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Hello everyone. I'm staying until this mafia game is over because Prin can't find a replacement.
I would like to call out several people here.

1. Cory
Cory has been following Superpenguin everywhere. He hasn't been posting much of his own and pretty much did whatever Superpenguin did. I find this really suspicious, as if he is trying to hide behind Superpenguin as mafia or maybe they're scum buddies?
2. Superpenguin
Minties made some good points against him before. I have a feeling he might be scum, but a lot of people aren't taking this game seriously so I would like to analyze his posts more / give him a chance to defend himself before coming to a definite conclusion.
3. FireNinja1
He hasn't done much this game. He has improved because he's occasionally posting but I think that since all of our attention is focused on strong players, this is a good time for middle-ground players to slip by as mafia.
4. Kit
How can we forget Kit?!?! She caused quite a large distraction in AC Mafia beginning days, and she certainly shouldn't be forgotten here. I know she's still sort of new and she has been improving this game by posting less spam, but I'm keeping her on my radar.

I also want to ask Trundle why to vote for iLoveYou. I am slightly suspicious of all replacement players because that makes me think that their role might be important...it could be blue or red.
Since we have no more doctors [and one of the blue roles is actually red] our remaining blue players need to choose their actions carefully. I encourage the DT to PM a trusted player about who they checked up last night, or at least post in the thread and imply the role of a player.
Speaking about the blue role being red, since Flop our doctor died [:(], who is the blue/red role then? Sheriff?

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I think Kayla is town aligned and I don't understand why Trundle is so confident to lynch her.
 
Hello everyone. I'm staying until this mafia game is over because Prin can't find a replacement.
I would like to call out several people here.

1. Cory
Cory has been following Superpenguin everywhere. He hasn't been posting much of his own and pretty much did whatever Superpenguin did. I find this really suspicious, as if he is trying to hide behind Superpenguin as mafia or maybe they're scum buddies?
2. Superpenguin
Minties made some good points against him before. I have a feeling he might be scum, but a lot of people aren't taking this game seriously so I would like to analyze his posts more / give him a chance to defend himself before coming to a definite conclusion.
3. FireNinja1
He hasn't done much this game. He has improved because he's occasionally posting but I think that since all of our attention is focused on strong players, this is a good time for middle-ground players to slip by as mafia.
4. Kit
How can we forget Kit?!?! She caused quite a large distraction in AC Mafia beginning days, and she certainly shouldn't be forgotten here. I know she's still sort of new and she has been improving this game by posting less spam, but I'm keeping her on my radar.

I also want to ask Trundle why to vote for iLoveYou. I am slightly suspicious of all replacement players because that makes me think that their role might be important...it could be blue or red.
Since we have no more doctors [and one of the blue roles is actually red] our remaining blue players need to choose their actions carefully. I encourage the DT to PM a trusted player about who they checked up last night, or at least post in the thread and imply the role of a player.
Speaking about the blue role being red, since Flop our doctor died [:(], who is the blue/red role then? Sheriff?

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I think Kayla is town aligned and I don't understand why Trundle is so confident to lynch her.

We can let the vig (Robin Hood I think) to kill kit anyway she is a huge distraction from what I have observe in previous game. DT did you investigate SP last night?
 
2. Superpenguin
Minties made some good points against him before. I have a feeling he might be scum, but a lot of people aren't taking this game seriously so I would like to analyze his posts more / give him a chance to defend himself before coming to a definite conclusion.

It should be known that Minties' evidence was complete bull****. She called me out solely to how I responded to her asking me if I am mafia. She says there is a "usual, accepted response." But where did she discover this response from? Did she ask all the players in the game and then deemed my answer and different from the rest? Or did she only ask me, and then just didn't get the "correct" answer and decide to accuse me.

There was only 2 Mafia KP last night, so I am still waiting for a vig to step up. Unless the Poisoner did their role or something which I am still confused on how that works.
 
We can let the vig (Robin Hood I think) to kill kit anyway she is a huge distraction from what I have observe in previous game. DT did you investigate SP last night?

I actually disagree. Kit could be a blue role and we could never know, we already lost Flop. I'm going to give Kit a chance to step up and prove herself. Meanwhile I'm looking at Cory as well as Trundle/iLoveYou.

