Mafia Shadowrun: Dragonfall Mafia - Town Wins!

[Ashtot]

Two things I'd like to address ASAP:
Why say that someone is scum and then go back and say that they're acting like how anyone normally does? Are you suspicious of him or no, and explain why.
Why do you feel the need to ask Endless alone what his thoughts on PB are?

Other thoughts: Dolby is an interesting case imo. He definitely set the serious tone today has, but other than that, he's based his suspicions off of pure meta (without even seeing posts from them yet) and gone back on his word on the seriousness of his proposals. Dad explained the suspicion surrounding him beautifully, so I won't bother repeating him, but he's definitely our best lynch candidate as of now. I'd like to hear his response to Dad's FOS, though.

Ashtot, why do you think Wiggin is scum? I'd like to hear your reasoning from when you said it on post 80.

I'm actually quite suspicious of Ender for seemingly being attached to whatever Endless says and being inconsistent (he got mad at Dolby for offering NL but not me?).

PB seems fine to me. Offering a bussing scenario doesn't seem that off the wall imo (it's what a lot of scum does), and he was sus of Dolby so he voted him.

im not going back on what i said, i still believe hes scum, i was just pointing out bad reasoning

 

[pillow bunny]

to me, Dolby just seems like town trying to seem at the start if the game, its not worth my vote. Endless' play style reminds me how he played in bravely default mafia. I will probably vote for them unless something comes up.

you're scum, your reason for voting for endless instead of dolby makes no sense

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dolby probably told her to say this in the qt

 

[Geoni]

to me, Dolby just seems like town trying to seem at the start if the game, its not worth my vote. Endless' play style reminds me how he played in bravely default mafia. I will probably vote for them unless something comes up.

Just want to note that this is very similar to the only thing LaBelle has posted, and it's also a weak reason to try and get Endless out of the way - I feel like you're ignoring a lot of the stuff people have had to say about other players or just not reading well, but this comes off as funky to me. I think Endless is too experienced of a player to not know his own meta, so you need more than just that to go off if you want to sus him imo.

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Ninja'd by pb - but I'm glad they noticed it too.

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Gun to your head, you had to Lynch 1 player off the nonexistent content so far, who do you Lynch? idk someone who hasnt posted anything.

Want to point out that their answer here seems very lukewarm in hindsight now that they're suddenly going after a stronger player on weak reasons.

 

[pillow bunny]

also wanted to point out that bravely default is the only game Crys and Endless played together

 

[Dolby]

@Dad
Not all my post was used to bait people, just option number 3 on my list. I'm serious with the proposal of no lynching (although it's not really the best option I agree, but on day 1 there really aren't any good things to do, and random lynching would give us more information for day 2). As for the Ashtot and Crys suspicions, they we're just a attempt to get the game started (because my post was the only serious post in the game at that point, so I had only meta to go off of) as I only had past experience to go off of at that point. I started to be serious with the prospect of an Ashtot lynch because he was just spamming before I went offline, which isn't suspicious in itself, but it tends to lead to him having poor gameplay and just being a distraction towards the endgame (I shot him for that in bird mafia 2), I'm glad that he's taking this game somewhat seriously now.

So posting to get the game going.

At this point, if I had to vote for someone, I would probably vote for one of the non-posters or pillow bunny because of their short, mostly non-contributive posts, getting a few scum vibes from Crys, the mafia would want to try to lynch a strong player who'll be protected early on.

 

[pillow bunny]

@Dolby I agree, Crys is scummy so we should kill pillow bunny

 

[Arstotzkan]

im not going back on what i said, i still believe hes scum, i was just pointing out bad reasoning

I'm asking why you think he's scum. All you said was "ur scum". I want reasons, is all.

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Hmm, the justifications for Dolby felt a little weak imo. It's good to kick off day, but to FOS someone off of pure meta is still a crime, even if there wasn't anything else to go off of. It just isn't the time to put down a suspicion because no one warranted one. The thing that gets me the most though is lynching someone based off of "being a distraction" compared to "he's scum". Using the whole "distraction" thing from my experience is the #1 most underhand mafian tactic to get someone unjustifiably lynched.

Is it just me, or is there quite a few people only using meta to formulate suspicions here? (Crys, Dolby, LaBelle, Ender (When Ender thought Dolby was sus because of offering NL and having been apart of 25 games, I consider that meta)). Kinda odd that it's being used so much in this game.

 

[f11]

All I was trying to say is that if Dolby was indeed mafia, I dont think they would try to start the game off so strong and bring attention to themselves. Something felt off about Endless so I tried to express it. Im not "going after" a stronger player I haven't even voted yet. I justed stated a small suspicion I had from the little information we get on day 1.

 

[Arstotzkan]

All I was trying to say is that if Dolby was indeed mafia, I dont think they would try to start the game off so strong and bring attention to themselves. Something felt off about Endless so I tried to express it. Im not "going after" a stronger player I haven't even voted yet. I justed stated a small suspicion I had from the little information we get on day 1.

If you don't mind, can you point to the quotes that you're finding suspicious? Maybe we can get a better idea of what you're saying if there's a common thread behind what he's saying.

 

[Forek]

@Forek:

Do you have any prelim reads? Doesn't matter how weak they are.

