People who use hacking programs for acnl (its a question, i am NOT doing it)?

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I was wondering on the policy of the bell tree forums, how using RAM editors or any other hacking or duplicating, they say its not allowed to be used in the forums, and they usually give warnings to people who state they have been hacking, but what about the people that are pretty obvious about hacking, those people who always have every unorderable set always in stock, any item imaginable in their store, I'm wondering how its aloud even though its obvious they're hacking but they're not saying that they did? Do they need to admit it to get in trouble for it?
 
I used to see several shops on here where people quote obviously got everything from either hacking or using power saves, neither of which are allowed on these forums. I did see somebody on the trading plaza once who was offering to get everybody any villager they liked. Which would be pretty obvious they're hacking and I remember that thread got removed, even though they never publicly stated they were hacking.
I think when it's very obvious and people report it that the mods would do something about it. I suppose if they can justify how they got all their things there isn't much anybody can do though. Isn't like they can go to their house and check it out
 
Well tbh I have said in the past that how I got all myvstuff was from OTHER websites that do allow ALL hacking. I do not do it but was given about 98 percent of my inventory by others initially in my first two games and then I saved, bartered traded bout what have you but the sites I am referring to among many others and one of those such sites is gamfaqs.
This is the only site that does not allow ant such form of duping or hacking and I personally don't have a problem with it. However, just because a person does have completed inventory with many multiples that they have saved up and or trade d for does NOT make them a hacker or duper. I myself have been accused and rightly ticks me off. No one knows me and no one that doesn't know me or how I play has the rich to accuse me of such things. Its just like black listing. Just because I hasve what I have does not mean in any way that I am a hacker or dupe r which waaaay different then hacking by the way. These threads do nothing but get people labeled.in the wrong way. I have admitted well before I joined that when I was on gamefaqs that yes I duped but I have never been able to hack. But since pretty leaving that site no I have not violeted this sites rules. People should really think before knowing the facts.
The game has been out for 3-4 years now and if a lot of people have not got a full inventory with many multiples by now by even Nintendo. Giving t all e harder items then that is on them. This is not aimweaimwed for the new players BTW. But I am a a much older player with now 7 towns. I have been accused of everything but I don't care anymore. I have always been open about my past which is just that, the past. I just try to help people now. As for as this site not taking action they do.
It just irks me that some people think they can guilt others just because some of us have more then others. I Have worked hard for the things I do have so I would just suggest not pointing fingers when most don't know the whole story. That is the last I will say on this.

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I was wondering on the policy of the bell tree forums, how using RAM editors or any other hacking or duplicating, they say its not allowed to be used in the forums, and they usually give warnings to people who state they have been hacking, but what about the people that are pretty obvious about hacking, those people who always have every unorderable set always in stock, any item imaginable in their store, I'm wondering how its aloud even though its obvious they're hacking but they're not saying that they did? Do they need to admit it to get in trouble for it?

And BTW you are so very wrong in your assumptions to say that just because another person has every item of the game and many multiples that they must be hacking or duping. Your black labeling a good many people. This after you just asked me for a set to get you. You don't know how I play so don't as they say ASSUME.
 
And I humbly apologize if I have been out of line. I just get tired of the fact that just because I have everything in game and many items of them people like try and label or black list me OR others like me. Againy sorry. Its a sore subject.
 
Hey, I don't think Lily meant to accuse you of anything, especially if she just requested a trade from you. You and many others have been doing nothing wrong, and are underappreciated for your services. I'm really sorry you often get accused, when you have so much to offer out of the kindness of your own heart!

Like LinkToTheWorld, I think really obvious cheating gets warning or blacklisted, but not sure what happens to discrete cheaters.
 
Hey, I don't think Lily meant to accuse you of anything, especially if she just requested a trade from you. You and many others have been doing nothing wrong, and are underappreciated for your services. I'm really sorry you often get accused, when you have so much to offer out of the kindness of your own heart!

Like LinkToTheWorld, I think really obvious cheating gets warning or blacklisted, but not sure what happens to discrete cheaters.

