Mafia Monster's Ball Mafia [Game Thread - Endgame, Town Wins!]]

Wait I should have read more carefully, this is flipless, that changes everything, because being the first groups is not really relevant if mafia lose a member, because the game will have 9 players and the poe will be too big to even matter and the game starts again.

hmmmm this is going to be harder than I thought.
 
betsy i don’t has done much to pull me in either direction so she’s still null. i’d like to hear more of what she has to say given she’s so far said a lot of “i don’t trust anyone/know how to reas anyone” (which i can see given she’s only played with me but i think she could meta read me better at this point)

Pfft. Sorry to say, I still can't meta read you. It's what got me last time. This time around, I'm trying to point out things I see as off, but not putting anyone in firm town/maf yet because that's a mistake I've made too many times.

On reading you- You're good at sneaky influence so I'm looking out for that. If I had to do a poe from town to sus, it'd be dan, ness, ace. For now. Actual voting, usually it ends up being the "most town" who is wolf, and actual town making mistakes because they aren't careful, so I'd vote dan.

Wait I should have read more carefully, this is flipless, that changes everything, because being the first groups is not really relevant if mafia lose a member, because the game will have 9 players and the poe will be too big to even matter and the game starts again.

hmmmm this is going to be harder than I thought.

Maybe not, though, esp if we know how many maf are left after rooms, (which hopefully we will). We can chart players by room. We know one maf per room, so use a room chart and keep track of it?
 
Maybe not, though, esp if we know how many maf are left after rooms, (which hopefully we will). We can chart players by room. We know one maf per room, so use a room chart and keep track of it?
This setup will be flipless. Upon a players death, their alignment will not be revealed. Alignments will be revealed once one of the teams have met their win condition and the game is over. This is the most experimental aspect of this game but it has been tested and run before, town has proven that they are able to win without the information from flips the last time this was done!

If all three mafia are not lynched during their cell phases the game will continue onward with day phases where everyone can post together and night phases where mafia may kill one townie of their choosing. Mafia will not have a quicktopic chat until after the cell phases are complete and if there are two or three mafia left standing.

Not really because flips will only happen after the game is over with one team winning, so right now we don't have associative. Let's say we killed the wolf here, that won't stop people from suss the rest of the cell.

Also no quick chat for wolves until normal cycles, so right now they are working on eliminating who they think would be the optimal kill of the group. I think your post was a town derp, which leads me to believe that the wolf is Dan/Ness, in your case I think you could add me to your PoE
 
Yeah nevermind on that chart thing. I tried it and it didn't work with the numbers. Flipless kind of sucks.
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Not really because flips will only happen after the game is over with one team winning, so right now we don't have associative. Let's say we killed the wolf here, that won't stop people from suss the rest of the cell.

Also no quick chat for wolves until normal cycles, so right now they are working on eliminating who they think would be the optimal kill of the group. I think your post was a town derp, which leads me to believe that the wolf is Dan/Ness, in your case I think you could add me to your PoE

Yeah I just worked that out. I was thinking once group game starts, town could agree to eliminate by room, which guarantees a maf elim, but the numbers didnt really work once I plotted it, because the whole room would need to go to be sure.
 
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Now Daniel voting Ness as a lol joke, could be a perfect way to place a vote later on without being suss, hmmm

Who is the wolf
Daniel 59%
Ness 40%
Betsy 1%
 
Now Daniel voting Ness as a lol joke, could be a perfect way to place a vote later on without being suss, hmmm

Who is the wolf
Daniel 59%
Ness 40%
Betsy 1%

I have dan as more town than ness, only because I'm not seeing sneaky dan. And nothing personal, but I don't trust you completely either. I don't have a solid vote right now.
 
I have dan as more town than ness, only because I'm not seeing sneaky dan. And nothing personal, but I don't trust you completely either. I don't have a solid vote right now.

I was not expecting you to trust me, don't worry.
 
because this setup is so unique, im going to not rely so much on meta here. i kinda feel ness to be the most town so far since I like his initial response to ace's game start
 
because this setup is so unique, im going to not rely so much on meta here. i kinda feel ness to be the most town so far since I like his initial response to ace's game start

I'm looking at iso now and a tip- put the SPACES in N e s s to avoid some frustration.
 
I'm here off and on (mostly on) til about 9. So sus me, ask me questions, etc. I'll be here til then to answer/try to help solve me, and probably asking questions as well.
 
All 3 of you are suspicious to me in different ways I literally hate this game

I don’t want to use my brain right now since driving a trailer take a lot of mental energy, I’m gonna eat a cheeseburger and play animal crossing
 
Well, I'm heading out for tonight. I looked thru iso and didn't see anything that stood out that I didn't already mention. (Really hard when its a single page for each, feels like nitpicking at small things).

