Project Café — CONFIRMED BY NINTENDO!

[Tyeforce]

I have a Wii Charging Station, two in fact, both of which no longer charge properly. As for rechargeable batteries I've always found they last much less of a time than normal batteries which is really frustrating when you're playing a game.

Either way, with rechargeable solutions for the wii you are required to stop playing the game until your wiimote is charged back up, unlike the PS3 controller where you can just plug it in. For this reason alone I just stuck to normal batteries, which is expensive.

My Energizer induction charger is still working just fine. You probably got crappy ones. My first charger was a crappy Nyko charge station that overheated my Wii Remotes. That's why I don't buy Nyko products anymore, lol. Energizer is a good brand and their charger is very well made. And you're right about rechargeable batteries not lasting as long, which is why I stopped using them in favor of a charge station.

Though, assuming you have more than one Wii Remote, charging shouldn't be an issue at all. Leave all your Wii Remotes on the charge panel when you're not using them, and if one dies on you, pause the game and swap it out with another one. It takes 10 seconds to do and requires hardly any effort from you.

 

[Jas0n]

My Energizer induction charger is still working just fine. You probably got crappy ones. My first charger was a crappy Nyko charge station that overheated my Wii Remotes. That's why I don't buy Nyko products anymore, lol. Energizer is a good brand and their charger is very well made. And you're right about rechargeable batteries not lasting as long, which is why I stopped using them in favor of a charge station.

Though, assuming you have more than one Wii Remote, charging shouldn't be an issue at all. Leave all your Wii Remotes on the charge panel when you're not using them, and if one dies on you, pause the game and swap it out with another one. It takes 10 seconds to do and requires hardly any effort from you.

So I'm looking at ?20 for a charging station and ?20 for an extra wiimote, plus the money I spent on the broken chargers, rechargeable batteries and all the normal batteries. That's more than what it would cost for a single rechargeable wiimote that Nintendo could have easily created.

Yes, not everyone would be in my situation but I'm willing to bet plenty of people have gone through tons of batteries, rechargeable batteries and wiimote charging stations. Not to mention broken wiimotes from faulty charging stations.

 

[Vex L'Cour]

So I'm looking at ?20 for a charging station and ?20 for an extra wiimote, plus the money I spent on the broken chargers, rechargeable batteries and all the normal batteries. That's more than what it would cost for a single rechargeable wiimote that Nintendo could have easily created.

Yes, not everyone would be in my situation but I'm willing to bet plenty of people have gone through tons of batteries, rechargeable batteries and wiimote charging stations. Not to mention broken wiimotes from faulty charging stations.

All in all the Wii is good....just not very cost effective.

 

[Liquefy]

Then buy rechargeable batteries or a charging station...simple as that. I'm surprised that so many people don't have rechargeable AA batteries in their house already! Batteries are necessary for so many things, it's just common sense to have rechargeable ones on hand nowadays. A dedicated Wii Remote charging station is even better, though.

I agree, though it took the purchase of a Wii before we made the decision to turn to rechargeable household (Energizer) batteries.

 

[Vex L'Cour]

I agree, though it took the purchase of a Wii before we made the decision to turn to rechargeable household (Energizer) batteries.

My Dad wouldn't. Dunno why.

 

[Tyeforce]

So I'm looking at ?20 for a charging station and ?20 for an extra wiimote, plus the money I spent on the broken chargers, rechargeable batteries and all the normal batteries. That's more than what it would cost for a single rechargeable wiimote that Nintendo could have easily created.

Yes, not everyone would be in my situation but I'm willing to bet plenty of people have gone through tons of batteries, rechargeable batteries and wiimote charging stations. Not to mention broken wiimotes from faulty charging stations.

Um, your math is a bit off there. Charging stations run about $20-30. Wii Remotes cost $40. If Nintendo were to release a Wii Remote with a built in rechargeable battery, it would probably cost $60+, given that the PS3 controller has a rechargeable battery and costs $15 more than a Wii Remote ($55) even though it has less technology in it. So, let's say $60 per Wii Remote at minimum. Buying three extra rechargeable Wii Remotes would cost you $180 plus tax, whereas buying three normal Wii Remotes and a charging station would only cost you $140-150.

