Mafia PokéMafia : a small game of mafia - Town Wins

[Dolby]

And did you think about the wagonomics that way at the time? Your vote was on Zelda too. I still need to take the time to actually perform some legit wagonomics but I said that the wagonomics felt ****ty and meant it. In all honesty I was thinking about you the most when it came to Zelda having the most promising wagonomics because that was a strong focus (tunnel...kinda, admittedly) before I went to bed but I will see if I was wrong in a few when I actually get cracking on them but yeah that's where I was under that time crunch.

Yeah, I was thinking about it. Brought it up indirectly multiple times with the anti-aligns argument, and when it came down to it her only valid teammate was probably Heyden, who's vote on Dragon without regard to the lynch leader definetely was the sole thing that pushed me back onto Zelda and off Dragon.

Also...only 16 hours? It probably has to do with me town leaning you for the objective pr scenario solving that reminded me of the Dethy and vaguely other games because the focus wasn't on players but once day 1 began it was time for you to really start reading players and not the scenarios and I didn't find some of your reads agreeable, thus starting an exchange of walls during which you spiralled all the way down to my #1 slot due to the many points covered in said walls. What about this progression on you makes no sense?

Might as well answer that later because I need to focus on aforementioned wagonomics after my patrol.

The fact that half the points in at your last wall are just comments on certain aspects or misunderstandings serve to lengthen your posts (particularly the misconception that you consider to hold that I was considering "uncaring townie" the only possibility that I was having for Zelda). The only thing that I felt that you held against me that wasn't a misconception at the end of your walls was how I treated your tinfoil me/Zelda, and how I treated JT.

However, the central point lies in that you thought that I was the only partner for Zelda. For what purpose does no lynching do, if you sus me and think that Zelda is best partner for me? No lynch still doesn't make sense regardless of how you thought about her. You either townread her, null read her, or scumread her (which you seemed to do in the context of a me/her scum team). If you wanted to counter my influence and thought that Zelda was my best partner, thus should've been #2 on your list. If your choices are you number one, your number two, and no lynch, you don't no lynch her. Now that I'm looking back it looks like a way to look town and transfer responsibility of the Zelda lynch onto me

Tbh thinking back now, the only reason that Zelda differed from others was because you made it so

 

[toadsworthy]

Punchy you can replace for jt i guess

 

[Biancasbotique]

what happened here?

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sorry Zelda you got lynched I would have preferred the other inactives. So Is Heyden replacing Antonio, and Punchy is replacing JT? are there other changes? need to keep up.

 

[Geoni]

Yeah, I was thinking about it. Brought it up indirectly multiple times with the anti-aligns argument, and when it came down to it her only valid teammate was probably Heyden, who's vote on Dragon without regard to the lynch leader definetely was the sole thing that pushed me back onto Zelda and off Dragon.



The fact that half the points in at your last wall are just comments on certain aspects or misunderstandings serve to lengthen your posts (particularly the misconception that you consider to hold that I was considering "uncaring townie" the only possibility that I was having for Zelda). The only thing that I felt that you held against me that wasn't a misconception at the end of your walls was how I treated your tinfoil me/Zelda, and how I treated JT.

However, the central point lies in that you thought that I was the only partner for Zelda. For what purpose does no lynching do, if you sus me and think that Zelda is best partner for me? No lynch still doesn't make sense regardless of how you thought about her. You either townread her, null read her, or scumread her (which you seemed to do in the context of a me/her scum team). If you wanted to counter my influence and thought that Zelda was my best partner, thus should've been #2 on your list. If your choices are you number one, your number two, and no lynch, you don't no lynch her. Now that I'm looking back it looks like a way to look town and transfer responsibility of the Zelda lynch onto me

Tbh thinking back now, the only reason that Zelda differed from others was because you made it so

See above: Dolby bolding his pushes. Like...holy ****ing **** is this just like...calculated as a push and I'm gonna rip it apart before the end of the night phase for sure. You've actually been on and off testing the viability of your pushes all game so I'm probably going to have to to case this ****.

Tunnel walls on you are thick enough for it to be a bunker, figuring out the partner comes first because that's priority given how you were able to set up the game how you wanted and made it clear with that participation in the Zelda lynch that you are, as seen above, beginning to spin the narrative that I am scum and my strategy this game is to powerwolfing, lead lynches, and try to get away with it.

You're probably going to laugh because you want to set me off like this and yeah I'm hella set off given the game state and my efforts to look at everything despite how little these new players are providing.

Gonna look at the wagons so I don't just go more ape**** on Dolby than I already am.

