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Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh is dead aged 99

Death is hard but it's part of what makes life so special.
99 years is definitely a win for him though, any of us would be lucky to live that long.
Would be a lot easier to live to 99 when you have money though. Princess Diana's death was the real tragedy (died at 36 from a traffic collision)
 
I'm not a royalist but I have found Prince Phillip’s death quite sad as it's the start of the end of an era in history and the royal family. Queen Elizabeth II has lost her husband of 70 years and their children, grandchildren and great grandchildren have all lost a huge figurehead and character within their family.

Grief is still grief no matter who you are in life and we should all be respectful of that, now is not the time for jokes or memes to suddenly start making the rounds on the internet and social media like I've seen in the last 24 hours.
 
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Personally, I was no fan of his based on comments he'd made in the past (and my general apathy towards the royal family tbh). And I was really glad for Channel 4 and on-demand TV/Netflix etc., because BBC and ITV just wiped all their schedules and showed nothing but the news from the time it was announced yesterday. You'd think he was the king.

That said, I do feel for those who are mourning. It's never easy to lose a loved one.
 
I hope I don’t sound cold blooded, but to me (as an outsider) it’s not sad at all, because death is part of life too. At 99 I think he had a very good run - we don’t know the reason for his passing yet but it seemed like at least he went peacefully which is really good. (My uncle had a very agonizing and slow death from cancer and it was very painful to see him suffering like that through the very end)

Of course, my condolences to the queen and the family, as no matter how one can mentally prepare for someone’s end game losing a loved one is always very difficult. But again it’s undeniable that prince Philippe had a really good life that many could only dream of. Considering the fact that he and queen elizabeth are so in love with each other (for 70 years!)and had such a wonderful and long life and family together.
 
the fact that i've been sharing, looking at and laughing at memes about his death should probably give you my answer.

the guy was a racist, said a lot of terrible things, and is (along with the rest of the royals) responsible for years of genocide and colonialism, the effects of which are still felt today. we should've abolished the monarchy years ago and i can't wait until the day we finally do. they're no better than anyone else, and the fact that almost £70 billion of taxpayers' money goes to them is embarrassing.
 
I feel for his family and Queen Elizabeth. It must be a very difficult time for them. He lived to a very old age, but death is still hard on a person's loved ones.

I haven't followed Prince Philip's life or career enough to have a person opinion about it. The majority of my knowledge comes from a smattering of articles and The Crown, which is obviously a work of fiction although there is some basis in actual historical events.
 
Midoriya said:
It is really sad and unfortunate that this happened. My great grandparents on my mom’s side were married for over 75 years, and I still can’t imagine how difficult this must be for everyone hurt by this.
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75 years? Wow. My great-grandparents through my mother were married for over 56 years (maternal grandfather's parents) and about 54-55 (maternal grandmother's parents) respectively, but I can't imagine being married to someone for over seven decades. And unfortunately, in the case of my maternal grandmother's parents, her father (my great-grandfather) had a very public affair during their marriage, which basically ruined the rest of it and my great-grandmother was the never the same...
 
Death is always hard for loved ones, and i don’t know what surrounded his death, but it may have been a relief as well. My grandma died last year at 95 and she was unable to do anything for herself in the end. She was alive but i wouldn’t say that she was living. And my mom had the hard job of taking care of her alone and seeing her deteriorate. It’s still hard on my mom sometimes as you can never prepare for your parent’s death, but 95 and 99 are long lives to have lived.
 
Rika092 said:
I hope I don’t sound cold blooded, but to me (as an outsider) it’s not sad at all, because death is part of life too. At 99 I think he had a very good run - we don’t know the reason for his passing yet but it seemed like at least he went peacefully which is really good. (My uncle had a very agonizing and slow death from cancer and it was very painful to see him suffering like that through the very end)

Of course, my condolences to the queen and the family, as no matter how one can mentally prepare for someone’s end game losing a loved one is always very difficult. But again it’s undeniable that prince Philippe had a really good life that many could only dream of. Considering the fact that he and queen elizabeth are so in love with each other (for 70 years!)and had such a wonderful and long life and family together.
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His death seems to have seems to have been caused by simply old age. And at 99, it makes sense why.
 
I think it's sad for the family (and I guess fans) but I don't think it's sad in general. People die and if you die at 99 and shared a life with a loving family you're one of the lucky ones.

Deaths that I think are actually sad in general are those that die to young or die (feeling) unloved.
 
I feel sorry for the family of course because losing someone is never easy but personally I don't care, I've never kept up with the royal families happenings.

