reverse oppression

[seliph]

Actually it is. That's why we have our own jokes, days, marches, etc.

On mobile so double quote isn't a thing but - my God you just assumed I'm Irish, which I'm not.

Way to go you two. You just proved why your whole argument is absurd.

Nah but you proved that you're one of those people who talk over people about their own cultures so thanks for that.

Comparing cultural appropriation to dying your hair, that is what's absurd.

 

[oath2order]

Actually it is. That's why we have our own jokes, days, marches, etc.

On mobile so double quote isn't a thing but - my God you just assumed I'm Irish, which I'm not.

Way to go you two. You just proved why your whole argument is absurd.

Please tell me a Red Hair Joke.

When is Blonde Day this year?

Where is the Brunette March taking place?

 

[Dogemon]

Actually it is. That's why we have our own jokes, days, marches, etc.

On mobile so double quote isn't a thing but - my God you just assumed I'm Irish, which I'm not.

Way to go you two. You just proved why your whole argument is absurd.

It's not culture. Stop making white people look rediculous. People of all colors have the ability to have all naturally occuring hair colors.

 

[Soda Fox]

It's not culture. Stop making white people look rediculous. People of all colors have the ability to have all naturally occuring hair colors.

Yeah, and people of all races with natural red hair can participate.

Are there not blonde or brunette days? I honestly haven't looked and honestly don't care if they have their own days. I don't see why they shouldn't.

Want to hear a red head joke? Why do red heads never date? Because everyone would think they're sibilings!

I'm not stepping on other cultures. I just don't see a problem with people sharing them or wanting to mimic them. If people want to dye their hair red, more power to them. If they want to say it's natural when it's not, though I'll cringe, I won't tell them they can't do that.

Edit : If it makes you upset that people want to be like you, it's your problem, not the other person's.

 

[Dogemon]

Yeah, and people of all races with natural red hair can participate.

Are there not blonde or brunette days? I honestly haven't looked and honestly don't care if they have their own days. I don't see why they shouldn't.

Want to hear a red head joke? Why do red heads never date? Because everyone would think they're sibilings!

I'm not stepping on other cultures. I just don't see a problem with people sharing them or wanting to mimic them. If people want to dye their hair red, more power to them. If they want to say it's natural when it's not, though I'll cringe, I won't tell them they can't do that.

It's not culture is the issue and YOU don't have the right to tell people to share their culture if anyone if they don't want to ESPECIALLY when it is done *disrespectfully*.

 

[Hash slinging slasher]

This topic makes me particularly salty. There is no such thing as reverse oppression because oppression is oppression no matter who is doing it. If black people oppress white people it is still oppression not reverse oppression. If white people oppress black people it is oppression. If women oppress men it is oppression not reverse oppression. If men oppress women it is still oppression.

 

[seliph]

Yeah, and people of all races with natural red hair can participate.

Are there not blonde or brunette days? I honestly haven't looked and honestly don't care if they have their own days. I don't see why they shouldn't.

Want to hear a red head joke? Why do red heads never date? Because everyone would think they're sibilings!

I'm not stepping on other cultures. I just don't see a problem with people sharing them or wanting to mimic them. If people want to dye their hair red, more power to them. If they want to say it's natural when it's not, though I'll cringe, I won't tell them they can't do that.

Edit : If it makes you upset that people want to be like you, it's your problem, not the other person's.

Hair colour has nothing to do with this and is not comparable and is not a culture. I thought you were joking but now I don't even know.

Here's the thing about the "want to be like you" nonsense: They want to look like our cultures and wear them as accessories, but they don't actually want to be part of it. White girls want to wear fake bindis at coachella but would never want to be Indian. White guys wanna wear sombreros and ponchos as a Halloween costume but would never actually want to be Mexican. White girls want to wear native headdresses but wouldn't ever want to be Native. These people want to wear the getup but wouldn't ever ever wish for the slurs, the legal injustices, the societal backlash, or the general racism that comes with actually being part of these cultures that are being ripped off. That's why you don't pick apart cultures that you aren't a part of. You want to wear it, but you don't have to face the backlash.

Obviously this is different than say, being invited to a cultural ceremony and being asked to wear traditional clothing. That is not cultural appropriation.

And once again, this is why hair colour flat out isn't comparable.

 

[Soda Fox]

It's not culture is the issue and YOU don't have the right to tell people to share their culture if anyone if they don't want to ESPECIALLY when it is done *disrespectfully*.

And you don't have the right to tell me that I can't practice, use, or do the things I like, regardless of where it came from.

By the way, if you're not British, you should probably get off the computer, and if you're not British or from the US, you should probably stop speaking English, too.

I'm being ridiculous because this argument is ridiculous.

 

[seliph]

By the way, if you're not British, you should probably get off the computer, and if you're not British or from the US, you should probably stop speaking English, too.

I'm being ridiculous because this argument is ridiculous.

None of these things are a part of culture and that's why your arguments are so pointless oh my gooooddddd

Side note she does have the right to tell you literally all of those things

 

[Dogemon]

And you don't have the right to tell me that I can't practice, use, or do the things I like, regardless of where it came from.

