pls stop minimodding
Still waiting for a legitimate answer (TBT is a dictatorship)
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pls stop minimodding
also adding to this because i cant be bothered waiting another 12 hours for a response...
1) "Your warning was meant to be marked as "Report Abuse" not mini-modding" - Not being rude, but that isn't fooling me. It's quite obvious I was warned for Mini Modding, and then once you (as in staff, not you specifically), realized you were wrong, you changed it to report abuse. I'm not that dumb.
2) From the bell tree direct which mentions the report abuse rule;
"Abusing the Report system can now earn you an infraction. We define abuse as spamming reports or abusing our moderation team with disrespectful comments in reports."
- Abusing the report system counts as spamming reports or abusing the moderators - i for sure did not abuse moderators. You could say that I did spam reports, but as I mentioned in my other post, it contradicts what I was told by Andy, I saw each report as rude and negative, so I reported them. Let's go back to our trusty little forum rules!
"If you disagree with someone, please do so in a dignified manner and refrain from using personal attacks."
"Posts that contain solely "Lol", "This", GIF/image replies, or other short remarks are usually better suited for chatrooms than forum discussions."
The reports I made, I personally do not believe that the poster I reported was posting in a "dignified manner", and if my memory serves me correctly, they most certainly were not contributing to the topic being discussed (and if you want to argue that they were contributing, they were doing so in a very negative way, which is I don't see as contributing), and they most certainly were not lengthy remarks either… so I reported each of their posts which I saw in violation of that rule. And with that, that also cancels out is being a demand or unnecessary report, as well as sarcastic, because sorry I didn’t feel like writing up something to explain why I was reporting it (as I said, I figured it branched off my first report), when it should be self explanatory why it was reported in the first place, and I’ve got more reports to make which actually need explaining than explaining something which should already be obvious, as well as other things to do with my life, so sorry that I didn't spend a few minutes explaining why I would report something when I thought it would be self explanatory... And even still, I don’t see how writing ‘omf’ or ‘omg I am so done’ is sarcastic because it was really obvious that it was connected to the first report, so how can it be sarcastic. Sarcasm would be reporting something like ‘yes I know so why don’t you … instead of …’ or making a completely stupid report reason just because I can…
” In fact, there were several reports you had made right before this one that either were rude: Or were non-descriptive and/or unnecessary:”
1) there was nothing in your explanation or “report abuse” that said you can’t make rude reports (and I don’t see how that is 100% rude, sure its snarky, but can’t you tell I’m getting sick of the constant negative posting and nothing seems to be done?) – it was only said that you can’t be rude to moderators
2) I already said why they are not unnecessary as I believe they branch off the first report.
3) not related but kinda is, I have made reports like that since forever, and I honestly don’t remember ever getting a PM from before this rule was implemented telling me not to do stuff like this…
Again, from the rules "We ask that you follow our guidelines in order to keep The Bell Tree an enjoyable environment for everyone." - constantly making negative posts does not create an enjoyable environment, which is why I reported them, and which is why I reported them with little to no effort explaining why, because i) they are literally self explanatory, and ii) I am sick of seeing constant negative posts by said user... So no, out of the two things that were listed in the new rule announcement, I do not believe I was spamming reports, or abusing staff members, nor was I doing any of the other things which are listed on the forum rules.
Argue your point across all you want, but it was blatantly obvious that I first received the warning for "Mini Modding" and then once you realized that that was a stupid reason, it was quickly changed to "Report Abuse" with a bull **** reason.
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doesnt the title "minimod" or "moderator" require me to actually care about the forums?
Should be like some other forums and warn/ban people for martyrship posts. "I might get warned/banned for this" should be an auto-warn/ban
I feel like Kaiaa has well explained the whole situation thoroughly, I don't understand why there is still a debate concerning this matter. If I've well understood, the warning was given because of 'excessive' reporting.
and if you read what I posted, I did not excessively report anything... And like I said before, it's so obvious this warning was originally for mini modding but then they were like "oh **** we ****ed up better scrape something else up" and changed it to that...
More reasoning as to why this isn't excessive reporting, Mod in question said I reported "10 posts" in the said thread when I literally reported one... There is a big ass difference between one and ten...
I'll explain. Jake.got a warning and the reason was that he was 'mini-modding' even though he only reported the users who were going off-topic and was not contributing. The staff then created a new rule saying that spam reports are not allowed, but Jake. Was given a warning for 'mini-modding' before they created the new rule. So Jake. wants to know why he was reported for 'mini-modding' even though he was not. He was reporting people for breaking the rules. That's what I understand so far.
well the rule for 'report abuse' was already in place when i made the report. But I reported the image post and then I got a warning for 'mini modding' and then they changed it to 'report abuse' because they 'mistakenly' gave me a warning for the wrong thing... and now they are saying i spammed reports and abused the report button when i have clearly justified within my posts that i have not dont any of that...
Oh I understand now. They gave you the wrong warning and changed it to 'report abuse', it was a mistake when they put the reason as 'mini-modding'. They gave you a warning not because of your report concerning the quoting of an image, but for your other reports which Kaiaa listed. They weren't well formulated and the staff must have thought that reasons of your reports such "omg I am so done" are inappropriate when reporting, hence why they though it was "report abuse". This is what I basically understood.
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I am with Lassy on this one. I see no fault in the mods/admins/whoever on this one. They gave you the warning for the 3 or more reports you did with stuff like "omg I am so done". You are making it seem like they are all out to get you and this is all some kind of conspiracy.
Actually, no it was supposed to be for report abuse. I'm not afraid to admit that it was me who suggested it. It was a mistake to give one for mini-modding. That particular report was not supposed to be warned on for mini-modding. You can over think it all you want. The mod in question didn't know we had a new infraction level to choose from on the warnings page and so used the one they were already familiar with. This particular warning came to you because a moderator was already dealing with the situation, was stressed enough, and felt your report unnecessary along with the other three shown before. Whether you think so or not, that was their decision. I am in agreement that it should not have been for mini-modding, however, I do believe you deserved one for report abuse.
I will be asking Jer if we can make an amendment to the Rules about report abuse to go into further detail of what report abuse is so that people aren't confused about it anymore. The rules aren't completely specific, this gives a little leeway for the moderators but I can see that it needs to be changed.
I will be asking Jer if we can make an amendment to the Rules about report abuse to go into further detail of what report abuse is so that people aren't confused about it anymore. The rules aren't completely specific, this gives a little leeway for the moderators but I can see that it needs to be changed.
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debinoresu
you foolish fool
I think I understand how there was report abuse, ypu were giving bad reasons like "omg I am so done." and in the report abuse rule it says not to do that.
Though I have seen a lot of rudeness from mods and the laughing about it with other people isn't okay.
Though I have seen a lot of rudeness from mods and the laughing about it with other people isn't okay.
Yep ^
This could have all been sorted out on the PM system, not brought to the attention of everyone on here for no reason.
One word posts are considered as spam? If you read the rules, post quality too? A post with actually depth wouldn't be classed as spam. One word posts usually are "lol" "ok" "yeah". They make no contribution to the thread. If im wrong sorry but that's what it is to my understanding. The mods to a great job, that's coming from someone with various warnings and infractions, one including mini modding.
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Rules say that you shouldn't make one word replies, and that you should at least try to make a quality post.
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