I know I sort of jumped the gun on this but it really strikes a chord with me and I am sure with others who do happen to have just about everything(I am actually missing about little less then half of the villager's pictures and the regular Nintendo fortune cookies) so this for in my defense kinda hints at that do I do not hack and have had many posts asking and trading for such items which if I did hack I wouldn't be asking for them. I guess I just get so iirksome when these topics come up seemingly when I start new threads willing to help out others with bearily asking for much in return. I know I shouldn't have gone off like that but I do know others who have felt the same as me in private conversations and I get bothered by it. Though I know I shouldn't but it HAS in fact happened that a few certain members on here have actually singled me out in the past(by name) by misconstrueing my words/meanings when I have always been very honest about my past. I am an honest person and would never hide the fact since quite a few people are also on here that I have been friends with on at least the one site I have mentioned in my previous post know this about me. It just struck me as not a coincidence that I post a topic last night to help out others and some people were asking for a few of the same items that I happen to have many many of in just about all my towns. So even though I was not named specifically, it had felt that way because it has happened before. I am sorry to the poster(Lily). Its just a sore subject for me to begin with. But I want to set the record straight I do have 7 towns( just got the 7th 4 days ag0 through nintendo select) and when you have that many you are going to have literally tons of multiples and full inventories. And o also wanted to point while I have not seen it happen on this site the site I had previously mentioned would have these huge inventory parties where you could go to a persons town and free of charge and inventors everything they had on the ground in their town. And it wasn't a one off thing either.
When you are disabled like myself and this is the only 3ds game you play its just going to be like this. Again I sincerely do apologize. I did feel like this topic was being aimed at me and a few others even though my name was not specified it just felt to coincidental to me because of the timing. And because I have been wrongly labeled and accused in the past.

Sorry for being the drama queen(saying this kinda tongue and cheek.) I will stop now but I do please ask anyone to think before they assume anything. Yes that goes for myself as well because I did my own assuming here.

Thanks for reading my highly drama filled rants. See yoiu next time. ;)
 
hm: lol chill, isnt it basically the same thing to sell hacked items you got for free lol. they don't ban people for hacking, they ban them for talking about hacking and for selling items if they are hackers. andddd having friends who hack and give you any items you want and then selling the items is pretty much the same thing, as it messes with the economy of the forum.

like, im Pretty Sure it's not ok to sell hacked items even if u werent the one who hacked them...,. no need to get salty abt it, it's just the rules of this forum.

and if someone seriously has a bunch of unorderables without any form of hacking thn Cool Beans but probably not super likely lolll..,,
 
I AM NOT SELLING HACKED OR DUPED ITEMS. THESE ARE ITEMS I HAVE AQUIRED ON MY OWN. WITHOUT ANYONE HACKING EM OR DUPING THEM FOR ME OR ME HACKING OR DUPING THEM EITHER. I HAVE STATED I HAVE BOUGHT AND TRADED AND EARNED THEM VY MY OWN RIGHT. JEEESH NO ONE CAN READ. AND JUST ABOUT ALL UNORDIBLES WERE DISTRIBUTED BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES EVERY TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR BY GOING TO EITHER HOME DEPOT !CDONALDS, BURGER KING OR ANY OTHER SPOT PASS LOCATION. THIS IS KNOWN EVEN NINTENDO'S OWN WEBSITE SO DONT TELL ME I AM SELLING HACKED OR DUPED ITEMS WHEN I KNOW DARN WELL I AM NOT. YO ARE NOT PLAYG MY GAME SO DONT TELL ME HOW I AM.

I ALSO STATED VERY CLEARLY SINCE JOINING THIS SITEALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW TJAT I HAVE NOT DONE ANY OF THIS. I SAID WHEN I WAS ON A DIFFERENT SITE OVER THREE YEARS AGO I HAD DUPED ITEMS BUT I NEVER ONXE EVER SOLD THEM I GAZVE THEMCAWAY ONTHAT SITE NOT HERE EVER SO DONT TRY SND BLACK LIST ME.
 
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It just comes down to that there isn't any proof most of the time. I think it's pretty obvious when someone is hacking, but at the same time, if someone is selling 1,000 of the same unorderable item, they can also have obtained it completely legitimately, it just takes a much longer time, and the chances of that being the case are a lot less likely. They could have a second game where they just reset on the same event and farm up the item, or something similar.
So there isn't really a "policy" we go off, it's more or less that we don't accept transactions of hacked or duplicated items. Yeah, it's really obvious when someone is selling hacked items, or we have suspicious, but like I said, they can still obtain them legitimately, and without any solid proof or evidence we can't really accuse anyone of selling hacked items, because you're always going to have that one person who did put in the hard yards for the items and then have them end up getting accused of hacking.