In a bigger game, I try to look for sudden view changes without reason, so looked for that and didn't really see it. Only one view change I noticed - dan's view of ness changing from 'vague and quiet' to 'most town' - and it seems (to me) a natural, logical progression based on ness' posts. Some bit of tunneling going on (ace/dan), some pocketing attempts...it's just...not much to go on for a firm decision.

Will be back on tomorrow. Sidenote, did y'all make monsters?
 
I’m slowly warming up to the idea of betsy being town here. tonally, she feels pretty genuine, even if she doesn’t have much of a solid read on anyone. i still think ness’s response to ace were pretty good, so im at Ace being at the bottom for me. I’m open to discussion though since im more interested in solidifying my town reads given that this is flipless. i’m also hoping to take a more chill approach to this game since I cannot take a flipless setup that seriously if i’m honest. but geoni has said this is meant to be a chill game so i’m fine with that
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Will be back on tomorrow. Sidenote, did y'all make monsters?
i did but i kinda wanna wait for it to be officially revealed when geoni has it ready
 
I’m slowly warming up to the idea of betsy being town here. tonally, she feels pretty genuine, even if she doesn’t have much of a solid read on anyone. i still think ness’s response to ace were pretty good, so im at Ace being at the bottom for me. I’m open to discussion though since im more interested in solidifying my town reads given that this is flipless. i’m also hoping to take a more chill approach to this game since I cannot take a flipless setup that seriously if i’m honest. but geoni has said this is meant to be a chill game so i’m fine with that
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i did but i kinda wanna wait for it to be officially revealed when geoni has it ready

if you are not the wolf, you are wrong, so don't go into normal cycles clearing Ness and Betsy
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As expected you are going to vote all for me, not even surprised. lol
 
I got invited into the neighborhood, not telling by whom, but now voting me seems like a bad idea, since I can help in another room. imo
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If I go back to Mario mafia, ness is acting similar, and well that didn't end well.

Out of the 3 the one Im more scare of is Daniel, because if he is the wolf, once normal cycles start, people will follow. tbh
 
I’ve woken. And I’m voting for Ace.

To be candid I’m not convinced that Betsy is town yet since she’s more than capable of faking tone, just from what I know about her. I’m going to have to read the game where she was mafia because Betsy is smart lol.

Dan debateably has had some of the best posts so far, his latest one strikes me as kind of a (checks notes) “mind meld” since his thoughts on Betsy somewhat align with mine. It feels like his motivations are solving the game with his posts rather than pushing an agenda.

Ace I stand by that you’ve had the weirdest start. Your latest posts are just looking like your spitballing, trying to see what can stick. If you think Dan is mafia, give me a reason to vote with you other than just the statistics of it, that’s the only thing you’ve provided on why you wanted him dead lol. Unless you’re planning on switching to me off a 2 year old game then meh.

Also… not to be rude but I’m legit wondering why you were chosen for the neighborizor since we’re talking about you being the elimination this phase. I almost want to think that whoever had the neighborizor was trying to communicate with a mafia team mate. Not to meta game here but I’m curious if the mafia knows who their team mates are yet
 
Morning check in before I get to work.

I’ve woken. And I’m voting for Ace.

To be candid I’m not convinced that Betsy is town yet since she’s more than capable of faking tone, just from what I know about her. I’m going to have to read the game where she was mafia because Betsy is smart lol.

Dan debateably has had some of the best posts so far, his latest one strikes me as kind of a (checks notes) “mind meld” since his thoughts on Betsy somewhat align with mine. It feels like his motivations are solving the game with his posts rather than pushing an agenda.

Ace I stand by that you’ve had the weirdest start. Your latest posts are just looking like your spitballing, trying to see what can stick. If you think Dan is mafia, give me a reason to vote with you other than just the statistics of it, that’s the only thing you’ve provided on why you wanted him dead lol. Unless you’re planning on switching to me off a 2 year old game then meh.

Also… not to be rude but I’m legit wondering why you were chosen for the neighborizor since we’re talking about you being the elimination this phase. I almost want to think that whoever had the neighborizor was trying to communicate with a mafia team mate. Not to meta game here but I’m curious if the mafia knows who their team mates are yet

My maf game was mountainous mafia on here. Please go read it if it'll help you solve me.

Ace, you are saying you got a friendly neighbor message, not that you are the friendly neighbor, correct?

This is a bit frustrating. I have no way to help solve me, and having trouble deciding on my vote. When I signed off last night, I was between dan/ace. I'm still there. Never played with ness before so no reference there, but I'm still thinking it's either my most sus or my most town.

I'll be back on later.
 
Hey
Morning check in before I get to work.



My maf game was mountainous mafia on here. Please go read it if it'll help you solve me.

Ace, you are saying you got a friendly neighbor message, not that you are the friendly neighbor, correct?

This is a bit frustrating. I have no way to help solve me, and having trouble deciding on my vote. When I signed off last night, I was between dan/ace. I'm still there. Never played with ness before so no reference there, but I'm still thinking it's either my most sus or my most town.

I'll be back on later.
hey are you mafia Betso yes or no
 
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