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Mafia Shadowrun: Dragonfall Mafia - Town Wins!

But then you appeared more confident about the mafia team being me and Sarasa rather than Crys or Tom just a few minutes ago.
I brought it up as a possibility. If I had to guess right now, I'd say mafia team is you & Crys/Tom. But I'm not going to rule Kat out as a possible maf team member.
 
You know what. I cannot be bothered thinking about this right now.

Time to head off to sleep. I'll catch up with things sometime later and ye.
 
Sure sounds like you ruled Sarasa out when you said you needed to read me/Crys/Tom.
I said I needed to do some reading, period. Not specifically on your three. Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm inclined to believe Kat is town over you three right now because there's actually solid evidence behind her being town (the missing N1) shot, but it's not 100% proof so I'm not going to rule her out.
 
Just realized I totally forgot to mention Forek. They're in the same boat as Kat for me - solid evidence behind them being town, but not 100% (If maf had 4 members total, 3 members left, shot Ashtot & Ender N2).
 
There's even more evidence for Forek than Sarasa given that Ender came back as town to Blu, godfather is dead, and him lying about being hit and saved would be unhelpful for town at that moment in the game.

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Although you're right in that there being 4 mafia would throw that off given Forek's choice, but idk about there being 4 maf, tomorrow will likely tell but yeah...doubt that.
 
Out of curiosity, why are you fingering me for mafia? I'm interested in your read. Crys and Dad as well, to be honest I'd consider Dad and Ender to be the most pro-town of us all right now.
 
Out of curiosity, why are you fingering me for mafia? I'm interested in your read. Crys and Dad as well, to be honest I'd consider Dad and Ender to be the most pro-town of us all right now.

8 players left
2 or 3 mafia left, probs 2

from my point of view

SarasaKat - claimed to be shot n1 and mafia having three mafiosi to start with makes sense anyways
EnderWiggin - confirmed town
LaBelleFleur - possible scum
Forek - probs vig shot ashtot or claims to have but backed by enderwiggin so i trust him
Dad - possible scum
crys - possible scum
Blu Rose - detective
Tom - possible scum

that leaves you (Tom), crys, Dad, and LaBelle
our night kills will give us more clues (still have 2 KP for whatever reason? naw, it wouldn't be like justice to put in 4 mafiosi in a 15-player game)
crys is semi-inactive it'd be lynching an inactive which only ever worked on lynn105 and horus i think
so yeah that's how i'm seeing their reason why
btw is there a suicidal or depressed bad guy in shadowrun: dragonfall? never played but rly don't want a suicide bomber

tbh my scum team candidates are something like Dad and crys rn
something about dad this game reminds me of him in the Pok?mon: Colosseum game a while ago but i haven't actually gone back and checked for it because of lack of computer access throughout today
such a shame too he was the only one that actually gave me encouragement
 
Because we're unconfirmed and that's how you have to read us to appear pro-town. Of course, she's pointing a finger at one of her partners so that will be of interest to see what her reads are on each of us.
 
elaboration on sarasakat

night 1 would've seen mafia at 2kp and because sarasa claimed to have been shot whoever died n1 (pillow bunny?) would've been the other shot

ofc this could be just a false claim altogether like a gambit to gain town trust but rly i doubt it
 
If justice put a suicide bomber in the game, had it gone off yesterday...
 
JESUS CHRIST WHY THE NINJA'S SECOND TIME THIS GAME
ok i'll shut up

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i'm done
dad no
 
I honestly don't get why you're writing off LaBelle and Tom though Blu, because that's what I think the team is at the moment although it could go either way with Tom/Crys.
 
I honestly don't get why you're writing off LaBelle and Tom though Blu, because that's what I think the team is at the moment although it could go either way with Tom/Crys.

tbh i'm really not
you guys are just my... idk
like if i had to choose two with a gun to my head (referencing the rqs i never answered) then you two would be the two i picked right now
i say this with the utmost love and compassion i promise
 
It's not easy watching an uncounterclaimed detective wrongly suspect you for little explanation behind their reads, knowing they're wrong. It's not like I put in a lot of work in day 2 just to get Endless lynched (meaning I'd be bussing Endless of all people).

But I have a very distinct feeling that LaBelleFleur is mafia based on her going after Rune and (repeating Sarasa here) a bunch of small little nuances amongst what read as very calculated posts. There's like very little spontaneity in her posts. Of course that's not convincing, and she can gladly point that out when reading me, but I think what I just mentioned in that previous sentence is the reason I felt something was off about her that I couldn't point out for the first two days of the game. And then I trusted her day 3 because her reads on Rune matched mine at the time so I was a little blinded by his poor play and her good play.