Also can everyone calm down in here, thanks.
 
It just comes down to that there isn't any proof most of the time. I think it's pretty obvious when someone is hacking, but at the same time, if someone is selling 1,000 of the same unorderable item, they can also have obtained it completely legitimately, it just takes a much longer time, and the chances of that being the case are a lot less likely. They could have a second game where they just reset on the same event and farm up the item, or something similar.
So there isn't really a "policy" we go off, it's more or less that we don't accept transactions of hacked or duplicated items. Yeah, it's really obvious when someone is selling hacked items, or we have suspicious, but like I said, they can still obtain them legitimately, and without any solid proof or evidence we can't really accuse anyone of selling hacked items, because you're always going to have that one person who did put in the hard yards for the items and then have them end up getting accused of hacking.

Also can everyone calm down in here, thanks.
ohhh that does make sense. I wasn't accusing anyone of course I know some people do work hard for their stuff, I was just wondering because some people get punished and some don't. Thanks for answering.

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I AM NOT SELLING HACKED OR DUPED ITEMS. THESE ARE ITEMS I HAVE AQUIRED ON MY OWN. WITHOUT ANYONE HACKING EM OR DUPING THEM FOR ME OR ME HACKING OR DUPING THEM EITHER. I HAVE STATED I HAVE BOUGHT AND TRADED AND EARNED THEM VY MY OWN RIGHT. JEEESH NO ONE CAN READ. AND JUST ABOUT ALL UNORDIBLES WERE DISTRIBUTED BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES EVERY TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR BY GOING TO EITHER HOME DEPOT !CDONALDS, BURGER KING OR ANY OTHER SPOT PASS LOCATION. THIS IS KNOWN EVEN NINTENDO'S OWN WEBSITE SO DONT TELL ME I AM SELLING HACKED OR DUPED ITEMS WHEN I KNOW DARN WELL I AM NOT. YO ARE NOT PLAYG MY GAME SO DONT TELL ME HOW I AM.

I ALSO STATED VERY CLEARLY SINCE JOINING THIS SITEALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW TJAT I HAVE NOT DONE ANY OF THIS. I SAID WHEN I WAS ON A DIFFERENT SITE OVER THREE YEARS AGO I HAD DUPED ITEMS BUT I NEVER ONXE EVER SOLD THEM I GAZVE THEMCAWAY ONTHAT SITE NOT HERE EVER SO DONT TRY SND BLACK LIST ME.
woah woah woah ;;-;; this was neverrrrr aimed at you :I your shop has been on this site for soooo long and I know you have stocked items, I was just wondering this because I've seen soooo many shops with tons of unlimited stuff, I'm seriously not trying to cause trouble here of course, if you say you don't then you don't, I'm seriously sorry if I made you feel targeted that was not my intention at all HM.


Edit: also if you say I'm implying about you here, then if I ordered from a hacker (which it's clear it's not) wouldn't I be just as bad? Your shop was always up and I've ordered from it numorous times and you always want to help people so why would I do that to you and target you.


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Also for the record: not black labelling anyone here. Seriously I'm talking about really obvious ones I'm not telling people to go attack them or be suspicious. Like a serious question, I wouldn't be doing this on the HQ thread.
And I do have to say, I give you my apology from the bottom of my heart, but I do have to defend and say, it was wrong for you to assume I'm black listing, or even talking about you after I ordered from you actually many times now, I don't play dirty like that, I don't use someone and then throw them under the bus, that's not who I am so it hurts that you even think that, so yes apologies, but it's wrong for you to make assumptions about me from a mere question, not an accusation.. You work hard for your stuff, I totally believe you when you say it, no one should have to defend that they're not hacking to people that will never believe them, I get it.
 
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ohhh that does make sense. I wasn't accusing anyone of course I know some people do work hard for their stuff, I was just wondering because some people get punished and some don't. Thanks for answering.

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woah woah woah ;;-;; this was neverrrrr aimed at you :I your shop has been on this site for soooo long and I know you have stocked items, I was just wondering this because I've seen soooo many shops with tons of unlimited stuff, I'm seriously not trying to cause trouble here of course, if you say you don't then you don't, I'm seriously sorry if I made you feel targeted that was not my intention at all HM.