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It should be known that Minties' evidence was complete bull****. She called me out solely to how I responded to her asking me if I am mafia. She says there is a "usual, accepted response." But where did she discover this response from? Did she ask all the players in the game and then deemed my answer and different from the rest? Or did she only ask me, and then just didn't get the "correct" answer and decide to accuse me.

There was only 2 Mafia KP last night, so I am still waiting for a vig to step up. Unless the Poisoner did their role or something which I am still confused on how that works.

That's true, there were three kills last night. I don't think a vig would shoot so early though, so it's probably the poisoner.
But why would mafia shoot Lithia of all people? She's a weak player and probably one of their least concerns...it might be a vig shot.
 
I actually disagree. Kit could be a blue role and we could never know, we already lost Flop. I'm going to give Kit a chance to step up and prove herself. Meanwhile I'm looking at Cory as well as Trundle/iLoveYou.

Gee, you're just looking at everyone, aren't you? Why don't you actually make a solid case against someone instead of putting your support behind lynching everyone in the damn game.
 
Gee, you're just looking at everyone, aren't you? Why don't you actually make a solid case against someone instead of putting your support behind lynching everyone in the damn game.

My cases are listed in order, my main case is against Cory.
Not necessarily accusing Kit, I just wanted to call her out to make her post. She's trying to improve but being strangely quiet which makes me suspicious. Plus, I like to bring out names so some of you guys can put out opinions / remember that they are actually playing / pay attention.

I'm thinking of voting for Kayla since Trundle is so confident. He led us to lynch Jawile before but this time he said that if she flips town we can lynch him. I want to hear his evidence but it's probably good since he's risking himself for it.
 
My cases are listed in order, my main case is against Cory.
Not necessarily accusing Kit, I just wanted to call her out to make her post. She's trying to improve but being strangely quiet which makes me suspicious. Plus, I like to bring out names so some of you guys can put out opinions / remember that they are actually playing / pay attention.

I'm thinking of voting for Kayla since Trundle is so confident. He led us to lynch Jawile before but this time he said that if she flips town we can lynch him. I want to hear his evidence but it's probably good since he's risking himself for it.

I think the whole Kayla lynch is a complete joke made by Trundle. He did say that he was going to play jokingly "but still find scum." If Trundle was truly set on lynching Kayla, he would've posted evidence against her or made it seem convincing a rolecheck on her had returned red. None of that happened, so I don't even consider lynching Kayla today a good idea.
 
That's true, so why are we keeping Trundle around if he's just making jokes and stuff? I also think that Kayla is a very defensive player and likes to make a lot of occasional long posts here and there. Both seem out of character this game.

Can someone new who hasn't posted put in their opinions?

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*who hasn't posted after the night post
 
Dolby wasn't the bus driver/carriage driver? XD

No, it's just a hunch. Either Superpenguin or iLoveYou.

tbh I don't particularly feel good about hunches of yours. You kept having hunches of me being scum in IRC mafia today and they were wrong every time. Do you have ANYTHING that can convince me?

That's true, so why are we keeping Trundle around if he's just making jokes and stuff? I also think that Kayla is a very defensive player and likes to make a lot of occasional long posts here and there. Both seem out of character this game.

Can someone new who hasn't posted put in their opinions?

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*who hasn't posted after the night post

Sorry, I've been meaning to post. I don't want to lynch Trundle though, even if he is making jokes. He's a good player. And he tends to find scum.
 
iLoveYou is mafia. Vote for her. If she ends up not being mafia, you can all kill me. Just bandwagon with me on this one.

Trundle has specifically said in IRC that he intends to create chaos in this game. I suggest that we all DO NOT follow his lead. I want to see what iLoveYou's thoughts are on SP's reaction.

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It should be known that Minties' evidence was complete bull****. She called me out solely to how I responded to her asking me if I am mafia. She says there is a "usual, accepted response." But where did she discover this response from? Did she ask all the players in the game and then deemed my answer and different from the rest? Or did she only ask me, and then just didn't get the "correct" answer and decide to accuse me.

There was only 2 Mafia KP last night, so I am still waiting for a vig to step up. Unless the Poisoner did their role or something which I am still confused on how that works.

Wow you seem to be a little aggressive, considering if my evidence it "complete bull****", you'd have no reason to be this upset. You've never responded that way before, why would anyone that was actually town do that? It just makes them look scummy because you're basically saying that I have to question your alignment.