Also, I'm talking in US Dollars, not British Pounds or whatever you were using. Same outcome, though, just with different numbers.

 

[Jas0n]

Um, your math is a bit off there. Charging stations run about $20-30. Wii Remotes cost $40. If Nintendo were to release a Wii Remote with a built in rechargeable battery, it would probably cost $60+, given that the PS3 controller has a rechargeable battery and costs $15 more than a Wii Remote ($55) even though it has less technology in it. So, let's say $60 per Wii Remote at minimum. Buying three extra rechargeable Wii Remotes would cost you $180 plus tax, whereas buying three normal Wii Remotes and a charging station would only cost you $140-150.

Also, I'm talking in US Dollars, not British Pounds or whatever you were using. Same outcome, though, just with different numbers.

Basically all technology in England is more expensive, hence my prices.

Besides, you failed to include all the stuff I mentioned.

 

[Psychonaut]

Um, your math is a bit off there. Charging stations run about $20-30. Wii Remotes cost $40. If Nintendo were to release a Wii Remote with a built in rechargeable battery, it would probably cost $60+, given that the PS3 controller has a rechargeable battery and costs $15 more than a Wii Remote ($55) even though it has less technology in it. So, let's say $60 per Wii Remote at minimum. Buying three extra rechargeable Wii Remotes would cost you $180 plus tax, whereas buying three normal Wii Remotes and a charging station would only cost you $140-150.

Also, I'm talking in US Dollars, not British Pounds or whatever you were using. Same outcome, though, just with different numbers.

"given that the ps3 controller has a rechargeable battery and costs $15 more than a wii remote even though is has less technology in it"
"even though it has less technology in it"
"it has less technology in it"
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
this is what tye actually believes

in short, i think the only way a wii would honestly cost less than a ps3/xbox would be if you don't buy more than 3 controllers/nunchuks, and you don't use regular batteries.

also, on the topic of "it's common sense to use rechargeable batteries now because everything uses them", nintendo's handhelds have been using rechargeable since the GBA SP, as i'm sure you're aware.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_tr...echargeable+battery&_sacat=See-All-Categories
that is an off-branded game boy micro battery. i've bought a backup for my micro at about the same price, maybe less. a rechargeable battery would not cost exactly $20, and i'm sure that nintendo wouldn't lose many consumers, as now they have the plus of "the batteries are rechargeable!" like every other console has.

there is honestly no reason that nintendo should not have a rechargeable battery in the wii mote. the sync button could be placed differently, and they could have had a removable battery pack.

@ jason not being able to play the wii while charging, that comes with the wiimote's design, and that it's a motion-based controller. the ps3 is still a gaming controller at it's core, since it is shaped like the ps2/1 controller basically, so it's natural to have a wire to begin with. a wiimote with a wire coming out where the nunchuk plugs in would be awkward to play.. since you'd either need a really long charge cable, use little motion control, or face away from the tv/console. lol.

still, a charging dock and nintendo-branded rechargeable battery, EVEN IF IT WAS SOLD SEPARATELY, would not only save the consumer money in the end (say, one month down the road), but might even build nintendo a reputable fanbase.

oh wait. it's just a battery.
so why didn't they do it, if it's just a battery.

edit: and while you're off defending nintendo, would you care to explain why the nunchuk and wii remote were sold separately? cuz i mean.. i'm confused about that. seems kinda redundant to buy two controllers. meh.

 

[Jas0n]

@ jason not being able to play the wii while charging, that comes with the wiimote's design, and that it's a motion-based controller. the ps3 is still a gaming controller at it's core, since it is shaped like the ps2/1 controller basically, so it's natural to have a wire to begin with. a wiimote with a wire coming out where the nunchuk plugs in would be awkward to play.. since you'd either need a really long charge cable, use little motion control, or face away from the tv/console. lol.

still, a charging dock and nintendo-branded rechargeable battery, EVEN IF IT WAS SOLD SEPARATELY, would not only save the consumer money in the end (say, one month down the road), but might even build nintendo a reputable fanbase.

oh wait. it's just a battery.
so why didn't they do it, if it's just a battery.

