Mafia Mountainous by Demand (ENDGAME- AND THE FINAL MAFIA IS...)

[Geoni]

Tbh I should probably just use Occums razor here indeed and it's just Antonio, the good EoD aside. I'm probably making an enemy out of him saying it but where I failed D2 was just not solving the simplest answer and following my initial day 2 PoE of Antonio vs Heyden and tinfoiling the hell out of Toads.

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That was the dumbest, most naive switch of rushed ISO ten minutes before EoD I’ve ever seen from players who tout themselves as the best

Scuse me while I depart to take the knife out of my back

Yeah I would have done it earlier but work kept procrastinating me. Not the best infolynch but eh, raises some new questions for me.

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Oh lol the white.

 

[radical6]

Tbh I should probably just use Occums razor here indeed and it's just Antonio, the good EoD aside. I'm probably making an enemy out of him saying it but where I failed D2 was just not solving the simplest answer and following my initial day 2 PoE of Antonio vs Heyden and tinfoiling the hell out of Toads.

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Yeah I would have done it earlier but work kept procrastinating me. Not the best infolynch but eh, raises some new questions for me.

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Oh lol the white.

LMAO

toad u said players so i hope im not in that group coz i never said i was the best!! tho its probably referring to geoni which is lolz

 

[dedenne]

smh

also sorry if it seems im avoiding the thread- im not. i have school and the thread is really only active when im asleep so love that.

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im so confused over the sudden switch to toads wtf

 

[Heyden]

That was the dumbest, most naive switch of rushed ISO ten minutes before EoD I?ve ever seen from players who tout themselves as the best

Scuse me while I depart to take the knife out of my back

It was me or you I?m sorry man. I did townlean you but I trust myself more.....

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My reads are all over the place, I’ll have to re-evaluate.

 

[radical6]

So we have like one more mislynch right? Rip

 

[Geoni]

Yes we have one more mislynch.

I'll slap some stuff out tonight on the people who need to be solved on D3. Try and briefly outline everyone's pros and cons. Weigh em.

 

[Geoni]

So lemme get Dedenne out of the way first.

Pros: her first post bounced off Ness and showed immediate interest in solving by means of weighing whether or not Antonio and myself were W/W and from her point of view I understand why she found me sketchy for my radical pressure/sus and it's a type of caution she repeats later in the game when it came to what some people were suspecting Waffles over.

Dan suspicion and vote feel good for day 1. She bounced off what I said about finding Dan 'reaction testing' ingenuine but I don't think it's a sheeped read because before I posted that she was looking at Toads posts and being like 'is Dan joking or something?' The reasons to join the Dan wagon and subsequent vote don't come off as unoriginal and not the person I think would have been bussing here.

Post 77 in general feels like an understandable set of reads for where the game was at that point.

Pushed a sus on me day 1 over the radical sus I had. It was one of those harsh takes and I don't blame her for just scumreading something that's not easy to understand but given she didn't act on it by voting me instead of Dan who was actually scum, it checks out as good.

Post 98 is solvy and reinforced in her day 2 read if Toads. I wouldn't know because she wasn't around but I imagine she would have disagreed with my tinfoil I had on Toads EoD and was re-evaluating but sticking to a light townread in him d2 which comes off as being uninformed despite being right, which is towny.

Cons: I really don't see many? I'd like for her to have been around for EoD more but that's a schedule thing I guess.

The only one I can think of, and perhaps the reason Waffles feels like she's kind of distant, is that she felt like she wasn't pushing her world view hard enough and convincing people to lynch her choice but she did a little at least and I probably just have high standards for that. And that's me really trying hard to find a con and it isn't a big one so honestly I can't find many cons? Would have liked her to dig in after Toads flipped but just about everyone has been a bit quiet this night phase.

Don't lynch this D3 unless she slips or starts to look god-awful, more than anyone else. Should for sure re-evaluated her come F3 if she is still alive before giving hammer but eh.

Don

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Radical next. Should be fun.

 

[unravel]

Yes we have one more mislynch.

I'll slap some stuff out tonight on the people who need to be solved on D3. Try and briefly outline everyone's pros and cons. Weigh em.

Why one more?

 

[radical6]

Have fun geoni

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Btw i have a lot of school for all of thursday so i wont be too active til friday

 

[Geoni]

Radical

Pros: reaction to my absence sus at the beginning of the game seems fine although I wonder why she hasn't looked back at it much as I've looked bad multiple times at this point. But it felt calm and brushed off in a towny way because she didn't get hung up over it or want others to and she dies know me best.

Another pro is the spew from Dan. She, Ness, and I were like the second most townspewed from Dan.

Not understanding the setup until after Dan flipped which seems inattentive to gaining a mafia win condition.

Throughout day 2 she just felt like she was sticking to her worlds of Heyden and Antonio and just kinda succumbed to EoD chaos when joining Toads train. Kinda wish she'd coaxed me out of it but I got lost in those last few minutes as it was.

Con: having no opinion on Daniel when she first entered after he posted some shady things and excusing it over IRL. And not pushing him much day 1 and being off wagon at the end of it. As a con it's not a huge one but it's worth looking back on in a F3 situation. Probably just town who really did feel like she disagreed with it through her worldview and with IRL constraints and whatnot genuinely felt she couldn't have stopped it and that's why offwagon.