I am however curious in whether this change is going to push the queen to abdicate in the near future although a lot of news sources seem to be saying that won't happen.
 
daringred_ said:
the fact that i've been sharing, looking at and laughing at memes about his death should probably give you my answer.

the guy was a racist, said a lot of terrible things, and is (along with the rest of the royals) responsible for years of genocide and colonialism, the effects of which are still felt today. we should've abolished the monarchy years ago and i can't wait until the day we finally do. they're no better than anyone else, and the fact that almost £70 billion of taxpayers' money goes to them is embarrassing.
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I'd like to add something: even though I like to keep up with the British royal family (even though I'm actually American), as also having been the OP of this thread I do not mind if posts here contain comments critical of the United Kingdom's royal family. In all honesty, in my original post I largely refrained from making a comment of my own that would be critical of Prince Philip in order to pay respects for his death (I will admit that in this sense, the UK and the United States differ culturally, I know she wasn't a member of the royal family, but I know that a lot of negative attention, for instance, was placed in the UK on Margaret Thatcher's actions when she was prime minister after she died in 2013), but while admittedly I don't know much about his early years of his life nor the actions he undertook in his early years while his wife served as queen (since his wife, Queen Elizabeth II, ascended to the throne all the way back in 1952, after the death of his father-in-law, George VI), there's a lot of ugliness that I learned about Prince Philip in terms of what has happened in recent history, arguably especially in terms of what has happened in the last few years of his life.

While I haven't talked about these matters that are grievances of mine about Philip's actions during the later years of his lifetime with anyone here on TBT, my boyfriend and I follow with events surrounding the UK's royal family extensively (and my BF is older than me, so he's been arguably doing so for a longer period of time, in fact, while I'm 21, it's only been for about two years thus far, starting in 2019, that I've really payed a lot of attention to the British royal family, mainly due to the fact that it was around the time that Prince Philip's granddaughter-in-law, Meghan Markle, was late in her pregnancy with his great-grandson, Archie Mountbatten-Windsor. Of course, Prince Philip had infamously made headlines just a few months before Archie's birth where he, at 97 years old, caused a car crash. I'm sorry, but royalty or not, I find the idea of a 97-year-old man still driving ridiculous. Perhaps I'm biased because, for instance, my grandma gave up driving when she was 85 (she was about a month and a half away from her 86th birthday when she did so in 2016), but I still don't see any rational basis as to why a 97-year-old man should still be driving. Hell, Philip was still spotted driving on private roads around Windsor even after this crash took place in January 2019 and he gave up his driver's license-while fortunately no one was killed, it was still ridiculous. (It should also still be noted that the driver and a passenger in the other car that Philip hit when this crash happened in 2019 were still injured to the point that they both had to be hospitalized) This car crash Prince Philip had caused was still early enough in the year in 2019 that it was prior to when I began extensively looking up the royal family that I didn't find out about it when it actually happened and I only learned of it recently prior to his death, although it wasn't much later that I began researching the British royals-only a few weeks after this car crash, in February of 2019, I saw a PBS documentary about Prince Philip's sister-in-law Princess Margaret (released roughly on the day marking the 17th anniversary of Margaret's death in 2002), and that's basically when it began, continuing now over two years later. Yes, Meghan's pregnancy with Archie further emboldened it, but it mainly had to do with the fact that I was in awe about the lifestyle Princess Margaret lived-which is not only why Princess Margaret was so controversial, but it arguably is part of the reason she really wasn't that old at the time of her death in 2002-she was only 71, and this was mainly because, unsurprisingly due to her partying lifestyle, Margaret frequently drank, and she was also a heavy smoker. Around the mid-'80s her health had already begun to deteriorate, which is seen in how she actually had part of her lung removed in a surgical operation in 1985.

The other controversy I was going to bring up about Prince Philip from roughly the latter quarter of his life that damaged my view of him in certain ways, even if I still nonetheless find his death sad, have to do with other comments and errors he made (on accusations Philip faced of racism, I have wondered if that factored into why Meghan and Harry ultimately decided to leave the royal family last year and have of course since left the UK for Canada and later the US, as with how Meghan Markle is African American, it's pretty clear that the British press did in the least give Meghan harsh treatment after getting married to Prince Harry in 2018 on the basis of her race until she made the decision with her husband to leave the royal family just over a year, approaching a year and a half ago), these are some other sore points that damage my view of Prince Philip, personally (again, I do not want anyone thinking that my bringing these up means I think he deserved to die or anything, death is something I would never wish on anyone):