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Punchy you can replace for jt i guess

Thank God. Don't forget to PM the sub their role this time. :|

 

[Heyden]

Don't blame Toads my PM box was full so it was my fault to be fair.

 

[Geoni]

Forgive that this doesn't look fancy with strikethroughs and everything. I'm on mobile. But these are the votes. Going to give it a few so I don't start making a wall and thus making the post I'll need to quote a wall. Or someone could help by posting right now.

ZeldaJune

Dad (Voted ---> Unvoted ---> Voted)

Dolby (Voted ---> Unvoted ---> Voted)

Rhino (Voted)

Dragonboy (Voted)

Final total: 4

Dragonboy

Dolby (Voted ---> Unvoted)

Hayden (Voted)

Final total: 1

Jtheburger567

ZeldaJune (Voted)

Final total: 1

No Lynch

Dad (Voted ---> Unvoted)

Final total: 0

Did not vote: Jtheburger567, Bianca's boutique

Final total: 2

 

[rhinoo]

So JT was replaced with Punchy?

 

[Hyrule_Crossing]

Forgive that this doesn't look fancy with strikethroughs and everything. I'm on mobile. But these are the votes. Going to give it a few so I don't start making a wall and thus making the post I'll need to quote a wall. Or someone could help by posting right now.

ZeldaJune

Dad (Voted ---> Unvoted ---> Voted)

Dolby (Voted ---> Unvoted ---> Voted)

Rhino (Voted)

Dragonboy (Voted)

Final total: 4

Dragonboy

Dolby (Voted ---> Unvoted)

Hayden (Voted)

Final total: 1

Jtheburger567

ZeldaJune (Voted)

Final total: 1

No Lynch

Dad (Voted ---> Unvoted)

Final total: 0

Did not vote: Jtheburger567, Bianca's boutique

Final total: 2

I legit didn’t even know there was a voting thread so I didn’t vote lol

 

[Geoni]

... Forgot to add you to not voting.

 

[Hyrule_Crossing]

Oh that’s fine lol. It’s my bad anyways.

 

[Geoni]

Forgive that this doesn't look fancy with strikethroughs and everything. I'm on mobile. But these are the votes. Going to give it a few so I don't start making a wall and thus making the post I'll need to quote a wall. Or someone could help by posting right now.

ZeldaJune

Dad (Voted ---> Unvoted ---> Voted)

Dolby (Voted ---> Unvoted ---> Voted)

Rhino (Voted)

Dragonboy (Voted)

Final total: 4

Dragonboy

Dolby (Voted ---> Unvoted)

Hayden (Voted)

Final total: 1

Jtheburger567

ZeldaJune (Voted)

Final total: 1

No Lynch

Dad (Voted ---> Unvoted)

Final total: 0

Did not vote: Jtheburger567, Bianca's boutique

Final total: 2

So here's the thing, Dolby. By the time I opened the thread after getting to work I had 40 minutes left until end of day, as I mentioned. At 6:20pm I had only 40 minutes left until end of day. I not only had to do a patrol and check all of the doors during that 40 minutes but people often stop in my office to ask me stuff or report this or that. Not only that but when I make a post here I have to type it out on a cellphone keypad. Between all the work stuff, reading the posts here, and taking a while to type I had maybe 10 of those 40 minutes at best to process and re-evaluate. You know these are the types of constraints because it was brought up in one of my championship games we were discussing and I mentioned it before going to bed anyways. During the few minutes here and there during that 40, I was focusing on analysis of Zelda's new posts because that's where my first vote was and my gut was shaking my confidence in that scumread because it was correctly giving me town vibes from the tone, and you were going to be a near impossible CFD to make happen in half an hour as my other in my top two, Rhino was a Shakey #3 for me before going to bed.

So with all this considered why the hell are you trying to shade not casing JT or Dragon who were up to then in the middle of my ranking? Because I got gut town feels from Zelda and took the time to consider that maybe because of those feels another day is needed for this person to become clearer and I was spending that time weighing the validity of sacrificing a lynch for more content? Of course, I decided no to a no lynch in VALID lack of faith that certain people would start caring about the game. Instead, given they were both away from the thread at EoD and I couldn't realtime them for the sake of evaluation, how else can I determine if dragon's sheeping of Zelda was sheeping for the mislynch or contributing to a valid scumlynch? Same applies to Rhino. You in particular I would determine as bussing if she scumflipped or if you were bandwagoning a mislynch you knew the flip of on what you yourself didn't act confident about either. JT? I was thinking more about vouching for his replacement than wanting to get a flip on someone who is -extremely murky and inactive-.

