Reads up to this point
Amanda1983
So I re-read over all your posts and for having the most posts, you haven?t really said much. The two biggest posts you made were defending Nightmares who ended up being scum, which is a big red flag. The thing is, I know you know the differences in buffing and risks of standing up for a scummate, and with the situation we had why try to risk your position in the game for something so low perceived benefits. If you had succeeded in not getting Nightmares lynched that night, we would?ve just done it the next day.
For reference here is the post where she defended lani. Much different from like all her posts before this point.
Also I didn?t realize you tried to lead a lynch on me, I largely missed a lot of the thread the past two days lol
I found this quote after the last post kinda strange too
no one was calling you out for tunneling at all, but you still felt the need to try to back up your argument for voting uttumori, or give yourself a back door should someone catch on.
you also had promised reads on Luca that first day and never did which is sketchy. Like yeah I have been inactive, but I also haven?t made promises about stuff because I knew I was busy.
Also when Zendel let his role slip, you were first to make a big deal about it. If it was me, I would?ve kept that on the DL and try not to bring attention to it, even if Zendel was aware about it or not. You definitely know that even outted Town are a threat to mafia too, and so its funny how Zendel ended up dead that next night. Even if you aren?t mafia, for future, just keep that info to yourself.
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I'll address the quotes in bold in order, for ease of reference :
- A very very minor quibble but I don't have the most posts in this thread, I've got the 3rd higher player post count. I just wanted to clarify that.
- I feel like you are vastly overestimating my knowledge and experience here. I've never had an actual, proper mafia role yet. That cultists game was my only mafia role, and I was converted near the very end of the game - well after Cult had guaranteed their victory no matter what happened. I get the general theory of supporting scummates, and I know the basics of what to be suspicious of from a Town perspective. But that's it.
- This was the first real direct, confrontational post I had to make this game, and it was towards a very very new player. I did not want to seem dismissive or condescending of her read, but I also absolutely did not agree with it. I post with the intent of generating productive content to further the game, but I try to remain mindful of how I come across to others, even moreso when I haven't interacted with them much prior. If anyone looks at the posts in question and thinks my response was out of line, then that's a problem and I want to know in that case. Short of that, I don't see the issue.
- I don't know if I've misunderstood what "leading a lynch" is or what, but that's the second time you've said I'm doing that when I don't understand why. This time I placed a vote at least, but it was clearly not going to get you lynched given the vote pattern. It was also a vote I think was justified and I'd expect Town!Toads to acknowledge that.
- I'm sorry for not being clear at the time : this reference to tunneling was towards Uttumori, who seemed to be tunneling Lani. I also didn't vote, then or later.
- I did promise a read on Luca, and I gave them the next day. Brief, yes, but I did.
- My understanding at that time was that a) every player who'd played more than 3 games would know that was a Town slip, b) mafia already KNOW who they are and in this game that means they would know everyone else's role - since we had only two, and now 3 total, c) Zendel had NO IDEA he had Town slipped, leaving him vulnerable as he was unaware of how those key mechanics work, d) give the new/er players the benefit of knowing we now had a basically Confirmed Town player - a huge advantage, but only if used, and e) that at least some forms of slipping - falsely or legitimately - had to be allowed in the game due to it's very nature. I would not have said anything if I thought Zendel would be penalised for the accidental slip in any way.
- Mafia would already have known his alignment regardless of how experienced they are. Zendel wasn't mafia, therefore he was Town. I don't think that had anything to do with me.
- For any other type of mafia game I would be much, much more hesitant to bring any attention to such a slip. Thank you for explaining why that's important.
