However, her second reads post is mostly her saying "null" on every person...and the indecisiveness could be something to look at. Granted, several of those players had not contributed much at the current point in the game...but it's something to note.
Tom - His change in tone is what's most concerning to me to be honest for the Tom voters. He's a rational guy so I can see him admitting that he knows he was a good shot candidate, but it's the fact that he went from what appeared to be at a minimum somewhat caring of the game, to acting like he doesn't wanna be here at all. That change behavior makes me think he got culted, at the very least it's very off putting. If Tom is scum, I'm willing to bet it's off culting. Prior to Day 2 I did not scum read Tom.
5) Athena Cykes (AKA Meloetta) - Tbh I don't have much to say. Mage gave an "idc I'm bored" attitude during Song of Town and Mafia, then showed up at like Day 3 or so when the game was smaller to play. So it doesn't surprise me as a not posting thing, it does concern me as a player in a game about information that she's posting none. She hasn't logged in to TBT in two days either though. >.<
6) Duck (AKA Pokequeen, Queenie) - Haven't done an iso and don't know what to think right now. This is my last read (didn't so these all in order) and I just can't articulate atm. Will expand on reads that need them late tomorrow or early Day 3 if I'm alive.
8) Toadsworthy (AKA Toads) - Can see both sides. Reasoning for both sides can be strong and weak based on who is saying them. Saying this now though. Toads is someone I'd like to do a real thorough analysis on before deciding one way or the other. People who come to Toads defense saying "Dis is emotional Toads, dats Toads town meta!" make me raise an eyebrow. Just meta is not a good reason for reading someone.
11) cpu (AKA Crys) - Null until we get a replacement. Crys has only shown up once and there wasn't much to go off of.
13) PandaDarling (AKA Panda) - Not convinced Panda is scum. I trust entropy as a great player though and her reads are very accurate usually, plus Endless defending her and Endless being a scum read for me doesn't help. However, I see genuineness in Panda's posts and could believe her being town with how she's handled herself. I can see both sides of the argument, 50/50 for now.
14) taesaek (AKA Tae) - I definitely can feel some doubts in my mind of Tae but he's pushing a Toads lynch which I can partially agree with, and seems to be Tae the cheese grater (best role ever). There's uncertainty in my mind moreso here than full town leans though which is why there is gray.
15) Fleshy - Pretty simple. I like his posts and he went with some of the same points I did. I would prefer to iso but off memory he is a town lean.
16) Seroja - I'll be completely honest I haven't analyzed Seroja enough to make a full opinion on her. However, her argument with toad seems genuine and I understand a lack of motivation but the more time that goes on and the less she contributes (time to content, not that she's doing less) can make this quickly a sus read.
17) Iwaseleanor - Answered my questions and made a few more posts. Not a lot to say anymore on them until I analyze mmore. Gray for now.
18) Menchie - I appreciate your effort last real world night! Please keep that up because your helpfulness can only go up from here! However, nothing to say otherwise.
19) amanda1983 - You've shown real effort for the game s far as a first time player and I admire it as many have said! You're pushing for answers from people and in general having a pro town attitude I think.
20) Wisemimir (AKA Wise, Godot) - Pretty much given up on Wise even coming back...I know he voted yesterday but he will probably be mod killed for inactivity. At this point I don't see him caring especially when he hasn't even logged on and I find it hard to believe he's cult. There's no evidence to town read though.
21) Tasuot - Nothing to say with so little content.
I realize there's a lot of gray here (something I even asked Tae about) but Overwatch took more of my time than I thought it would and I need to sleep so I didn't get the amount of analyzing I would've liked done. If I had more time there would be less gray. Vote will be going on Endless. If I get a break in time to read and vote change depending on how day develops tomorrow while I'm at work, if I'm convinced the vote may change but this is my current vote.
I'll carriage smash the toad push to the side when I'm done with this homework assignment.
Starting to see what Duck was saying about curry not really saying anything at all.
He has 2 townreads, neither of which are new reads.
Then he has 2 scumreads, one of which is the one I'm pushing, and the other is me. The reason he's listed me as cult is quite literally (and I **** you not) "I'm not really seeing town from him".
Convincing.
And the remaining 14 players are all listed as null.
Starting to see what Duck was saying about curry not really saying anything at all.
He has 2 townreads, neither of which are new reads.
Then he has 2 scumreads, one of which is the one I'm pushing, and the other is me. The reason he's listed me as cult is quite literally (and I **** you not) "I'm not really seeing town from him".
Convincing.
And the remaining 14 players are all listed as null.
toadsworthy
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well you are drastically mistaken... the odds of your specific story coming true are very tiny. and if I was culted N1 that means I would've been picked to be culted N0 (because its a delayed conversion set up that is detailed in the OP). That makes your reasoning fall apart about me being picked for my emotional meta, because I wasn't even acting emotional until day 1 started. Just because you say you ISO-ed for hours doesn't mean its actually true. Please elucidate on this magical change. And if I had been culted I probably would've just shut up, because clearly from micro mafia I realize the less I talk the more conspicuous I am.
((it's actually anxiety and failure to cope that makes me not wanna be here tbh))
toadsworthy
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so smug, well, get ready to learn about disappointment, because I'm town. Just fed up with bs
but really guys, I'm gonna flip town and you're gonna be worse off.... I think you should take the extra time to discus who really is cult once I'm dead
Chrystina
07.09 💜
read my post again... I know it's delayed conversion, that's why I said you probably got culted n0 and you found out n1.
but sure np i already gathered a bunch of quotes in a word doc. i'll explain on it all sometime tmrw.
toadsworthy
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yeah all the attention I drew by yelling at newbies for making reads off grammar... yeah that sounds like the perfect person to recruit
let me know when I should claim, I'd rather not have another Daniel situation happen
Toads omg I told you to be less emotional. Come on, I'm making my reads now please don't do anything rash. We still have plenty of time to figure out a suspect. I don't want you lynched.
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No pls don't claim yet. Calm down pls. Take some time off the thread and walk it out.
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No pls don't claim yet. Calm down pls. Take some time off the thread and walk it out.
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