By the way, if you're not British, you should probably get off the computer, and if you're not British or from the US, you should probably stop speaking English, too.

I'm being ridiculous because this argument is ridiculous.

No you are right, I can't force you to do anything. But I can call you out. I can put you on blast for not only doing things that don't belong to you and you didn't ask to do by someone of that culture, but then also shrugging off people who ask you AFTER not to. That is like saying that I can't stop you from being a jerk, doesn't mean anyone is wrong for asking you to stop lmao.

 

[Soda Fox]

None of these things are a part of culture and that's why your arguments are so pointless oh my gooooddddd

Wait wait, so white is not a culture?

 

[seliph]

Wait wait, so white is not a culture?

No? Wtf?

There's German culture, Polish culture, Russian culture, Italian culture but "white" covers so many individual places you can't just lump em all into one and call it "white culture".

 

[Soda Fox]

No you are right, I can't force you to do anything. But I can call you out. I can put you on blast for not only doing things that don't belong to you and you didn't ask to do by someone of that culture, but then also shrugging off people who ask you AFTER not to. That is like saying that I can't stop you from being a jerk, doesn't mean anyone is wrong for asking you to stop lmao.

You can ask someone to not, but there's a limit to how much you should rag on someone. And certainly if physical violence enters the picture, the person doing the attacking is in the wrong.

 

[oath2order]

And you don't have the right to tell me that I can't practice, use, or do the things I like, regardless of where it came from.

By the way, if you're not British, you should probably get off the computer, and if you're not British or from the US, you should probably stop speaking English, too.

I'm being ridiculous because this argument is ridiculous.

No, you're being ridiculous because you have no argument.

Dogemon lives in the U.S. where he has the right to the freedom of speech. He DOES have the right to tell you that you can't practice, use, or do the things you like, regardless of where you came from.

What you seem to be somehow forgetting, which, how you're forgetting this is BEYOND me, is that you have the right to ignore what Dogemon is saying and just continue on practicing, using, or doing the things you like.

Side note, the invention of the computer is not a "part of one race's culture" like you're implying. *Christ*

SECOND side note, only extremist idiots claim that speaking another language is "appropriation" like you're trying to say.

None of these things are a part of culture and that's why your arguments are so pointless oh my gooooddddd

Side note she does have the right to tell you literally all of those things

Okay to be fair though, language is a major part of culture.

 

[Dogemon]

You can ask someone to not, but there's a limit to how much you should rag on someone. And certainly if physical violence enters the picture, the person doing the attacking is in the wrong.

And who sets that limit, dude? I see white girls glorifying parts of my culture on the regular and I'll stop bugging them when they stop disrespecting things that don't belong to them. You assume that most people wear pieces from cultures correctly and they DON'T.

 

[seliph]

Okay to be fair though, language is a major part of culture.

Sure but they mentioned English which was forced on most cultures and countries as it is.

And certainly if physical violence enters the picture, the person doing the attacking is in the wrong.

Nah then you just have two butt holes

 

[oath2order]

Sure but they mentioned English which was forced on most cultures and countries as it is.



Nah then you just have two butt holes

Well *fine* you have a point there

 

[Soda Fox]

And who sets that limit, dude? I see white girls glorifying parts of my culture on the regular and I'll stop bugging them when they stop disrespecting things that don't belong to them. You assume that most people wear pieces from cultures correctly and they DON'T.

First of all I'm not a dude. Secondly there isn't a set limit. It's up to the individuals involved in the dispute. If someone wants to send their time constantly ripping on sone one else for wearing dreads, whatever, it's up to that person. However as a third party I'll defend whoever I feel is getting overly harassed. And again, never physical violence, from either party.

I'm very much live and let live. If you don't like what someone is doing, go ahead and tell them to stop. But that other person should have just as much right to do what they do if it isn't actually hurting anyone. If the two parties can't come to an agreement, maybe they're better off not interacting with each other.

 

[Dogemon]

First of all I'm not a dude. Secondly there isn't a set limit. It's up to the individuals involved in the dispute. If someone wants to send their time constantly ripping on sone one else for wearing dreads, whatever, it's up to that person. However as a third party I'll defend whoever I feel is getting overly harassed. And again, never physical violence, from either party.

I'm very much live and let live. If you don't like what someone is doing, go ahead and tell them to stop. But that other person should have just as much right to do what they do if it isn't actually hurting anyone. If the two parties can't come to an agreement, maybe they're better off not interacting with each other.

Dude =/= me calling you a male, but I sure am not calling you miss/ma'am when you still think you have a right to intervene between a dispute of culture of which you are not a part of. You want people to use your culture however *you* want? Fine. But don't try and police the feelings of others because we hold value to our roots.

Edit: wanted to also note how this whole argument was about how it does hurt people, but I guess that doesn't matter unless it is physical ?\_(ツ)_/?

 

[seliph]

But that other person should have just as much right to do what they do if it isn't actually hurting anyone.

We basically just turned this thread upside down explaining how it is actively hurting people but sure Jan.

O I'm slow Doge mentioned it already lmao