Before you die, care to share what he said about other players? It would give us good insight to his team.
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Before you die, care to share what he said about other players? It would give us good insight to his team.
Z
zoolka
Really? almost nothing, he was not helpful at all.
and I was not asking many question, as he claimed simple Townie.
and I was not asking many question, as he claimed simple Townie.
Remaining players:
Trojan - "cleared" by both mafia members
Minties - both scum members flip flopped on me and said I was town until I sus'd them, then tried to make me as scum.
Tom - ender claimed he was town
Lucanosa - "not enough to go off of" MUST BE WARY OF HIDING MAFIA
Runeraider - "not enough to go off of" MUST BE WARY OF HIDING MAFIA
Crys - iirc, both mafia members wanted to consider them for a lynch as well
Jacob - pushed by both mafia members very hard, almost lynched by them D2
zoolka - confirmed lover and dying today
I am still not 100% solid on Tom's neutral 3rd party claim due to the confirmed presence of a lover. I still believe he may be a hostile 3rd party. That or Crys who has also claimed to have two night lives when they were still Dough. A replacement doesn't excuse the previous behaviour. One of them is lying.
If we're going by meta analysis here:
That would mean mafia killed Panda and Meow. Panda told me she was going to shoot Daniel, so he died to jack shot because she felt that he was suspicious. That leaves the third party SK kill on Trundle.
Lets look at this voting:
Tbh after looking at the voting, both Trundle and Ender pushed Jacob hard to be killed. If he wasn't in any real danger, I don't see the usefulness of this bus considering that we would have probably just lynched Ender the next day if Jacob didn't flip red.
Ender was keen on trying to lynch Crys and Jacob for Day Two.
Trundle also pushed for him:
I'm feeling like that would be so stupid to bus your team mate that wasn't even top suspicion this hard unless Jacob isn't actually scum. I'm more inclined to believe he's not scum.
Trojan on the other hand I do think is scum:
Ender also "cleared" Trojan as town due to his "reads" and didn't vote for him or really comment on him that much D1. I firmly stand by believing that the behaviour 180 is due to being coached by a team. Your playstyle doesn't just completely change into another one in the next game unless someone is telling you to stfu and not draw attention.
I also prompted Runeraider for a response and got nothing. A bit more meta, but seeing as Ender and Trundle are "experienced mafia", I'd believe that the remaining mafia are more "nubby". I also believe there's two left. Two mafia kills last night, but with Trundle dying, that should leave one mafia kill and one third party SK kill. I'm almost inclined to have everyone claim after today's lynch depending on what the person flips. Mostly everyone has claimed their role somewhere besides the ones hiding in the shadows i.e. Lucanosa, Runeraider, Jacob and Trojan.
"(10:23:17 PM) Tom29193: Salt Mentos seems pretty aggressive"
I will destroy you
Trojan - "cleared" by both mafia members
Minties - both scum members flip flopped on me and said I was town until I sus'd them, then tried to make me as scum.
Tom - ender claimed he was town
Lucanosa - "not enough to go off of" MUST BE WARY OF HIDING MAFIA
Runeraider - "not enough to go off of" MUST BE WARY OF HIDING MAFIA
Crys - iirc, both mafia members wanted to consider them for a lynch as well
Jacob - pushed by both mafia members very hard, almost lynched by them D2
zoolka - confirmed lover and dying today
I am still not 100% solid on Tom's neutral 3rd party claim due to the confirmed presence of a lover. I still believe he may be a hostile 3rd party. That or Crys who has also claimed to have two night lives when they were still Dough. A replacement doesn't excuse the previous behaviour. One of them is lying.
If we're going by meta analysis here:
That would mean mafia killed Panda and Meow. Panda told me she was going to shoot Daniel, so he died to jack shot because she felt that he was suspicious. That leaves the third party SK kill on Trundle.
Lets look at this voting:
Tbh after looking at the voting, both Trundle and Ender pushed Jacob hard to be killed. If he wasn't in any real danger, I don't see the usefulness of this bus considering that we would have probably just lynched Ender the next day if Jacob didn't flip red.
Ender was keen on trying to lynch Crys and Jacob for Day Two.
Trundle also pushed for him:
I'm feeling like that would be so stupid to bus your team mate that wasn't even top suspicion this hard unless Jacob isn't actually scum. I'm more inclined to believe he's not scum.
Trojan on the other hand I do think is scum:
Ender also "cleared" Trojan as town due to his "reads" and didn't vote for him or really comment on him that much D1. I firmly stand by believing that the behaviour 180 is due to being coached by a team. Your playstyle doesn't just completely change into another one in the next game unless someone is telling you to stfu and not draw attention.
I also prompted Runeraider for a response and got nothing. A bit more meta, but seeing as Ender and Trundle are "experienced mafia", I'd believe that the remaining mafia are more "nubby". I also believe there's two left. Two mafia kills last night, but with Trundle dying, that should leave one mafia kill and one third party SK kill. I'm almost inclined to have everyone claim after today's lynch depending on what the person flips. Mostly everyone has claimed their role somewhere besides the ones hiding in the shadows i.e. Lucanosa, Runeraider, Jacob and Trojan.
