Mafia Mystic Messenger Mafia [Endgame]

[amazonevan19]

Okeydokey, good, scum Ness and Dolby didn't lead a revolt against me Party time!

A few more pages of discussion hasn't really told me much new about anyone here tbh, except fireninja is a ballsy mofo if he's scum and an idiot if he's town. May just switch to him since I hate it when people are shifty on their roles and alignments. "Lie = die" is my mafia motto

 

[toadsworthy]

i will probably have enough for full reads list when I get home from work in around 4 hours

 

[oliversacnl]

What kind of job do you have? Just curious, unrelated to the game

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Oh wait, if it's unrelated to the game then I shouldn't derail. Sorry!

 

[N e s s]

Can someone explain why Dan is scummy, I don't really see it.

 

[Geoni]

I'm gonna address what Dad said in full once I get home (in 4 hours), but I'm gonna say a few things real quick
1. Pretty sure FN1 backed down last night
2. Dad, if I can be seen as guilty of that selectively reading to manipulate a case, you definitely are guilty of the same crime. You pretty much ignored my references quote of you about FOSing Oliver, especially since you now seem to be ignoring what I said about it.
3. I think that the scum games I provided are perfectly fine for meta, though I will concede that there was a more recent game large with you as town(Shadowrun I think), looking at the wiki
4. Still uncomfortable with Ness

I've already explained what I think of your reference quote that you were trying to point out as being FOS even just a little, but to explain it a little further, that wasn't FoS of me pointing out 'bad logic' from a nub, because all they did was just name drop bianca without explaining their reads on them, so it was more of an 'oh okay so care to explain that?' to see said logic. But the point is there wasn't logic to go after at that point so that's not what I was doing. I still feel uncomfortable about how you seemed to use it against me very quickly in the moment as a means to color me as a hypocrite but not much later you explained that it was an oversight. So it still stands as being backpedaling.

As for selectively reading to manipulate a case, yes I think you can be guilty of it. And yes, I think I can be guilty of it as well because when I'm scum I'm a manipulative *******. Not denying that. But I'm not guilty of the same crime because as of this game I'm not building a big meticulous case against anyone so trying to deflect that criticism by being all 'you're capable of it too so you can't be one to talk' is making it clearer to me that what you're trying to do is attempt to discredit me. In this case, it was an attempt to discredit my pointing out of your selective reading in source gathering as unfounded solely based on the silly 'lol ur capable of it so don't talk' logic.

In fact I'm going to go ahead and vote you, because as I've typed up this response I've come to realize that these two little moments I've just fully read into are less about picking apart my meta and suspecting me because it's worked for you before and more about desperately trying to color me as something I'm not being at all this game (scummy).

 

[oliversacnl]

Dad and Dolby should go out on a date.

 

[toadsworthy]

Can someone explain why Dan is scummy, I don't really see it.

I will explain later in my reads, i will probably vote for him tbh... fireninja is still high on my sus list, but he also could just be an idiot. I work as a server bartender while in grad school. It's Tuesday lunch hence why I can still read this thread, it's really slow currently

 

[Damniel]

I'm actually going to claim rn because I don't see a reason why I shouldn't

I'll claim in song:

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I'm actually going to claim rn because I don't see a reason why I shouldn't

I'll claim in song:

 

[toadsworthy]

Dad and Dolby should go out on a date.

Dad and Dolby need to stop going back and forth and focus on something else because there's more to this game than just the two of them fawning over each other

 

[amazonevan19]

stop fighting mom and dad

 

[oliversacnl]

Ah, I see. Good luck with grad school!

I think Ness is more suspicious than you, Toad, but I also don't wanna change my vote twice since that must be annoying for Kat. I'll vote for Ness tomorrow, probably.

 

[amazonevan19]

tbh I'm getting tired of the dolby/dad fight; we should vote between them because one of them is scum

 

[toadsworthy]

I'm actually going to claim rn because I don't see a reason why I shouldn't

I'll claim in song:

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I'm actually going to claim rn because I don't see a reason why I shouldn't

I'll claim in song:

You may as well have just claimed third jester, this doesn't really change much to me

 

[amazonevan19]

wtf damniel

 

[toadsworthy]

tbh I'm getting tired of the dolby/dad fight; we should vote between them because one of them is scum

If it's between dad and Dolby I would pick dad for scum over Dolby, I think Dolby is town
Not saying that I would today, just weighing in on the topic

 

[N e s s]

TBH the sole reason I'm not suspicious of FN is because he did my golden town tell of being the first to vote.

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I'll probably do a reads post later.

 

[amazonevan19]

If it's between dad and Dolby I would pick dad for scum over Dolby, I think Dolby is town
Not saying that I would today, just weighing in on the topic

just curious, why? I've heard you and a couple others say dad is scummier and I'm wondering if I'm misreading their interactions. I'm seeing dad as rationally responding and posting his defenses while Dolby is being nitpicky and reactionary AF

 

[Dolby]

TBH the sole reason I'm not suspicious of FN is because he did my golden town tell of being the first to vote.

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I'll probably do a reads post later.

That's pretty bad when he's voting for himself

Dan claiming kinda took me off guard tbh. Though him making more ****posts makes sense now I guess

 

[oliversacnl]

Toad, do you know what you're going to do after grad school?

I'm going to college soon, and it's pretty stressful...

 

[Geoni]

But if I'm gonna look back on my meta, looking back on my town-meta in particular, my bad lynches were those that had those big stupid cases and the ones where I actually succeeded were based on small slip-ups like the ones I've just mentioned above. So that's what I'm going to do.

I could also do the same to kirby to be quite honest, I wouldn't be surprised if they were scum team with Dolby.