Yes but a lot of wii games don't require that much movement, the only ones I've played that require intense motion control are the sport ones, the others are just simple wrist flicks and such. A wire wouldn't be disruptive here.

 

[Psychonaut]

Yes but a lot of wii games don't require that much movement, the only ones I've played that require intense motion control are the sport ones, the others are just simple wrist flicks and such. A wire wouldn't be disruptive here.

kay, but how long would your charge cord need to be to sit comfortably somewhere and still be able to play?

unless you have it in your room and on a desk or something, it would be hard to not need a long cable. say.. 6 feet at least?

edit: thinking about that, that's about as much as a regular controller.. i dunno. if it was usb, it'd have to come from the back of the console to the back of the controller facing you. dunno. i think that would feel awkward, and be very prone to some kind of hilarious mishap.

/rickshaw

 

[Jrrj15]

If all this is true it sounds like it will be awesome!

 

[rafren]

It would be cool if we could use the DS/3DS as a controller instead of buying one. :0

 

[Tyeforce]

Why are we arguing about the Wii Remote's lack of a rechargeable battery, anyway? It has nothing to do with the topic. >.>


Anyway, here's something that I'm sure some of you will enjoy hearing...
http://wiihdrumors.com/more-evidenc...-the-next-grand-theft-auto-as-a-launch-title/

I could care less, however. I hate GTA.

 

[rafren]

I could care less, however. I hate GTA.

This. I don't get the fun in robbing people and killing hookers. :/

 

[AndyB]

This. I don't get the fun in robbing people and killing hookers. :/

That may be what most people do, but that isn't all you can do. Epsecially with the later ones you can do alot more on the side of side missions and general fun!
But I can understand why it isn't to some people's taste.

 

[Tyeforce]

So many new rumors, I don't know what all I should post... Keep an eye on the first post of this thread, as I'll continue to update it. *goes to update now*

 

[crazyredd45]

i hope that it is true as it sounds awesome

 

[Tyeforce]

New stuff is in bold.

The Console

• Next-generation Nintendo console
• Supports 1080p HD
• Will surpass Xbox 360 and PS3 in graphical capability
• Backwards compatible with Wii games and accessories
• May also be backwards compatible with GameCube games
• May support Blu-ray discs
• CPU is custom IBM PowerPC with three cores
• GPU should be an ATI from the R700 family, with a shader unit at version 4.1
• RAM should be at least 512 Mb
• Codename is Project Caf?

The Controller

• Controller features a 6-inch touch screen display
• 2 shoulder buttons, 2 trigger buttons, dual analog sticks, a D-pad, and possibly more
• Built-in front-facing camera
• Supports streaming content from the console
• Motion control that's "better than PlayStation Move"
• Contains IR technology similar to the Wii Sensor Bar
• Mirrors GameCube controller in general function but not in specific form

General Information

• To be released in 2012
• Nintendo to officially announce it later this month, and show it off at E3
• Third-party developers already have dev kits and are currently working on games for launch
• This includes Square Enix, Capcom, Sega, Konami, Activision, Rockstar/Take Two, Electronic Arts, Namco and Ubisoft
• Retro Studios was one of the first developers to receive a dev kit, and are working on "a project everyone wants [them] to do"
• Grand Theft Auto 5 may be a launch title
• Pikmin 3 may be pushed to the new system, possibly a launch title
• Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid games are also in the works
• A new Star Fox game is also in production
• An engineer who was responsible for the PS3's Cell CPU and RSX GPU is working with Nintendo on the new system
• Nintendo is researching tracking systems and head-mounted stereoscopic displays, though this doesn't mean that such technologies are going to be used in Nintendo's new console
• Nintendo is looking to hire a new engineer to improve the online functionality of their systems, likely to revamp their online system for the new console

 

[AndyB]

Just saw this picture surface. And I'm not too sure how legit this looks as it is. Just to add something, these are potential leaked pictures.

Spoiler

 

[Biochao]

Just saw this picture surface. And I'm not too sure how legit this looks as it is.

Spoiler

Is that Animal Crossing in those pictures?


Anyway, I would prefer they do something like Sega did with the Dreamcast VMUs and have a removable screen that acted as a handheld game of its own when not in the controller.