Gee, you're just looking at everyone, aren't you? Why don't you actually make a solid case against someone instead of putting your support behind lynching everyone in the damn game.

Holy **** SP. While you may think it's stupid that I claimed my roleblock, I really don't in this case. I think it helped us find some red today. You're hyper defensive and angry, lashing out at people that are accusing you. Usually scum tend to do that when they're backed into a corner. Instead of being an ass to everyone, tell me why we shouldn't lynch you today?

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Also, Lithia was shot in order to frame me, considering I was the only one that had words with her. Painfully obvious framing, step up your game mafia.
 
@Minties the second SP quote was directed at me, not you.

Okay, so let me repeat this. If Trundle plans to create chaos then why should we keep him here???
Right now there's a Minties vs. SP thing going on which I hope continues a bit longer so I can look at both of their posts.
I believe Cory isn't contributing much and hiding behind SP.

Again it's up to you guys if you want to sacrifice and lynch a strong player this early on. It comes down to whether as a group you feel like you can pick out scum from a bunch of active people vs. inactive people [Yes - I am back to my lynch inactives advocating].

We need the DT to speak up or at least PM a trusted player to actually have a lead. Right now all we have as evidence is a bunch of jokes, BS, salt, and more jokes.
 
Wow you seem to be a little aggressive, considering if my evidence it "complete bull****", you'd have no reason to be this upset. You've never responded that way before, why would anyone that was actually town do that? It just makes them look scummy because you're basically saying that I have to question your alignment.


Holy **** SP. While you may think it's stupid that I claimed my roleblock, I really don't in this case. I think it helped us find some red today. You're hyper defensive and angry, lashing out at people that are accusing you. Usually scum tend to do that when they're backed into a corner. Instead of being an ass to everyone, tell me why we shouldn't lynch you today?

Taking out the Trundle and Lithia bits, irrelevant to what I want to say.

Superpenguin is acting like pallycake in Mafia 7. You're right, he does seem backed into a corner. Acting out, lashing at people, and most importantly, not suggesting anybody for lynch. He's not providing a lynch candidate. Pally didn't either. It looks like he doesn't want to point fingers. The thing is, he was aggressive in Mafia 4, and he flipped either townie or miller, I don't remember which. That said, I would definitely want to hear more from him.

I want to look at Cory too. He's quiet, hiding and what does this remind me of? His actions in Mafia 7.
 
I'm thinking of voting for Kayla since Trundle is so confident. He led us to lynch Jawile before but this time he said that if she flips town we can lynch him. I want to hear his evidence but it's probably good since he's risking himself for it.

Trundle doesn't seem confident. He's taking a risk on me + his own life. If I get lynched, I will flip Town. Then what? He wants himself to get lynched for being wrong. He's most likely Town aligned too then? A Mafia player probably wouldn't make this gamble as they would actually know I am Town aligned. Then again, he could be playing like this AS Mafia to kinda make us feel "oh if he were Mafia why would he do this"? I don't think he would openly admit to causing chaos if he were Mafia .. but reverse psychology?

Anyways.

Karen in particular is actually rising on my suspicion list though. Not because she was so willing to vote for me, but because she's getting tied in with Trundle a lot this game. She's too willing to follow in his lead, just like Cory is blindly following Superpenguin right now. The problem here is if we assume Trundle is Town then why is she following him?

On Day One she used Trundle as her reason to place a vote on Jawile.

Since Jawile has so many votes already in such little time, I guess it's time for everybody to hop into Trundle's bandwagon.

The thing here is that Superpenguin actually started the attack on Jawile. I felt like this post was made in case we looked back on Day One votes, we would be led around to Trundle after reading why you voted. Now you're saying he seems confident and that you're thinking of voting for me for that reason .. but knowing my alignment it's really not adding up.

You seemed pretty set on getting Jawile out. I'm sure most people here knew Jawile was not going to be able to come up with an A +++ defence. So I'm sure a lot of you were happy with that easy lynch.

I also want to ask Trundle why to vote for iLoveYou. I am slightly suspicious of all replacement players because that makes me think that their role might be important...it could be blue or red.

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I think Kayla is town aligned and I don't understand why Trundle is so confident to lynch her.