As for Tom, the reason that I suspect him is because he seemed to immediately know that Dolby wasn't mafia, hence taking part in the wagon didn't look good but it looked good when he turned out to be right in what seemed to be the ability to look past what everyone else couldn't (I'll give Rune the credit for being an exception). His vote was on me as a very obvious joke later justified to be used for 'fishing', but nothing ever bit. Move on to day 2, he seemed to immediately take my side against Endless, but I think Endless was legit caught off guard and Tom knew it might not have ended well for him - that being said his reaction of seeing Endless get salty seemed to come from a genuine place (maybe it did - the shade...) and it's why I've townread him up until now. He has his real life excuses, but day 3 he returned to not having any reads on anybody and made a post about not claiming (because at the end of the day the game could be easier had not so many of us claimed and that's not hard to see).

As for Crys, I'm going to need to ISO them but they've for the entire game been against Endless since the beginning, which honestly just means one more day than Tom - one of them was bussing here though, and it's not like I can't see Endless being fine with Crys scumreading him in the thread because Endless knows he's much more powerful in terms of leading a town. Their vote yesterday also gives us some information regarding whether it's him or Tom: he voted for LaBelleFleur when as mafia it would have been much more convenient to join the majority lynching town because that's what mafia wants.

Thankfully from my point of view, 2/3 of them are very likely mafia, and the most I can do is choose who for certain was the least scummy of the 3 based on their decisions and stances, and in the context of Runeraider's lynch, Crys was the most townlike. I've let a lot of schoolwork pile up though, so I'm busy for most of the night and usually the beginning of the weak so I can't be as active as I have been - this is unfortunate because it's clear that LaBelleFleur intends on campaigning against me day 4. So I encourage you guys to really look into the choices these three have made over the course of the game and see whether or not you come to the same conclusion.

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week* not weak - it's like my subconscious is insulting my focus on schoolwork.
 
What's up with everyone suspecting Dad all of the sudden? The only three reasons I've seen is that he didn't die N2, he had meta something or other, and that he was less believable than Tom/Crys (without further explanation). Quite frankly, all of those reasons are kind of bull **** (potentially something with meta, but seriously). Fml if Dad seriously is mafia, but I'm pretty certain he's fine.

Also, quick reminder that we might not have an investigative person alive, so I'm still not fully trusting of Blu Rose yet.

LaBelle is a for sure lynch tomorrow (you still need to reply to my replies LaBelle :lemon:). I'm mad at myself about her because I should have listened to my gut feeling about her but I felt like there wasn't enough evidence. Graaah.

As for the other players...

2. EnderWiggin
3. LaBelleFleur
4. Forek
7. Dad
11. crys
12. blu rose
4. Tom

Dark green = confirmed
light green = almost confirmed
yellow = unsure about
red = SUS AF

If I had a gun to my head, I'd say the mafia team would be LaBelle/Tom. I highly doubt LaBelle and Crys would be after each other that much, and Crys was also quite against Endless. As much as Tom gives off townie vibes to me, he's the only person logically left to call mafia.
 
It's not easy watching an uncounterclaimed detective wrongly suspect you for little explanation behind their reads, knowing they're wrong. It's not like I put in a lot of work in day 2 just to get Endless lynched (meaning I'd be bussing Endless of all people).

But I have a very distinct feeling that LaBelleFleur is mafia based on her going after Rune and (repeating Sarasa here) a bunch of small little nuances amongst what read as very calculated posts. There's like very little spontaneity in her posts. Of course that's not convincing, and she can gladly point that out when reading me, but I think what I just mentioned in that previous sentence is the reason I felt something was off about her that I couldn't point out for the first two days of the game. And then I trusted her day 3 because her reads on Rune matched mine at the time so I was a little blinded by his poor play and her good play.

As for Tom, the reason that I suspect him is because he seemed to immediately know that Dolby wasn't mafia, hence taking part in the wagon didn't look good but it looked good when he turned out to be right in what seemed to be the ability to look past what everyone else couldn't (I'll give Rune the credit for being an exception). His vote was on me as a very obvious joke later justified to be used for 'fishing', but nothing ever bit. Move on to day 2, he seemed to immediately take my side against Endless, but I think Endless was legit caught off guard and Tom knew it might not have ended well for him - that being said his reaction of seeing Endless get salty seemed to come from a genuine place (maybe it did - the shade...) and it's why I've townread him up until now. He has his real life excuses, but day 3 he returned to not having any reads on anybody and made a post about not claiming (because at the end of the day the game could be easier had not so many of us claimed and that's not hard to see).

As for Crys, I'm going to need to ISO them but they've for the entire game been against Endless since the beginning, which honestly just means one more day than Tom - one of them was bussing here though, and it's not like I can't see Endless being fine with Crys scumreading him in the thread because Endless knows he's much more powerful in terms of leading a town. Their vote yesterday also gives us some information regarding whether it's him or Tom: he voted for LaBelleFleur when as mafia it would have been much more convenient to join the majority lynching town because that's what mafia wants.

