Pokémon Pokemon Sun and Moon General Discussion

After seeing Mimikkyu's type and design and backstory i've absolutely fallen in love with it. It's definitely joining my team as soon as I encounter it. After seeing how much thought Nintendo are truly putting in the new pokemon's descriptions i'm really optimistic that Pokemon sun and moon is going to be an awesome game. I don't mean to bash on the Kalos region because i'm aware many people love that region but I think Nintendo taking a break from making Pokemon games for a while and not just rushing them out to satisfy fans has definitely had a positive effect on the designs of the new pokemon and the story of the Alola region. You can definitely tell that the pokemon team are much more inspired than they were for Kalos (in my opinion.)

XY and SM actually have had around the same amount of development time as each other. It took 3.5 years to make XY and almost exactly 3 years later we are getting SM. The thing is, when they were working on XY they had to do a complete transition from 2D to 3D games with models and animations. Considering that there were over 720 Pokemon at the time that is a pretty big transition, and that's only covering the chunk of it. Not to mention they were also working on the concept of Mega Evolution. I'd imagine it doesn't give much time towards designing completely new Pokemon with interesting lore for each one when you are focusing most of your attention and resources elsewhere.

Additionally, B2W2 were also being worked on alongside the development of XY; possibly cutting out development time and resources from XY. You could argue the same thing has happened to SM with ORAS, but the key difference is that SM is carrying over numerous assets from XY including all of the models and animations of all the existing Pokemon (which is one of their biggest assets I believe). Since SM didn't have to make the same leaps and bounds as XY, I'd imagine that it would give them a lot more time to design new Pokemon and fully flesh them out compared to XY.
 
apparently your goal is to own a gym? it says "There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokemon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island."
also "Diamond stones will be collectible throughout the region and act similarly to Mega Stones but not exactly."

apparently the leaked pictures that are shown on this video have been deleted throughout the internet, so i think they might be sorta true?
I don't really trust starter leaks, but god those are awesome. I don't dislike a single design and it's nice to see that Litten doesn't end up cutesy. If those are the actual designs it'd be the first time I actually legit like each starter.

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LOL, yeah there definitely is. I know quite a few people inrl who say gen 6 is their favourite gen.
That's bizarre, I hope they've played other gens for comparison considering how straight up childish 6th gen is.
 
X/Y laid the foundation for Sun and Moon which appears to have allowed GF to make more new mons. I've been playing since Gen 1 and Gen 6 is one of my faves just behind Gen 2. I'm excited for Gen 7 as it really seems to be delivering.
 
From Serebii-

It has been confirmed that the next batch of Pok?mon Sun & Moon information is to be released on the official sites tonight at 22:00 JST, which is 14:00 BST, 15:00 CEST, 09:00 EDT & 06:00 PDT. It's not currently known what information will be revealed at this time but be sure to keep checking back for news

I think its today, in like 1 hour and 15 minutes, but It may bee tomorrow at the same time.
 
It has been confirmed that the next batch of Pok?mon Sun & Moon information is to be released on the official sites tonight at 22:00 JST, which is 14:00 BST, 15:00 CEST, 09:00 EDT & 06:00 PDT. It's not currently known what information will be revealed at this time but be sure to keep checking back for news
Edit @ 14:02: Some new Pok?mon have been revealed: Wimpod which is Bug/Water with the ability Wimp Out, Bounsweet which is Grass with Leaf Guard & Oblivous, Comfey, Fairy-type with Flower Veil and Triage, Mudsdale which is Ground with the abilities Own Tempo & Stamina. Mimkyu keeps its Japanese name and its ability Disguise. The bear Pok?mon is called Bewear.
You can also host your own competitions on the Pok?mon Global Link

 
Sorry I kinda beat you to it :/

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Descriptions from the Pokemon website:

Bounsweet
"Because it exudes a delicious smell from its entire body, Bounsweet is popular with Pok?mon and people of the Alola region. Bounsweet’s scent has a calming effect on humans, so many people let them live inside their homes as a sort of air freshener. Unfortunately, it’s sometimes swallowed whole by Pok?mon drawn to its aroma. When running away from other Pok?mon, Bounsweet flees danger by skipping along the ground. Since its bouncy movements don’t convey to others that it’s actually in desperate flight, no one ever comes to its aid. When attacked by enemies, it drives them off by rotating the calyx on its head. The downside is how dizzy it gets afterward!"

Bewear
"When Bewear is acting in a friendly fashion, just swinging its arms around, you must never dare to approach it carelessly. It is acknowledged to be a dangerous Pok?mon, even within the Alola region. You may see warning signs posted near places it resides. When Bewear grows fond of its Trainer, it may show that feeling in a fond embrace—but the force of that hug is tremendous! Trainers must teach these Pok?mon how to restrain their strength when showing affection. Bewear may have the Fluffy Ability, a new Ability that no Pok?mon has ever possessed before. The Fluffy Ability halves the damage taken from attacks that make direct contact, but in return it also doubles the damage taken from Fire-type moves."

Comfey
"Comfey picks flowers and always carries them around. It makes a ring of blossoms and spreads oil from its body on it, which changes the flowers so they emit a soothing fragrance. It has a habit of giving these flower rings to those it’s fond of. The aroma can soothe both itself and its allies. Comfey also helps with the treatment of people and Pok?mon at Pok?mon Centers and hospitals, thanks to its aroma. When attacked by other Pok?mon, it throws its flowers at them to create an opening, and then it either flees or strikes back. Comfey can have the new Triage Ability, an Ability that no other Pok?mon has had before. With the Triage Ability, this Pok?mon’s restorative moves gain the highest priority in battle."