In 1981, Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer (Charles of course being Philip's son, and Charles being Harry's father and Archie's grandfather, and Diana the respective mother and grandmother of the two) were set to get married in July of that year after Charles had proposed to Diana in February and she had accepted. However, on both Charles and Diana's ends, both sides had considered walking out on the wedding ahead of when it took place in early-mid 1981 between their engagement and the wedding day. I'm not sure about why Diana had considered walking out on the wedding in 1981, but on Charles's end, his reasoning was because, in large part, he couldn't get over his old girlfriend Camilla Parker Bowles, who as we know, later became Prince Charles's second wife after the marriage to Diana ended in a divorce in 1996 (Prince Charles and Princess Diana had already separated in 1992), and this was despite the fact that at the time, Camilla was a married woman-she and her first husband, Andrew Parker Bowles, were still married at the time and had been since 1973. (Camilla and Andrew didn't get divorced until 1995, a year before Charles and Diana did) In fact, in 1979 and 1980, Charles had already been having an extramarital affair with Camilla, in large part as his married ex-girlfriend comforted him after the assassination in the summer of 1979 of his great uncle, Lord Mountbatten, by the Irish Republican Army. In Prince Charles's defense, this short-lived affair with Camilla ended in 1980 when he began dating Diana in November of that year, but the issue here was that Charles had serious trouble getting over an ex-girlfriend of his, even if she was a married woman. Anyways, where Prince Philip as Prince Charles's father comes into play with this is that Philip told his son who was having doubts about the wedding that, after five years, if the marriage with Diana didn't seem to be working out, Charles could go back to Camilla. Supposedly Prince Philip didn't think that Prince Charles would take these words seriously, but he did-in 1986, Charles's marriage with Diana had basically broken down and Prince Charles used this as an excuse to restart his affair with Camilla Parker Bowles, and if you do the math, 1986 came five years after 1981. In Philip's own defense, I don't think he intended for his son to start having an extramarital affair after the son got married himself, but Prince Philip's encouragement of his son cheating on the woman who became his daughter-in-law is honestly pretty awful, even if it wasn't meant literally, and these can be blamed for being the circumstances as to why not only did Charles and Diana's marriage fell apart in the '80s and '90s, but could be considered why Diana is dead, having been (as already mentioned by Firesquids) killed in a car crash in Paris in 1997 when she was just 36 years old-the two reasons being for this are, for one, as Princess Diana's marriage with Prince Charles failed, she began seeking other relationships (and of course, she was in the car on that day of her, August 31, 1997, with her new boyfriend Dodi Fayed, who was also killed in the crash), and also, a big reason Diana was in this fatal crash in 1997 was because Henri Paul, a man drunk by over twice France's legal limits, was able to drive her had to do with the fact that due to Diana's divorce from Charles a year earlier in 1996, she lost the title "Her Royal Highness"-an act insisted by both Prince Charles and Prince Philip ahead of the divorce in 1996-in fact, Philip actually sent Diana letters in 1995, a year before she got divorced from Charles, stating that she deserved to lose her title. (Philip also made a similar insistence about another former daughter-in-law of his, Sarah Ferguson, as she got divorced from his middle son Prince Andrew, and Sarah in turn also lost her title with her divorce from Andrew in 1996, the same year Diana and Charles got divorced) What's almost heartbreaking to know is that Princess Diana's son, Prince William (who of course is second-in-line to the throne after his father, Prince Charles, and is Prince Harry's older brother) promised that when he became king, he'd return his mother her title, and yet unless it can be done posthumously, I can't see how it can be done since it was only a year later that Diana got killed...

My main issue with Prince Philip, aside from his 2019 car accident, has to do with the fact that in my opinion, his behavior about Prince Charles and Princess Diana's marriage was appalling. Also, with how Harry and Meghan recently left the royal family, and also how Prince Andrew has recently been scandalized due to his ties with billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, which were revealed around the time of Epstein's death in 2019 and soon afterward caused Andrew to be forced to step back from royal duties (with Philip's wife and Andrew's mother, Queen Elizabeth II, being the main catalyst as to why this happened in 2019), especially as it was revealed Prince Andrew, in 2001, had gone to Jeffrey Epstein's infamous island and apparently was involved with underage girls. Even if I pay a lot of attention to the British royal family, there is so much drama surrounding them nowadays that I do, in many ways, find it hard to sympathize with them.
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deanapants said:
I feel sorry for the family of course because losing someone is never easy but personally I don't care, I've never kept up with the royal families happenings.

I am however curious in whether this change is going to push the queen to abdicate in the near future although a lot of news sources seem to be saying that won't happen.
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I've wondered this too. She already surpassed her great-great grandmother, Queen Victoria, to be the longest-reigning British monarch, since like I said, she's been Queen since 1952. In all honesty, regardless of whether or not Queen Elizabeth II abdicates or dies fairly soon (she's 94 and turns 95 in a week and a half, it's pretty obvious she won't be alive for much longer), I imagine that the royal family will only be further surrounded by controversy as rumors are abound that if Queen Elizabeth were to abdicate or die, the throne would obviously be going to her son, Prince Charles-who already is tainted by controversy as it is due to the tragedies that plagued his marriage to Diana (and how he was the one who cheated on her first, with Camilla, who became his second wife), and also how rumors are abound that Charles would be keen on making Camilla be queen, which almost no Brits nor anyone else in the Commonwealth wants. There's a reason, after all, that Camilla is the royal family's most unpopular member.
 
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