Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

[Ace Marvel]

Yes how/who are my nemesis, and honestly don't know why, it's so hard for me writing those words. I will read again and again my posts, to stop this.
This no edit rule is killing me.

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in case a miss it again
how/who = who
how = how

bold always be who.

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In case I* miss it

 

[Seroja]

also Epona vs Dino feels town/town to me so disagreeing with Trundle.

To add to that I'm liking Dino's recent posts because she's being more proactive in pointing out things that look sus to her.

My read on Geoni: Seems to be carefully assessing everyone's posts. I like that he's not jumping at anyone even when they appear sus to him (giving them the benefit of the doubt etc). Getting town vibes but still on null to townleaning.

 

[voltairenism]

i'm still sussing antonio but want to wait for them to catch up/post before i make any decisions either way

i haven't cleared mayor leaf at all and i'm fairly null on her currently, like i said i think she's flying under the radar and is lacking consistency but at the moment i don't think she's a good choice for a lynch purely because a) i don't have enough to go off and b) if she flips town, her death isn't going to give us much insight into anybody else because she hasn't been discussed much

Yes, my first choice would be Antonio, but I can't fit mayor as a town, but if they come here and do more than point fingers it may lift my sus.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Placed a vote on Kat since I am not a fan of her posts this game and I don't think her current behaviour is helpful to the town.

 

[DinoTown]

Oops Kat vote 2 there

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Ninja'd by Trundle

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I'm still not entirely convinced I wanna vote Kat. Given Teddy's recent posts, I am feeling it's more likely that Kat/Teddy is maf/town then town/maf but I still don't think I've seen enough to vote yet. Of course, they can both post before EoD and that content might change my mind.

 

[Seroja]

I'm going to bed and will be here before EoD (which is 7am my time).

ok im trying to give you my impression. you know i am so bad at day 1 reads!

1. Trundle- i am always null on trundle- him scumreading someone on first day is not really indicative of anything but this is trundle. The last time I played with him, he was really passionate as town. I wanna see it somehow even to the point of sussing me always. Scum? only time will tell
2. epona- makes good reads- seems very townish-I do admit though that long wall posts- I get distracted so i don't really read them but scum can make long reads as well. she and dinotown are on the same wavelength
3. dinotown- we had a little bit conversation and she knows why I voted for her and she seems cool. The point about her early posts being very overtly confident as town seems towny but scummy at the same time. I cannot fully explain as there is something off about her
4. bell accont- hmmm..I've seen them makes posts but it didn't leave impression on me. Could be scum
5. mayor leaf- she reminds me of me when she voted early on. she seems townish but scum could be lurking underneath
6. seroja- Seroja will always appear towny to me unless- something happens that will make me suss of her. nothing yet so far but I am putting her as null because that's just me- paranoid
7. voltairenism- his posts seems random and just all over the place.
8. geoni- I am always scared of mafia Geoni! because he is unpredictable. He is usually helpful as town and he seems to be helping town but i dont know. His long wall posts are truly what scares me.
9. Antonio- I am always null on Antonio- he is squeaky clean this time around and he seems to be helping town but then I worked with Antonio before and he could be towny and no one would even suspect
10. Teddy345- first of all I am biased about Teddy- I can never see anything wrong with him- and his impression seems like pure-actually if i think about it-he and dinotown are on the same wavelength with their approach at things to say - but scum could be hiding behind all that
11. Arstotzkhan- Kat is very good at scumhunting-she's the mom, but she is also good scum- her initial take on Teddy- I thought that was just a town /town exchange and didnt really think of it but she could be fishing for information or setting up Teddy

Correct me if I'm wrong but you're not town-leaning or scum-leaning anyone at all in your reads list. Everyone reads as "seems town but could be scum" or vice versa for you. I'm sorry but this seems very scummy to me. I think you should have formed a solid opinion on at least one or two players by this point.

 

[Antonio]

Alright, I'm awake and I believe I am caught up unless I missed anything. Before we decide on a lynch, we have to decide what kind of information would the lynch provide because if the lynch doesn't provide much information, what's the point of lynching? I understand voting who you think is scum but we are in still in the early phrase of the game so we have a pretty big chance of voting off someone who is town.

So, I have a question for everyone! What kind of information regarding others would your vote on your sus bring that can benefit us?

 

[DinoTown]

So, I have a question for everyone! What kind of information regarding others would your vote on your sus bring that can benefit us?