Not sure why she found Antonio and I forced?

My other day 1 concern is that she didn't sus me despite pointing out all these moments from me she found questionable.


Also did you ever establish why you found the reasonings for lynching Dan unreasonable despite saying in the same post that you didn't have much of a read in him? Could be because you were in an Antonio scum world and didn't see them partnered which seems towny but yeah I would have liked more expansions on those thoughts at that time.

Overall this is also a solid townread. Do not lynch D3.

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Why one more?

Because if we mislynch D3, D4 is the F3 (lylo)

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Waffles is also a townread I think but lemme do Antonio and I'll return to that if I have time.

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Fmpov this game is a townwin if you lynch Heyden and Antonio the next two days, just gotta determine in which order and not be lynched here at D3 if I've survived the night.

 

[Geoni]

Antonio

Pros: The dumbtelks twice in a row is pretty bold and I'm back and forth on whether he'd do them or not, will look into his meta to remind myself if he has faked a dumbtell before as scum and what it looked like.

His line of questioning towards Heyden at the EoD2.

It's, at least on the surface, got to be a pro that he was on the Dan wagon D1 but what is within that moves will be within the cons.

Cons:

The case presented on Dan is largely a regurgitation of the things Ness, myself, and others pointed out about the reaction test and subsequent deflection that came from Dan towards me earlier. All formatted nice and neatly in quotes and whatnot. In this post, he shades Toads for not finding Dan suspicious as if being suspicious of Dan here should be a measure of towniness and we know it isn't necessarily.

"It feels like Toads is trying to persuade town" and so on in this post feels like Antonio already knew what Dan would flip.

Everyone else was nulls but these two and he didn't read Dan and Toads as w/w despite throwing shade at Toads one paragraph before this where he shades Toads for defending Dan which is a weird forced read because of the contradictory nature of it.

The good old 'didnt see it all, no glasses' thing repeats itself in day 1. Shade on Ness and I in post 99 is trivial and forced in general so he looks like he's not guilty of the accumulation of him only having a solid read on Dan.

He reinforces in his big anti-Geo post D2 that the accusation of him not having more than one read D1 is false and I am gonna argue that he did have two more but they were forced, trivial, and thus not true reads.

He was around more for EoD2 than he was for EoD1 because it was more assured that he wasn't being lynched at EoD1 and that his bus would go through whereas his vote mattered more at EoD2, although he took a sigh of relief and stayed where he was on me when it was Toads and not him that was sure to be lynched in those last few minutes, and thus at that point the shade if Heyden can be a con in reality.

We should have lynched this D2 and that's my fault so burn this with fire D3 and be done with it. If it's Heyden or someone else that's a rough D3 but worry about that later.

Cons

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Glgl

 

[radical6]

What does spew mean

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Also at thr time i didnt suspect antonio until daniel died. I literally thought daniel was just an apathetic townie and did not expect him to flip at all. So once he died I tried to think why no one helped him and thought maybe his scum buddy was afk because he put up 0 fight

 

[Geoni]

Spew is what a reveal of a dead player says about a living player.

I guess Bianca is late.

 

[radical6]

Is f3 like mylo or something then?

Also I honestly just found daniel super lazy and thought he was a decent enough of a player to not just die so easily. Should get rid of meta analysis nowadays since we all changed. I still think it was somewhat luck we lynched scum. If he really was busy as he said then I think he would have acted pretty much the same.

 

[Geoni]

What does spew mean

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Also at thr time i didnt suspect antonio until daniel died. I literally thought daniel was just an apathetic townie and did not expect him to flip at all. So once he died I tried to think why no one helped him and thought maybe his scum buddy was afk because he put up 0 fight

It's ok it's Antonio last scum.

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Is f3 like mylo or something then?

Also I honestly just found daniel super lazy and thought he was a decent enough of a player to not just die so easily. Should get rid of meta analysis nowadays since we all changed. I still think it was somewhat luck we lynched scum. If he really was busy as he said then I think he would have acted pretty much the same.

F3 = final 3 sorry

 

[radical6]

And I'm not sure when I said you were forced. Im tired and should look back but I do remember saying Ness was sucking up to you

Anyway since its past 7 and action deadlines: dedenne should be the one to die tonight since most people tr her

 

[Geoni]

Oh and you will probably die because Antonio needs to lynch me.

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Inb4 that's called wifom if I'm right

 

[radical6]

Who else wants to lynch you besides him? I dont see many people defending him either

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Wtf does wifom mean. I know its wine in front of me but like what does that mean

 

[Geoni]

Who else wants to lynch you besides him? I dont see many people defending him either

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Wtf does wifom mean. I know its wine in front of me but like what does that mean

Dedenne, Waffles, and Antonio are all willing to lynch me if their suspicions are a sign but idk about Heyden

 

[radical6]

Idk I still think scum is between heyden and antonio coz of their interactions with daniel.

I could see dedenne if she doesnt die tonight though

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Ness was an odd kill when dedenne was pretty much townread by everyone