This is more or less a description of the circumstances and reasonings I have scattered around already... with a few new points here and there. Hence why it's frustrating as hell given how much I was analyzing and prodding people about before...not everyone but at least some decided to finally show up in the seven hours I couldn't be around and proceeding to scumread me for not being able to do the highly unlikely feat of being able to re-weigh either JT or dragon as more scummy than Zelda and get a number changing voteswitch if I was confident enough all in that short amount of time.

If you're town you're really lacking in the amount of consideration I expect of you and if you're scum this was pushy af at just the right time with what you knew would be a mislynch.

With that off my chest, do I like how Rhino and Dragon ended up sheeping the Zelda vote? Nope, if they'd sheeped a scumflip I would have felt better. It's not a hard scumtell alone but Dragon didn't even justify his vote so that feels slightly worse. Dolby? I think he has distanced someone and I think Dragon is possible as a partner because Dolby could have stayed there and pushed it. Rhino I haven't seen Dolby significantly suspect in any capacity so he would just be playing it straightforward with him if they are partnered but both have had oppositional moments towards JT. I'd put my money in the distancing a dragonboy partner take. But it could be the Antonio slot for all I know. If he is partnered with Bianca the in-thread stances from both have been cleverly played.

*huffs*

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I legit didn’t even know there was a voting thread so I didn’t vote lol

Didn't vote for PR so this statement checks out.

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Asdfhdhsj that post was hell on Earth to make on a cellphone so Dolby casing will have to be done on my desktop when I get home in a few hours.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

okay Toads I need his role

 

[Geoni]

Dad, why'd you end up revoting Zelda btw?

Regardless, still approaching him with caution, I think of it as Town indicative of him if Zelda ends up flipping town because the situation was either 1. a reaction test or 2. If Zelda was town, he only needed to actually convince one person to switch in order for Zelda to fall behind NL

This thought was dropped fast after Zelda actually flipped. Some stuff from you on page 7 was a hard turn on how you were approaching the wagonomics in regards to me specifically, specifically the one I was set off by that I promised to rip apart. That's chore #2 after the post about Dolby alignments that I've been working on. Just wanted to bring this up though.

 

[Dolby]

This thought was dropped fast after Zelda actually flipped. Some stuff from you on page 7 was a hard turn on how you were approaching the wagonomics in regards to me specifically, specifically the one I was set off by that I promised to rip apart. That's chore #2 after the post about Dolby alignments that I've been working on. Just wanted to bring this up though.

Not gonna wall but this is simply inaccurate. This came pre-flip not post

 

[Geoni]

Hey Dolby since you're back around do you mind briefly explaining your overall progression on how you read Dragonboy? This vote definitely felt like a snapvote because I'm only finding your reasoning for moving off it not voting it to begin with but it's probably because I'm getting fatigued from the quotepiling I'm doing.

 

[Dolby]

Hey Dolby since you're back around do you mind briefly explaining your overall progression on how you read Dragonboy? This vote definitely felt like a snapvote because I'm only finding your reasoning for moving off it not voting it to begin with but it's probably because I'm getting fatigued from the quotepiling I'm doing.

Dragon vote was partly a test of seeing how Zelda would vote in response. I felt that Dragon didn’t have a very strong anti-align to Zelda (though I never stated it, there are hints in some of my statements like “rhino being the cementing vote”) and I wanted to see if she would follow or not (which following would only be indicative of town Dragon if she was scum). He also felt objectively weakest at the time because he established a thread presence with no content, different than JT that he was just afk, but that really wasn’t significant when I voted, what I wanted to see was how the scumteam would react to that if Zelda was scum

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Also wanted to see if it could get him in the thread

 

[Geoni]

Alright thanks.

Mostly done with the quotework, which in and of itself exhausted me, so I'm gonna need like an hour or so break before returning and analyzing them in more depth beyond how they pinged me.

Upon return I will momentarily ignore whatever enraging response Dolby will inevitably have to post #251

 

[Dolby]

I'm not gonna attack you on the circumstances, but I'm still gonna say that NL was a bad and unnatural decision, especially since it would have required the support of both me and Hyrule at the time. If you wanted the lynch off of Zelda, who was giving you townfeels, you would've gone for a lynch with votes already on it, especially since you weren't concerned about PR possibilities at the time

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Parents are visiting for the first time today, yay

 

[Geoni]

especially since you weren't concerned about PR possibilities at the time

...?

 

[Dolby]

...?

You weren’t evaluating or asking if Zelda was a PR. If all were regarded as equal J still think it was better to go for the shot in the dark and use an ML rather than lose it