I have a few questions, along with a few reads.

1. Pillow bunny, is there a reason you think that dolby is bussing? Sure, that post was bait, according to others?

2. Dolby, what are your reads for this game?

Question time over. Ashtot seems townie-ish to me, thats what i view it imo. Sorry i havent posted much, im gonna be busy until a bit unless im gonna play on my phone.

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Meant in a bit, sorry. So is everyone going on the dolby wagon now? So a few more thoughts, Crys is trying to get Endless of of barely nothing? Thats like fos'ing me because of my question answers. I've seen their posts this game, and nothing set up red flags for me. It looks like Dolby is trying to get lynched for some reason, i mean im not sure but thats what it looks like to me. I still want their reads though.

Can't get a good read on Pillow or Ashtot, but i kinda think ashtot is town-ish. Pillow seems like they're coasting, with them almost contributing nothing in this game. Dolby reminds me of Awesomeness in the last game, trying to get lynched only to be a good role. But I don't think dolby would do that.

So basically, I dont know why crys is fos'ing endless, think that pillow might be coasting, and dolby is trying to be lynched?

 

[f11]

If you don't mind, can you point to the quotes that you're finding suspicious? Maybe we can get a better idea of what you're saying if there's a common thread behind what he's saying.

uhh I make sure ill try to before dat ends but not right now became Im on mobile.

 

[Arstotzkan]

5. Feloreena
9. LCocoaBean
12. laurenx

Oh yeah, just to keep track of stuff, these are the people who haven't posted yet today, for what that's worth. I don't think it's something worth marking them as suspicious, but it's nice to keep track.

 

[Ashtot]

I'm asking why you think he's scum. All you said was "ur scum". I want reasons, is all.

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Hmm, the justifications for Dolby felt a little weak imo. It's good to kick off day, but to FOS someone off of pure meta is still a crime, even if there wasn't anything else to go off of. It just isn't the time to put down a suspicion because no one warranted one. The thing that gets me the most though is lynching someone based off of "being a distraction" compared to "he's scum". Using the whole "distraction" thing from my experience is the #1 most underhand mafian tactic to get someone unjustifiably lynched.

Is it just me, or is there quite a few people only using meta to formulate suspicions here? (Crys, Dolby, LaBelle, Ender (When Ender thought Dolby was sus because of offering NL and having been apart of 25 games, I consider that meta)). Kinda odd that it's being used so much in this game.

i posted my reasons already, if you want to find out you can go back and read

 

[Arstotzkan]

i posted my reasons already, if you want to find out you can go back and read

Call me blind, but I can't find them.
http://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=4649577
I don't see you mention him once after you said "ur scum". You just talked about PB and Dolby.

 

[f11]

I still wont have my comp for a day or two so I'll just cite like 2 examples. For one in both he started with random questions; this time with even more random questions. At the beginning of the that game and this one he went after strong players (Dad that game and Dolby this one) I know this is nothing but this just Day 1 and there's like nothing.

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Wait, does day end today or tomorrow?

 

[EnderWiggin]

Seen I have a bunch to get to, acknowledged, now to go to sleep for a few more hours. [/end program]

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Wait, does day end today or tomorrow?

In 9 minutes it will have been 24 hours from day start.

Day lasts 48 hours.

 

[Arstotzkan]

I still wont have my comp for a day or two so I'll just cite like 2 examples. For one in both he started with random questions; this time with even more random questions. At the beginning of the that game and this one he went after strong players (Dad that game and Dolby this one) I know this is nothing but this just Day 1 and there's like nothing.

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Wait, does day end today or tomorrow?

What's inherently suspicious about asking questions, though? First off, I can see why he asked several of the ones he did (half of them were to get the person answering comfortable, the other half was to analyze some pre-stuff in their gameplay (experience, levels of WIFOM, people partnering with each other). But I don't get what's so suspicious about asking questions.

Also, what do you think about Dolby's actions in general? Not just the whole thing about him kicking off day, but the content of the posts themselves.

@Ender Have fun sleeping man.

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http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+PM+EDT+9%2F6%2F15

That's when day ends.

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@Tom Why the vote on Dad?

 

[illunie]

By EnderWiggin (sorry quotes didn't work)

"Explain pls. I have a theory for why you said this but I want to hear YOU say it."

It might surprise you, but in this world, there exists something we mortals like to name 'humor'. Don't worry, it won't hurt you, just do not anger this common beast.

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Also sorry for not being here, I was asleep.

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From Endless:

"@Runeraider: Why don't you like RQSes?"

I don't really like them since they're pretty much useless. I understand what they're for, but it would be better imo to just say 'here'.

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That all you got to say? Runeraider I remember usually has more to say and do on day 1 than talking to mafia lightheartedly.

You obviously don't remember the start of last game. I think I caused an uproar by ****posting at the start of that game too.

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...Why are so many uses lurking with hidden on...

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*users

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POST MERGE M8 U WOT

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ALL OF THE POSTS

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WOOHOO

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Also I've read everything now.

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Just saying.

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All of the chains.

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OK

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I'll stop...

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Now.

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glhf

 

[pillow bunny]

shut up

 

[Trent the Paladin]

@Tom Why the vote on Dad?

Why not vote for Dad? ( ͡? ͜ʖ ͡?)