"(10:23:17 PM) Tom29193: Salt Mentos seems pretty aggressive"
I will destroy you
He didn't say "I find x players sus" or anything at all?
Z
zoolka
He said only that Tom is 100% town.
I just realised something about Tom's claim though.
It doesn't make sense for there to be a veteran survivor if mafia has to kill all neutral third parties. It also doesn't make sense for a survivor to be a veteran at all? Since usually they just have to hide in the game and hope they don't get shot. Dolby isn't a new game maker, so I don't think he would make the mistake of making such a huge amount of the game beefy third party. The role name also doesn't add up because it's part of a lover arc. This is reminding me more and more of Sunleth mafia.
Zoolka, you're dying today cause of lover. What is your lover role name?
On phone so no formatting.
Tom said:
It doesn't make sense for there to be a veteran survivor if mafia has to kill all neutral third parties. It also doesn't make sense for a survivor to be a veteran at all? Since usually they just have to hide in the game and hope they don't get shot. Dolby isn't a new game maker, so I don't think he would make the mistake of making such a huge amount of the game beefy third party. The role name also doesn't add up because it's part of a lover arc. This is reminding me more and more of Sunleth mafia.
Zoolka, you're dying today cause of lover. What is your lover role name?
On phone so no formatting.
How so?
@Salt Mounties Destroyer of Worlds: I am telling the truth.
According to my PM, the strength of my love for Sergiu has given me the will to continue on if wounded once. Ultimately I just want to survive until I can access Arstotzka to reunite with my "love". Doesn't mention dying if Segiu does.- - - Post Merge - - -
Also I haven't said anything because I felt no need. I can't figure out who our last third party is with the little the others have posted nor do I have a decent idea about what town did at night. Ultimately I'll follow you to a point where I decide you're not doing things in town's interests.
I doubt that, Minties wouldn't be keeping her vote on you if you guys "sorted it out".
Sorry, I've been sick and couldn't access a computer today. Reading quickly right now.
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So basically Minties is apparently pushing on Trojan, and if I am correct in my assumption of Minties as town, then it logically follows that Trojan is either mafia or Minties got it wrong. Then there's the '90%' town read on Trojan by Ender. In my opinion, that's evidence against Trojan because I don't think that Ender would be posting his actual read there, and probably called him town so that he could be behind them and protect them. Of course, he died pretty early, so it backfired. And then there's the fact that he's acting pretty seriously about this game. This is a complete change from his earlier games, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is his scum strategy.
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So basically Minties is apparently pushing on Trojan, and if I am correct in my assumption of Minties as town, then it logically follows that Trojan is either mafia or Minties got it wrong. Then there's the '90%' town read on Trojan by Ender. In my opinion, that's evidence against Trojan because I don't think that Ender would be posting his actual read there, and probably called him town so that he could be behind them and protect them. Of course, he died pretty early, so it backfired. And then there's the fact that he's acting pretty seriously about this game. This is a complete change from his earlier games, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is his scum strategy.
Anything that keeps you alive an extra day is probably great in your book.
Who wants to share character names so I can do meta bull****
Hi hi, sorry I was at uni so I haven't actually read much today (it's 5:30pm as of writing this). Just got back home and sat down.
Here's where we are at the moment:
There is still a SK in play in this game.
Two theories to that:
One - Tom is that SK
I've made a few posts on Tom here, here, and here (spoiler'd for wall of text or just click on the word "here"):
I don't want to sound like I'm parroting myself over and over, but Tom does tend to claim crazy roles when he's mafia or not town. Let's say his character name is a trueclaim when it's part of a lover arc in the game, you could argue that his character Elisa Katsenja could be a murderous killer bent on revenge because her lover Sergiu is dead. Apparently in the game, she has no family left, only him. However it would also make sense since she doesn't get that upset in the game that she just survives on. Tom honestly frustrates the **** out of me because I can never believe him. I'm less sure about this theory than theory two.
Theory two:
Crys is the SK.
Crys is clearly not mafia aligned because they were replaced after Dough saw the mafia team. The does not mean they're not 3rd party aligned especially after the things Dough/Crys has said. Dough was working heavily with Meow, but they also told Meow something different than what they told me.
doughssant said:
doughssant said:
Apparently they claimed that they started the game as a townie and could choose either jack or veteran.
I spoke to meow about it because I trusted her as well and she said:
m3ow_ said:
Dough then got replaced by Crys before I could find out more, but I started to PM Crys then.
Crys said:
Crys said:
Not sure if meta is warranted here, but Vince Lestrade is apparently on the run after murdering his girlfriend if that means anything.
Crys also PM'd Trojan this:
Crys said:
This looks like cop fishing to me because if they're actually 3rd party and not a townie like they claim, then they'd want to find the cop and kill them ASAP. Something just doesn't sit right with me through these PMs.
tl;dr
Crys is probably SK
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WAIT A MINUTE THIS IS TOTALLY A MYLO
**** me
7 town members left (zoolka confirmed dead, so 7)
2 mafia left ( I think)
1 SK left
4 town left
mislynch town today
go into night with 3 town
1 KP + 1 SK kill = 1 town left when day comes and gg we lose.
Yeah I think town lost this game. ):