I'm sorry, I'm tired and hungry and I just can't wrap my head around what you're trying to ask. Do you mind rephrasing the question?

 

[Antonio]

I have no opinions after catching besides catching I disagree with Dad, particularity on Trundle/Teddy and I don't think Bianca contributions to the game aren't helping us.

Teddy - does a lot of this veer on the edge of a tonal read? Yeah, but that's more or less a starting point for me. A lot of his posts don't really talk about other players as much as his thoughts on the game of mafia but once I hit post 192 I really felt that it was him playing his own game and getting a feel for playing forum mafia and the readslist has some agreeable takes in it, though I feel like it's in line with some of my thinking aside from the volt townread and Antonio scumread. Wacky-town read basically.

What are your opinions regarding his hesitant to contribute to the game? I don't see this in your read unless I am confused.

Trundle - I think him coming in and sinking his teeth into Dino when he did is not unjustified and shows an aggression I like at the beginning of a game: you see saw something and reacted. He's probably ninja'd me a bit as I work on this so I might ebwop this read after I take a look but last I saw him, I didn't dislike the approach he was taking because look at the discussion it produced.

Ok but you don't think Trundle reasoning behind sussing DinoTown is meta and lacks substance? He's still hooked on it btw. Don't you find weird that he called me out regarding meta but still uses meta to back up his sus regarding dino?

One thing is for sure..at least one scum is in these people..
Trundle
Seroja
Geoni
Antonio
Dinotown
Arstotzkan (Kat)

Because what is a possibility of an all newbie scum team?

How does this add anything to the game? I understand where you are coming from but you could be adding more. Your reads are filled with uncertainty so who are you most certain about?

 

[EpicGamer12]

Alright, I'm awake and I believe I am caught up unless I missed anything. Before we decide on a lynch, we have to decide what kind of information would the lynch provide because if the lynch doesn't provide much information, what's the point of lynching? I understand voting who you think is scum but we are in still in the early phrase of the game so we have a pretty big chance of voting off someone who is town.

So, I have a question for everyone! What kind of information regarding others would your vote on your sus bring that can benefit us?

it’s day one

 

[Antonio]

I'm sorry, I'm tired and hungry and I just can't wrap my head around what you're trying to ask. Do you mind rephrasing the question?

I'm asking how does your sus vote provide information regarding other people.

 

[EpicGamer12]

I have no opinions after catching besides catching I disagree with Dad, particularity on Trundle/Teddy and I don't think Bianca contributions to the game aren't helping us.


What are your opinions regarding his hesitant to contribute to the game? I don't see this in your read unless I am confused.


Ok but you don't think Trundle reasoning behind sussing DinoTown is meta and lacks substance? He's still hooked on it btw. Don't you find weird that he called me out regarding meta but still uses meta to back up his sus regarding dino?


How does this add anything to the game? I understand where you are coming from but you could be adding more. Your reads are filled with uncertainty so who are you most certain about?

I called you out for discussing who should be discussed. That is a completely different thing that using someone’s posting style from a previous game and comparing it to the current game.

 

[Antonio]

it’s day one

Yes, meaning we have a huge chance of voting off someone who is Town. How does your vote provide information on other people?

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I called you out for discussing who should be discussed. That is a completely different thing that using someone’s posting style from a previous game and comparing it to the current game.

You called me out for using meta and then you used meta. Isn't that hypocritical?

 

[EpicGamer12]

Yes, meaning we have a huge chance of voting off someone who is Town. How does your vote provide information on other people?

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You called me out for using meta and then you used meta. Isn't that hypocritical?

The words were used in two completely different ways. They aren’t the same thing at all and it’s in no way hypocritical. I said you were meta-discussing who should be discussed.

 

[DinoTown]

I'm asking how does your sus vote provide information regarding other people.

That makes more sense - will answer after I eat

 

[Antonio]

The words were used in two completely different ways. They aren’t the same thing at all and it’s in no way hypocritical. I said you were meta-discussing who should be discussed.

That's true. I did not remember that fully, I apologize. I'll take my claim back regarding the hypocritical nature. However, I still believe we should not incorporate meta this early in the phase. My question still stands regarding who you voting for.

 

[voltairenism]

My vote should show who is teaming up. I don't think towning Antonio is an AI if he flips maf, but it should give closure on who he's protecting (obvs not the people he read as town but it will give closure for the moments I feel he was drifting the current conversation)
Will you answer your own question?

