Mafia Shadowrun: Dragonfall Mafia - Town Wins!

[EnderWiggin]

ur scum

Your play has impressed me so far too. /s

 

[Trent the Paladin]

How often do you intend to post each day? Depends on how much I wanna crappost and distract mafia
Gun to your head, you had to Lynch 1 player off the nonexistent content so far, who do you Lynch? Dad because I want revenge for the last game we were in
There is a red button, a green button and a yellow button, which to click? RED LAUNCH THE NUKES
What's your avatar? Yukiko Amagi, best girl from Persona 4.
How much previous forum mafia experience do you have? Couple games here mostly

back to bed bye

 

[Dolby]

@Endless
How often do you attend to post each day? 3-8 per day/night cycle depending on work and school
Gun to your head, you had to lynch 1 player off the nonexistent content, who do you lynch? Ashtot
There is a red button, a green button, and a yellow button, which to click? Green, my favorite color
What's your avatar? N/A
Forum mafia experience? About 25 games

Anyway, I hope that people can start to begin to take this game seriously (*cough cough* Ashtot *cough cough* pillow bunny).

@Dad I was kinda hoping that some noob scum might latch onto option number 3 in my first post, but yeah, probably wasn't gonna happen anyway.

Anyways, g'night all

 

[EnderWiggin]

What's your avatar? Yukiko Amagi, best girl from Persona 4.

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Ftr, I'm sick and bored and doing nothing else so you'll probably see a lot of me for at least the next few IRL days.

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@Endless
How often do you attend to post each day? 3-8 per day/night cycle depending on work and school
Gun to your head, you had to lynch 1 player off the nonexistent content, who do you lynch? Ashtot
There is a red button, a green button, and a yellow button, which to click? Green, my favorite color
What's your avatar? N/A
Forum mafia experience? About 25 games

Anyway, I hope that people can start to begin to take this game seriously (*cough cough* Ashtot *cough cough* pillow bunny).

@Dad I was kinda hoping that some noob scum might latch onto option number 3 in my first post, but yeah, probably wasn't gonna happen anyway.

Anyways, g'night all

25 games and you offer no lynch? Was that a bait too? Please tell me that was a bait.

 

[Endless]

We had this discussion last game, but I still stand by my statement that RLing is much worse than NLing. With no lynch, yeah, you don't gain any information, but you don't gain much information with a random lynch either, and you lose someone in the process. In a scenario where there's little to no leads anyways, the only information we can get is who went along with the random lynch and who didn't. That tells us nothing besides potential alliances that players may have.

I say we go with a different option than the given three and try to scumhunt today. From there, we should have a better idea who to lynch.

RLing provides information in later days due to the fact that mafia will inherently give clues to their partners in the process. But you're not far off; both rling and nling are abhorrent wastes of the first day. What I was suggesting was scumhunting, just in words rather than with a blanket label.

Friggin' EnderWiggun. That is all on this subject.
Actually I lied:

Idk about you, but potential allegiance tells is great tbh.

TFW English major mucks up basic grammar.

Runeraider's entrance isn't alignment telling at all since it resembles his early content from other games. Move on. (Not defending the horror of it, merely suggesting it's irrelevant to his role.)

@Runeraider: Why don't you like RQSes?

@Ashtot: If Ender is scum why're you voting Dolby? (Or are they both red in your opinion?)

Preliminary reads are that pillow appears weak town and Dolby appears weak red.

 

[Geoni]

@Ender: I more or less wanted to bring up #3 because it was both a bad idea and the one idea on Dolby's list that was that it's the one he wouldn't recommend, but he seemed fine with the other two options. I agree that no lynching is a bad idea too, but random lynching is pretty bad as well. Then again, no lynch is truly random on forum games really.

What interests me right now is that Dolby is putting forth a lot of effort to appear town: very first post of the game (after starting) was him making a list of options that he later claimed was a post to bait new people. Do you guys think Dolby was actually baiting there or just posting for the sake of posting? If he wasn't serious in that post, then why does he still seem serious about lynching Ashtot?

Anyways, some random thoughts before I go to bed: Ashtot wants to immediately lynch Dolby for saying he or Crys should be voted for, which coming from being fellow scum with him, has me thinking he might be acting in this reaction.