Edit: also if you say I'm implying about you here, then if I ordered from a hacker (which it's clear it's not) wouldn't I be just as bad? Your shop was always up and I've ordered from it numorous times and you always want to help people so why would I do that to you and target you.


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Also for the record: not black labelling anyone here. Seriously I'm talking about really obvious ones I'm not telling people to go attack them or be suspicious. Like a serious question, I wouldn't be doing this on the HQ thread.

I very sincerely apologize to YOU. I am way overall sensitive today and there was no excuse for my numerous outburst no matter what anyone may or may not think of me. Most who do know me know I have worked very hard to get what I have and I just want to help others like how I was doing last night. I am lasting on now sleep and a lot of Sicky ickiness and there was no excuse for me to talk the way I did. I can be very hot headed when people are just not getting me and you certainly did nothing to deserve but as the mod said one of things I do is use ALL my characters to get multiple items from an event as well as use my sons like for example the bobbble head items. I went through each year from 2012-2024 and got each and every bobblehead on every single cartridge I have and also used my sons. I have also paid for items or traded or as I pointed out just about all of the ferign dlc was given out las year every two weeks. All my stuff is legit and get so upset when people who for whatever reason want to assume or accuse otherwise. But I do work my but off when I can to get all these items legitly and sometimes the negative nancies just don't want to believe even if the proof is rich there in front of them because they themselves have a hard time getting things. But I !want I said you are in no way fault its my I'll temper that I hardly ever let out and just blew up. I am truely sorry and hope we can move pass my bad behavior. All I ever want to do is help and I think most do know that. This will not stop me from doing so. Whatever I can do to make it up to you just let me know.
 
I AM NOT SELLING HACKED OR DUPED ITEMS. THESE ARE ITEMS I HAVE AQUIRED ON MY OWN. WITHOUT ANYONE HACKING EM OR DUPING THEM FOR ME OR ME HACKING OR DUPING THEM EITHER. I HAVE STATED I HAVE BOUGHT AND TRADED AND EARNED THEM VY MY OWN RIGHT. JEEESH NO ONE CAN READ. AND JUST ABOUT ALL UNORDIBLES WERE DISTRIBUTED BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES EVERY TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR BY GOING TO EITHER HOME DEPOT !CDONALDS, BURGER KING OR ANY OTHER SPOT PASS LOCATION. THIS IS KNOWN EVEN NINTENDO'S OWN WEBSITE SO DONT TELL ME I AM SELLING HACKED OR DUPED ITEMS WHEN I KNOW DARN WELL I AM NOT. YO ARE NOT PLAYG MY GAME SO DONT TELL ME HOW I AM.

I ALSO STATED VERY CLEARLY SINCE JOINING THIS SITEALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW TJAT I HAVE NOT DONE ANY OF THIS. I SAID WHEN I WAS ON A DIFFERENT SITE OVER THREE YEARS AGO I HAD DUPED ITEMS BUT I NEVER ONXE EVER SOLD THEM I GAZVE THEMCAWAY ONTHAT SITE NOT HERE EVER SO DONT TRY SND BLACK LIST ME.

lol ok i'm sure.
 
I very sincerely apologize to YOU. I am way overall sensitive today and there was no excuse for my numerous outburst no matter what anyone may or may not think of me. Most who do know me know I have worked very hard to get what I have and I just want to help others like how I was doing last night. I am lasting on now sleep and a lot of Sicky ickiness and there was no excuse for me to talk the way I did. I can be very hot headed when people are just not getting me and you certainly did nothing to deserve but as the mod said one of things I do is use ALL my characters to get multiple items from an event as well as use my sons like for example the bobbble head items. I went through each year from 2012-2024 and got each and every bobblehead on every single cartridge I have and also used my sons. I have also paid for items or traded or as I pointed out just about all of the ferign dlc was given out las year every two weeks. All my stuff is legit and get so upset when people who for whatever reason want to assume or accuse otherwise. But I do work my but off when I can to get all these items legitly and sometimes the negative nancies just don't want to believe even if the proof is rich there in front of them because they themselves have a hard time getting things. But I !want I said you are in no way fault its my I'll temper that I hardly ever let out and just blew up. I am truely sorry and hope we can move pass my bad behavior. All I ever want to do is help and I think most do know that. This will not stop me from doing so. Whatever I can do to make it up to you just let me know.

no no I so totally get it, being bothered all the time about something you're not doing would probably get me a little peeved off too tbh. Sorry for the commenter too who just said you do, cause honestly they don't know if you do or not but I take your word for it! I accept your apology, your freak out was kind of understandable in the sense that you dont like how often people accuse you about it. Sorry to trouble you!
 