 

[Antonio]

My vote should show who is teaming up. I don't think towning Antonio is an AI if he flips maf, but it should give closure on who he's protecting (obvs not the people he read as town but it will give closure for the moments I feel he was drifting the current conversation)
Will you answer your own question?

Of course, I think a vote on either Teddy/Trundle could lead to a conclusion regarding Dad because if he is Mafia, he poses the biggest threat to Town compared to anyone else in this game. I also think that anyone who slightly Town read one of them could be potential sus as their behaviors are still quite suspicious.

 

[epona]

i'm still not really convinced on lynching kat but if she's not protesting and continues to be reluctant to contribute anything that suggests we shouldn't lynch her, then i don't really see why we wouldn't. the two votes on her thus far (trundle and geoni) seem town-motivated to me so i'll be willing to put my vote on her if it comes to it.

if kat flips town i'll be casting a very suspicious eye on geoni. trundle too, but mainly geoni because he's been weirdly argumentative towards me for pretty much no reason since the beginning of day 1 and nitpicked on me asking teddy to elaborate when i thought it was pretty clear i wasn't questioning on his mixup of the words how / who. i think geoni has been a bit elusive so far and is largely being townread by people because of his meta which i'm not familiar enough with. i think a lynch on kat will be fairly AI for geoni no matter what she flips


if i were to vote on my instinct for voltairenism, i'm not sure how much information could be gleaned from their death if they flip town (apart from you all probably scumreading me for it lol)

if they flip mafia, my bet is that bianca is also on the scumteam

ok im trying to give you my impression. you know i am so bad at day 1 reads!

1. Trundle- i am always null on trundle- him scumreading someone on first day is not really indicative of anything but this is trundle. The last time I played with him, he was really passionate as town. I wanna see it somehow even to the point of sussing me always. Scum? only time will tell
2. epona- makes good reads- seems very townish-I do admit though that long wall posts- I get distracted so i don't really read them but scum can make long reads as well. she and dinotown are on the same wavelength
3. dinotown- we had a little bit conversation and she knows why I voted for her and she seems cool. The point about her early posts being very overtly confident as town seems towny but scummy at the same time. I cannot fully explain as there is something off about her
4. bell accont- hmmm..I've seen them makes posts but it didn't leave impression on me. Could be scum
5. mayor leaf- she reminds me of me when she voted early on. she seems townish but scum could be lurking underneath
6. seroja- Seroja will always appear towny to me unless- something happens that will make me suss of her. nothing yet so far but I am putting her as null because that's just me- paranoid
7. voltairenism- his posts seems random and just all over the place.
8. geoni- I am always scared of mafia Geoni! because he is unpredictable. He is usually helpful as town and he seems to be helping town but i dont know. His long wall posts are truly what scares me.
9. Antonio- I am always null on Antonio- he is squeaky clean this time around and he seems to be helping town but then I worked with Antonio before and he could be towny and no one would even suspect
10. Teddy345- first of all I am biased about Teddy- I can never see anything wrong with him- and his impression seems like pure-actually if i think about it-he and dinotown are on the same wavelength with their approach at things to say - but scum could be hiding behind all that
11. Arstotzkhan- Kat is very good at scumhunting-she's the mom, but she is also good scum- her initial take on Teddy- I thought that was just a town /town exchange and didnt really think of it but she could be fishing for information or setting up Teddy

bianca's reads are largely unhelpful but her read on voltairenism is the only one that doesn't explicitly contain the word 'scum', 'town', or both
if voltairenism flipped red, i'd be willing to call this a conscious effort on bianca's part to exclude herself from any potential discourse about her scum partner by not making a call either way

 

[voltairenism]

Of course, I think a vote on either Teddy/Trundle could lead to a conclusion regarding Dad because if he is Mafia, he poses the biggest threat to Town compared to anyone else in this game. I also think that anyone who slightly Town read one of them could be potential sus as their behaviors are still quite suspicious.

I don't know if this kind of thought is useful to us rn because a) you could be seeing trundle and geoni as a threat b) you think that people wouldnt risk geoni both because he could be a good ally for town and people still have the misslynch for last game in their minds or, in case you are town c) actually I dont think if one of them is maf you give us any closure on who is other ones, it is just good that it's one mad down. My point is that this is an infinite loop of hypothesis acrobatics and it can make anyone second guess their vote