Mudsdale
"Mudsdale is known for its powerful body as well as its emotional fortitude, which keeps it from being agitated by anything. It never cries out, no matter what kind of trouble it’s in, and it defeats its opponents with a single powerful blow. Its legs are coated in protective mud, and the weight of this coating increases the force of its kicks. One kick, and a car is a pile of scrap! Mudsdale’s running speed is not too swift, but it has excellent power and stamina. It can carry on for three days and three nights despite dragging loads of over 10 tons! When Mudsdale gallops in earnest, the power of each hoof-clop can dig out huge holes, even in asphalt. Mudsdale is forbidden to run on some of Alola’s public roads. Mudsdale can have the new Stamina Ability, an Ability that no other Pok?mon has had before. With the Stamina Ability, this Pok?mon’s Defense goes up by 1 when it’s hit by an attack."

Mimikyu
"Mimikyu lives its life completely covered by its cloth and is always hidden. People believe that anybody who sees its true form beneath the cloth will be stricken with a mysterious illness. People in the Alola region are convinced that you must never try to peek beneath its covering. Mimikyu’s health fails when it’s bathed in the rays of the sun, so it prefers to stick to dark places. It’s rumored that the reason it covers itself with a cloth is to avoid sunlight. The rising popularity of Pikachu-styled merchandise around 20 years ago is the reason that Mimikyu makes itself look like Pikachu. In fact, this Pok?mon is dreadfully lonely, and it thought it would be able to make friends with humans if only it looked like Pikachu. Mimikyu has the Disguise Ability, a new Ability that no Pok?mon has ever before possessed. The Disguise Ability allows it to escape damage from an enemy’s attack just one time, and then its appearance changes."

Wimpod

"Wimpod have a cowardly nature and are wary of noises and sudden movements. If you approach them in a group, they’ll immediately run off. When Wimpod feel threatened, they spit out a poisonous liquid. The stench of this toxic fluid signals others that danger is near. Despite their extreme cowardice, their curiosity leads Wimpod to approach people or Pok?mon that are standing still. Wimpod eat and store anything that they find fallen on the ground. They also scavenge any garbage that’s been dropped in the sea, so they’re highly valued as cleaners. They sometimes carry pearls or other valuable items, so humans or Pok?mon like Murkrow may target them. Wimpod has the new Wimp Out Ability, an Ability that no other Pok?mon has had before. With the Wimp Out Ability, if this Pok?mon’s HP drops below half in battle, it will run away or swap out for another Pok?mon."

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We now have 25 Pokemon revealed.
 
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More new Pokemon!!! Bewear! Literally Bewear.


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I ****ing hate Bewear.

Not surprising that we have a lei for a Pokemon.

I don't like Mudsdale and since I read you're going to be able to ride Pokemon in this game, I'm convinced Mudsdale will be in some shoe-horned "you can only go to this area by riding" segment.

I don't like Mimikyu.

Wimpod could be interesting.

Bounsweet gives me Cherubi vibes.

Hyper training though? You actually get to change your IVs? That's insane
 
"In Pok?mon Sun and Pok?mon Moon, you can draw forth a Pok?mon?s power to its utmost limit with Hyper Training.

Pok?mon grow stronger by raising their levels and increasing their base stats. However, their power is still affected by the individual strengths innate to each Pok?mon. Now, with Hyper Training, Pok?mon that have grown to Lv. 100 will be able to increase their individual strengths, which has never been possible before.

With Hyper Training, you can increase the strength of the Lv. 100 Pok?mon you?ve been adventuring with!"

"Hyper Training is done by Mr. Hyper?a man who loves to collect Bottle Caps. He can be found somewhere in the Alola region. If you bring him Bottle Caps, which you can obtain in Pok?mon Sun and Pok?mon Moon, you?ll be able to improve your Pok?mon?s stats with Hyper Training."

"The Magearna you?ll be able to get will be holding a Bottle Cap, a precious item needed for Hyper Training. With a Bottle Cap, you can perform Hyper Training on any Pok?mon. Get Magearna on your team and try out Hyper Training for yourself!"
- http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/max-out-your-pokemon-with-hyper-training/



Wow, that is actually really amazing. Really looking forward to this feature in Sun and Moon, more than anything else that has been revealed so far that wasn't a Pokemon. Hopefully we will also be able to reset IVs as well, this would be helpful if Bottle Caps existed in different denominations where you can give a Pokemon only a specific amount of IVs at a time. People would finally be able to easily manipulate a Pokemon's Hidden Power type, not to mention this would be very beneficial to Trick Room sweepers that require 0 Speed IVs to be most effective. Being able to reset a Pokemons Attack IVs to 0 would also be effective against Foul Play users.

Mudsdale is my second most favorite Pokemon to be revealed so far. I mean, it has dreadlocks AND a mohawk. If that isn't cool then I don't know what is. I love Mimikyu even more now, the fact that its costume slumps over after triggering its Disguise ability is a really nice touch. Comfey and Bewear are two more Pokemon to add to the puns list, though I really don't care much for Bewear's cry that sounds like a muffled wet fart. I don't have too many thoughts on Wimpod and Bounsweet, though I'm glad that I am not the only one that is able to see the similarity Bounsweet has with Cherubi.
 
My guess is that Bottle Caps are as expensive as an Ability Capsule or more. Even so, it'll be insanely worth it. Only having to breed for moves, abilities (to an extent) and natures.




I don't like Mudsdale simply because it'll be in some shoe-horned riding segment.
 
Mudsdale is the 3rd heaviest Pokemon according to the Sun and Moon website! 2nd is Groudon and heaviest is Primal Groudon!
 
I plan on getting Moon version but.. I hope we can just trade older Gen pokemon to it easily. I like Hoenn/Johto too much
 
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