I actually asked Prin to join the game before she ever asked for a replacement for him. Looking at his role, he could have easily gotten modkilled.

I haven't done anything yet to prove myself as Town aligned, but I'm happy you think that. It kinda just makes me feel though, that you may know something more.

One of these duos have to be broken up somehow. They have players following in their lead.

a) Karen -> Trundle
b) Cory -> Superpenguin

I want to see what iLoveYou's thoughts are on SP's reaction.

What I see so far is Superpenguin defending himself, not so much being defensive or aggressive. He's being put in a position of defence though so defensive / aggressive behaviour is to be expected if that's what you guys see. Of course I still believe he could be Mafia. He showed a lot of regret on the Jawile lynch on Day One after realizing there would only be one of each blue. He is always so confident in his Day One lynches (even in Mini Mafia). He's always the first to say "Yeah he can be blue, but that risk runs with everyone else". For some reason, in this game he doesn't want to take responsibility as much. Like Oath2Order said .. he's not pointing fingers at anyone. Is it because he's being put in the position to defend himself instead of attacking others? I dunno.

Can Frank the Assistant (roleblocker) roleblock twice in a row?
I'm still confused on two things too. Is Mafia KP 2 or 3? I keep thinking it's 3 because Godfather may count as one separate. You guys are making it seem like it's 2 though. So I don't know how to look at the deaths of Night One. Also, so we're still dealing with one blue role being red? So there are 5 Mafia? Sorry for the newbie questions, I'm just still really confused.

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" The problem here is if we assume Trundle is Town then why is she following him? "

What I meant here is, why is Karen so bound on following Trundle thinking he is Town the same way she is thinking I am Town. I don't know if this makes any more sense the second time?
 
In case you haven't read my last few posts, I've been suggesting Trundle for lynching. I didn't know the entire thing was a joke because I haven't been on IRC or anything, and I took his posts seriously.
I'm not following him, at first I thought he had strong evidence for you since he risked his life for it but now that I know it's a joke I won't vote for you like he did.
I am confused on Mafia KP too.

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*suggesting for lynching because a) he's not taking the game seriously b) confusing players
And how is Trundle confirmed town may I ask?
 
In case you haven't read my last few posts, I've been suggesting Trundle for lynching. I didn't know the entire thing was a joke because I haven't been on IRC or anything, and I took his posts seriously.
I'm not following him, at first I thought he had strong evidence for you since he risked his life for it but now that I know it's a joke I won't vote for you like he did.
I am confused on Mafia KP too.

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*suggesting for lynching because a) he's not taking the game seriously b) confusing players
And how is Trundle confirmed town may I ask?

No I'm not saying he's confirmed Town. I'm just saying if we assume he is Town a lot of these things aren't adding up. I know but you started off saying you thought I was Town aligned, and then you said you were considering voting for me. Trundle suggested another bandwagon for Day Two, and you were almost okay with it.

I think Kayla is town aligned and I don't understand why Trundle is so confident to lynch her.

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I'm thinking of voting for Kayla since Trundle is so confident. He led us to lynch Jawile before but this time he said that if she flips town we can lynch him. I want to hear his evidence but it's probably good since he's risking himself for it.

If he's a Town player, then he's risking Town for more Town & that's not a pro-Town thing to do at all. The reason why I think he MAY be Town is because he's willing to do this risk in the first place. Mafia know I am Town aligned and wouldn't even gamble like this. Then again, he could probably be doing this as Mafia so we clear him because we're all saying "oh he's joking".

All I'm saying is that you see two opportunities to get Town players out (Jawile & now me - and I know I am not confirmed Town to any of you yet) and you kinda just jump on it. All tying in to Trundle in the end. Yes you did change your mind and put your support in favour of lynching Trundle in the end, but what if he's Town too? You're supporting people but then saying "let's lynch them".

I wouldn't necessarily offer you to get lynched before Superpenguin, but you are rising on my list of suspicions.

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Basically my point is, I think you may be hiding a red role and you are jumping from player to player to get people lynched.
 
Yeah, to sum it up because I'm confused by this entire joke thing. The more I read it the more confused I got. Sorry :/
But I switched because I thought you were suspicious too, usually you'd post more frequently with a long wall of text so I was sort of waiting for that.
 
Frank the Assistant can do his action once each night. If he wanted to, he could roleblock the same player two nights in a row.
 
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