I AM NOT SELLING HACKED OR DUPED ITEMS. THESE ARE ITEMS I HAVE AQUIRED ON MY OWN. WITHOUT ANYONE HACKING EM OR DUPING THEM FOR ME OR ME HACKING OR DUPING THEM EITHER. I HAVE STATED I HAVE BOUGHT AND TRADED AND EARNED THEM VY MY OWN RIGHT. JEEESH NO ONE CAN READ. AND JUST ABOUT ALL UNORDIBLES WERE DISTRIBUTED BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES EVERY TWO WEEKS LAST YEAR BY GOING TO EITHER HOME DEPOT !CDONALDS, BURGER KING OR ANY OTHER SPOT PASS LOCATION. THIS IS KNOWN EVEN NINTENDO'S OWN WEBSITE SO DONT TELL ME I AM SELLING HACKED OR DUPED ITEMS WHEN I KNOW DARN WELL I AM NOT. YO ARE NOT PLAYG MY GAME SO DONT TELL ME HOW I AM.

I ALSO STATED VERY CLEARLY SINCE JOINING THIS SITEALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW TJAT I HAVE NOT DONE ANY OF THIS. I SAID WHEN I WAS ON A DIFFERENT SITE OVER THREE YEARS AGO I HAD DUPED ITEMS BUT I NEVER ONXE EVER SOLD THEM I GAZVE THEMCAWAY ONTHAT SITE NOT HERE EVER SO DONT TRY SND BLACK LIST ME.

Lmao


Why is this turning into a full on caps lock argument jfc
 
this might take the prize for most tl;dr thread of the year

also lol @ allcaps rant. I'm sorry, but I can't take anyone seriously in the slightest once they do that
 
Personally, I don't think the whole hacking/cheating part is what's wrong, it's basically taking and monopolizing the economy that's wrong imho. Example: person A decides to spend all their free time farming, say, blue roses (legit, mind you), and then opens a thread selling them for tbt so they can buy things for their town, collectibles, art, and things for other games. They see the average price is 10 tbt per rose (for example). Now, since they obviously have more blue roses in stock than anyone else, they decide that in order to get the most attention and sales, they'll sell for 1 tbt per. And if you buy enough, you get however many you want for free. Everyone now goes and buys from person A, because, obviously, it's cheaper and who doesn't want free stuff?! Now... person B had a shop selling blue roses for 10 tbt each and no one even looks at their thread anymore. Everyone goes over to person A to buy roses. The thing is, is that person B only enjoys breeding as a method of earning tbt to buy stuff for their town, they suck at art, at other things in-game to earn income, at literally everything but breeding. Breeding is like their specialty, you know? Person A has indirectly taken away their only income, which makes person A's progress in their town at a halt for the most part. At the same time, person A has 100000000000 tbt and now has all of the customers, and literally no one else even bothers to sell stuff anymore because person A will find a way to sell cheaper, and pull all sales towards them. Person A is very kind, and giving away stuff, but at the same time they're also taking away from everyone by monopolizing the economy.

This is just an example, but it's the way you sell/trade that's bad for the economy, not so much the cheating part. Cheating just makes it faster and easier to build up a huge stock to be able to do this ^ working hard doing it just takes longer. This is just my take on everything.
 
I'm a hacker. I try not to make a habit of it, and I certainly wouldn't sell anything that was hacked, but I don't think there is anything wrong with it, provided you aren't hurting anyone in the process. I actually think this forum would have a spur in activity if hacking discussion was promoted, because hackers make up at least 30% of the community. I remember the days of City Folk, when everybody and their grandmother was a hacker.

EDIT: Also, hacking takes a lot of time and effort, contrary to popular belief. In many ways it can be harder than achieving things legitimately. As technology gets more advanced, hacking it gets more and more difficult. I remember a time when typing into your chat box could give you something. Not anymore.
 
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