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im still v far behind in reading but dude how did antonio not get lynched they were scummy af lol
 
Damniel said:
i think it would be like all town won’t flip from lynches. we don’t have control over it


me with this setup tbh
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so that means Kat and Mayor are town then? but wouldnt we know the mechanics before hand if it is a mechanic? I can understand if it is a town /day role but as a mechanic in general? we have to know that for sure coming into the game.

i know what you feel ..ill pull my hair out!
 
Damniel said:
how do you feel about the mayor leaf lynch and cases against her
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i havent decided yet, the power of hindsight makes me think it was a bad idea, lynching a doctor claim is usually not good and i feel bianca should have been the lynch for the day. whether or not leaf was telling the truth, im leaning towards truth. i dont think the cases were necessarily bad or anything i really still disagree with teddys read, but anything i say here is ultimately biased
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bell account said:
i havent decided yet, the power of hindsight makes me think it was a bad idea, lynching a doctor claim is usually not good and i feel bianca should have been the lynch for the day. whether or not leaf was telling the truth, im leaning towards truth. i dont think the cases were necessarily bad or anything i really still disagree with teddys read, but anything i say here is ultimately biased
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Almost as good as this one:
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And what part of my read you don't agree with?
 
bell account said:
i cant make the leap from "leaf is town reading epona but has some reservations" to "leaf is performing inception on teddy" tho the personal nature of the read makes that hard to begin with
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I think my early vote trigger this, but at the end I wasn't the only one thinking it. hating this no flip thing.
 
i was raised on flipless, let me tell you, its a different ballgame
sometimes you have to hedge against specific worlds and take specific lynch paths just to make sure you dont lose like, for example, if geo and bianca are town/wolf then we would have to lynch both of them just to be certain of hitting a wolf which is exactly as difficult as it sounds

you can also pull stuff like claiming cop and if theres a cc you have to kill both to resolve it, one time the wolves killed one of their own (not sure if thats the best play) just so that everyone would sheep their reads, and it did actually work
flipless is the wild west
 
if this game truly is only flipless lynches then is it likely that maf are aware of this?

@bell account is it typical in your flipless games that night kills still flip?
 
Well okay if the lynch is flipless and night is just ordinary , when do we see the results for the lynch? At endgame? What is the point of a flipless lunch? Just to confuse us more?
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The concept of lynching and just speculating what is the current status of the game is a headache. Are we just gonna pray and hope that we hit scum every time we lynch. We cannot even calculate the odds stacked against us.
 
Biancasbotique said:
Well okay if the lynch is flipless and night is just ordinary , when do we see the results for the lynch? At endgame? What is the point of a flipless lunch? Just to confuse us more?
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The concept of lynching and just speculating what is the current status of the game is a headache. Are we just gonna pray and hope that we hit scum every time we lynch. We cannot even calculate the odds stacked against us.
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toads said we'll find out endgame yea

one no flip is like whatever but im very much not a fan of having more flipless lynches. ive been trying to world build this whole time but its feeling pretty pointless now. i guess we do just sus individuals and hope we win in the end. that feels super unfulfilling though
 
good morning i am awake and i am still annoyed at that lack of a flip this is starting to get very frustrating
 
Damniel said:
yea but knowing the role is helpful so maf can't just fake claim with dead roles
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this is something that frequently happens in flipless
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DinoTown said:
good morning i am awake and i am still annoyed at that lack of a flip this is starting to get very frustrating
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you dont get townpants for complaining about no flip
 
i just woke up but this is a whole mess lol

i think writing the game off as flipless is maybe a bit pre-emptive, especially because seroja did flip on n1
i think we should still entertain the possibility that the no-flip is attached to roles (less plausible now that there's been two in a row) or that it's a mafia action (an x-shot janitor maybe)

i just think a game with guaranteed flipless lynches is very busy? considering there's already an infection mechanic going on

i'm inclined not to believe mayor leaf's claim though, if she was scum and knew she wouldn't flip then doctor is an extremely easy role to claim, especially because she wouldn't tell us who she protected night 1 because apparently that's a 'scummy' thing to ask, which it isn't really, because if her protection had done anything to frustrate a scum action then they'd already know who she protected

fakeclaiming seems like a last-minute attempt to shift votes back onto the bianca wagon, especially because seroja is dead and couldn't counterclaim
 
If it is a case of someone has the role to wipe, they have to be an x-shot or this game would be way way way too scum-sided with infection going on as well, even if the infection is being done by a third party.

I'd earlier thought it might have made sense for the janitor to have the ability to wipe 1 lynch and 1 night kill since that sounded relatively more balanced than literal infinite wipes - I still think that amount of wipes sounds fair, I was just wrong that they were limited to 1 wipe per type of death. If they did have 2 wipes, then they would both be used by now. If we see another wipe D3, that's when I'll be getting worried about the game purposefully being flipless.
 
DinoTown said:
If it is a case of someone has the role to wipe, they have to be an x-shot or this game would be way way way too scum-sided with infection going on as well, even if the infection is being done by a third party.

I'd earlier thought it might have made sense for the janitor to have the ability to wipe 1 lynch and 1 night kill since that sounded relatively more balanced than literal infinite wipes - I still think that amount of wipes sounds fair, I was just wrong that they were limited to 1 wipe per type of death. If they did have 2 wipes, then they would both be used by now. If we see another wipe D3, that's when I'll be getting worried about the game purposefully being flipless.
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I have to agree with this, it will be really one sided that way. Also why used both their wipes this early if that was the case?
 
Teddy345 said:
I have to agree with this, it will be really one sided that way. Also why used both their wipes this early if that was the case?
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to frustrate town/prevent worldbuilding for as long as possible would be my best guess
 
i have a strong feeling whoever the scum is, they're aware that the last two lynches wouldn't result in flips. since this second no flip, im honestly less engaged now since my worldbuilding isn't helping. but if scum knew these no flips from the start, i also think maf wouldn't be as engaged with lynches this whole time (as long as it wasn't them why care who it is). before EoN ill post the top 2 people I think should be lynch D3. there's like 2 null reads i have but im honestly just getting genuine town vibes from everyone else. who those are ill share later uwu
 
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