Thankfully from my point of view, 2/3 of them are very likely mafia, and the most I can do is choose who for certain was the least scummy of the 3 based on their decisions and stances, and in the context of Runeraider's lynch, Crys was the most townlike. I've let a lot of schoolwork pile up though, so I'm busy for most of the night and usually the beginning of the weak so I can't be as active as I have been - this is unfortunate because it's clear that LaBelleFleur intends on campaigning against me day 4. So I encourage you guys to really look into the choices these three have made over the course of the game and see whether or not you come to the same conclusion.

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week* not weak - it's like my subconscious is insulting my focus on schoolwork.

*er-hem* if i were forced to vote one of you four it would be you or crys it's not even a suspicion it is literally the amount of time and effort i am putting into this game right now a.k.a. just a little more than tom
i mean sure i'm caught up and i don't even have to skim-read but i can't seem to retain any information about anyone, like, ok, dolby said this but he said that (completely forgetting that he said "this" and then having to reread everything again) but no red alarms go off in my head or anything like they used to
yes i know one of the worst things i can do is be unhelpful but, really, i don't think in terms of "illogical choices" like sarasa said we should, but, rather, i think in "oh i remember that from somewhere" terms. like your playstyle reminding me of you in colosseum mafia which is probably false anyways
when i have spoken up in the past it was with really stupid points except for ONCE in red revolution (notice how i used previous games' examples to get itookyourwaffles lynched) i played and maybe one other time like in the first pirate mafia where we had around three people confirmed and 1 mafia down day 2 which pretty much let iloveyou lead us to victory

but yeah so i'll gladly be a bandwagoner this game or whatever for day 4--that is, if i'm still living (what mafioso in their right mind would keep a dt alive anyways). or maybe i'll be ?ber-badass and do a present->past comparison of everyone by actually legitimately doing an iso on everyone alive (except for the two with very little or no tbt mafia history (sarasa and enderwiggin, i believe) and labelle whom i'd just compare her previous townie gameplays with what she's doing now)...

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oh noez forgot to -snip- spoiler dad's post
 
*er-hem* if i were forced to vote one of you four it would be you or crys it's not even a suspicion it is literally the amount of time and effort i am putting into this game right now a.k.a. just a little more than tom
i mean sure i'm caught up and i don't even have to skim-read but i can't seem to retain any information about anyone, like, ok, dolby said this but he said that (completely forgetting that he said "this" and then having to reread everything again) but no red alarms go off in my head or anything like they used to
yes i know one of the worst things i can do is be unhelpful but, really, i don't think in terms of "illogical choices" like sarasa said we should, but, rather, i think in "oh i remember that from somewhere" terms. like your playstyle reminding me of you in colosseum mafia which is probably false anyways
when i have spoken up in the past it was with really stupid points except for ONCE in red revolution (notice how i used previous games' examples to get itookyourwaffles lynched)

...what?

it's not even a suspicion it is literally the amount of time and effort i am putting into this game right now

Exactly why you suspecting me as one of the town's only confirmeds is unhelpuful because you're admitting to putting about 20% effort into the game. And we should think about both illogical choices/reasoning behind those choices and little meta nuances to decide on something, along with other little things like how people are structuring or typing out their posts and how they interacted with dead players. I'm not great enough to tell you how to play, but I at least know this is a good start.

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And you've yet to point out what matches to my pokemon gameplay here - if I wasn't myself but had been playing with me a lot recently, I'd say my playstyle more so matches mine in KtbC since I bussed Tom and pillow the first two days (I would have been bussing Endless here). Also kind of a stretch since pokemon was a PM game and what became my downfall in that one was Truffle catching onto my PM schemes and shooting me.

Also, the fact that you didn't even know Endless but were able to come up with your own reasonings to lynch him based on his day 1 choices show you're capable of not relying solely on meta.

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Also Blu should be dark green at this point Sarasa, they've had an entire day to be counterclaimed and that hasn't happened.

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Also, for day 4, it'd be helpful for somebody to ISO myself, LaBelle, Tom, and Crys - they are the unconfirmed players and thus are the lynch pool for this day. And if mafia can't roleblock Blu (they'd have to not have a roleblocker) then that'd be even better because it would reduce the pool by one. From my point of view, if it was a report on LaBelle, Tom, or Crys it'd mean I know for sure who mafia is, with the rare case (which is probably not the case) that Sarasa fabricated the vet role and held back one kill night 1. I reeeally don't think Sarasa did that based on me thinking I was right that Endless tried to fearkill him so if I'm wrong she's done a good job.
 
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