The most interesting point I've seen so far in answers to Endless' questions was LaBelle's answer to the gun to the head question: Endless did this his first game here and he turned out to be scum, but hasn't done it in the other game(s?) I've played with him. Part of me thinks that the lack of enthusiasm LaBelle has in choosing Endless over anyone else is that she wants to begin a dialogue with him, or something.

Also @ Endless I should answer your questions: gun to my head, I'd lynch Dolby at this moment in the game, with the info I have. Also given the nature of my schedule I can't promise how regularly or irregularly I'll be posting. My avatar is from Ernest and Celestine and I've played around 20 or so games here, only other maf experience was on epicmafia. Green button because I hate traffic. Btw, do you know EnderWiggin? A person with a lot of experience coming out of nowhere to this forum, like you.

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Hi kids, I'm not dead, and hopefully I won't get n1ed again. It'd be great to survive to d2 at some point. Mafia, if we can make some sort of deal, that would be fantastic.

That all you got to say? Runeraider I remember usually has more to say and do on day 1 than talking to mafia lightheartedly.

 

[EnderWiggin]

@Ender: I more or less wanted to bring up #3 because it was both a bad idea and the one idea on Dolby's list that was that it's the one he wouldn't recommend, but he seemed fine with the other two options. I agree that no lynching is a bad idea too, but random lynching is pretty bad as well. Then again, no lynch is truly random on forum games really.

Perfect. That's how I figured it. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't giving you reasons you didn't have.

Btw, do you know EnderWiggin? A person with a lot of experience coming out of nowhere to this forum, like you.

You could say that. I mean:

Friggin' EnderWiggun. That is all on this subject.

This should be answer enough.

Friggin' EnderWiggun. That is all on this subject.
Actually I lied:
TFW English major mucks up basic grammar.

Says the guy who can't even spell my username correctly. (I missed a word, shush.)

 

[Endless]

What interests me right now is that Dolby is putting forth a lot of effort to appear town: very first post of the game (after starting) was him making a list of options that he later claimed was a post to bait new people. Do you guys think Dolby was actually baiting there or just posting for the sake of posting? If he wasn't serious in that post, then why does he still seem serious about lynching Ashtot?

This more or less sums up why I think they're weak mafia.

Btw, do you know EnderWiggin? A person with a lot of experience coming out of nowhere to this forum, like you.

Read justice's and Wiggin's walls.

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Wiggin isn't a real English word and I watched the movie, I didn't read the book. Therefore I have plausible deniability.

 

[EnderWiggin]

Wiggin isn't a real English word and I watched the movie, I didn't read the book. Therefore I have plausible deniability.

You literally had my username staring you in the face while you quoted my grammar mistake you clod.

 

[Endless]

You literally had my username staring you in the face while you quoted my grammar mistake you clod.

Ouch.

 

[Forek]

Sorry, haven't checked forum since this morning. So I'll answer the random questions?

How often do you intend to post each day? I check the forum every couple hours or so? So I'll probably post whenever im on.
Gun to your head, you had to Lynch 1 player off the nonexistent content so far, who do you Lynch? Not sure.
There is a red button, a green button and a yellow button, which to click? Red???
What's your avatar? fork
How much previous forum mafia experience do you have? Played a few games, but i like to observe games w/o actually being in obs or anything.

 

[EnderWiggin]

@Forek:

Do you have any prelim reads? Doesn't matter how weak they are.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Damn, everyone is acting serious D1. I'm impressed. On phone atm so I'll give replies and thoughts in a sec

 

[EnderWiggin]

You can blame Endless and I for that if you want.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Nah, that's a good thing.

Err, you DO realise that potential alliances is the most base level of scumhunting? So that's like, really good?

Idk about you, but potential allegiance tells is great tbh.

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Oh. Hey. SarasaKat.

Since you mentioned scumhunting, how about you start it off? Any reads to contribute to help us get rolling?

1) I disagree completely. The basis of scum hunting is finding when somebody makes an illogical move and you force them to explain it. Finding alliances is nice, sure, but that doesn't get you anywhere in terms of lynching someone. Illogical actions do.

Also, I agree that knowing get alliances are nice, but what makes me think NLs are better than RLs is that A) Those alliances are only potential alliances. We don't know for sure. It could also be a situation where mafians don't vote together for whatever reason (trying to WIFOM or one of them is just plain inactive), so those "potential alliances" don't provide much of a solid lead. B) We're losing a person. Randomly. It's more likely to be town than mafia, so we just lose someone for questionable benefit. So no thank you, NLs are superior, though neither situations are ideal.

2) I'd be glad to once I get home and have access to my laptop. Typing on an IPad is a *****. However, I'd argue that it definitely has kicked off.

@Enderwiggin You seem to be strongly opposed to a NL. Why?

 

[pillow bunny]

didn't realize this was a serious game. that's too bad since i suck at mafia

i agree that RL is better than NL, but it's still not very good. RL doesn't give us much info, because people will generally act the same they always do so you can't get many reads out of that. discussion can't be taken too seriously since during the day we have no idea what the lynchee's alignment is. and it doesn't really matter what potential teams are if we don't know who the mafia are. dolby is obvious scum though so who cares

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Anyway, two people i'd like to push forward for lynching today

Crys
Used to be Crystal, posts tend to lack substance unless propelled by being a lynch candidate. Weak gameplay in general

Ashtot
Potentially strong town, but is known for games with weak townplay and jokes.

Keep in mind that I haven't played tbt mafia in almost a year so things have probably changed quite a bit

he's probably bussing one of them, like why would someone who hasn't played in a year feel like they should be the one to decide who we lynch

 

[Ashtot]

Your play has impressed me so far too. /s

wow i got rekt gud

@Ashtot: If Ender is scum why're you voting Dolby? (Or are they both red in your opinion?)/QUOTE]

they're both scum

also dolby is a strong player

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Your play has impressed me so far too. /s

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Ftr, I'm sick and bored and doing nothing else so you'll probably see a lot of me for at least the next few IRL days.

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25 games and you offer no lynch? Was that a bait too? Please tell me that was a bait.

didn't realize this was a serious game. that's too bad since i suck at mafia

i agree that RL is better than NL, but it's still not very good. RL doesn't give us much info, because people will generally act the same they always do so you can't get many reads out of that. discussion can't be taken too seriously since during the day we have no idea what the lynchee's alignment is. and it doesn't really matter what potential teams are if we don't know who the mafia are. dolby is obvious scum though so who cares

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he's probably bussing one of them, like why would someone who hasn't played in a year feel like they should be the one to decide who we lynch

lol wtf dolby was putting ideas forward like anyone normally does, this does not indicate bussing. that logic is garbage

 

[EnderWiggin]

@Enderwiggin You seem to be strongly opposed to a NL. Why?

Let's put it this way, Town is guaranteed to lose someone during the night phase. Or, well, not guaranteed but likely anyway. This is going to 100% be a town. If we no lynch, we reach Day 2 with.... not much information? Cool we know one of us is town. They're dead. No PR is going to do anything unless we got something really funky.

And we've got a bunch of talking but no action to back it up. It's a LOT easier for scum to talk then to act.

I don't like RLing either. I prefer to find someone scummy and get them lynched. But some information is better than none. Therefore a random lynch would be preferable to a no lynch. Why? Because voting records are voting records. And wifoms included, that's information that helps me scumhunt.

 

[Ashtot]

Let's put it this way, Town is guaranteed to lose someone during the night phase. Or, well, not guaranteed but likely anyway. This is going to 100% be a town. If we no lynch, we reach Day 2 with.... not much information? Cool we know one of us is town. They're dead. No PR is going to do anything unless we got something really funky.

And we've got a bunch of talking but no action to back it up. It's a LOT easier for scum to talk then to act.

I don't like RLing either. I prefer to find someone scummy and get them lynched. But some information is better than none. Therefore a random lynch would be preferable to a no lynch. Why? Because voting records are voting records. And wifoms included, that's information that helps me scumhunt.

finally someone else who wants to lynch d1

 

[EnderWiggin]

wow i got rekt gud

@Ashtot: If Ender is scum why're you voting Dolby? (Or are they both red in your opinion?)

they're both scum

I cry errytime.

@Endless: You seeing the pillow!scum I'm seeing?