Ayyy, I had a busy day yesterday or I would've commented on all of this yesterday so sorry about that.
To rehash again, no meta isn't the ENTIRETY of mafia. You're missing my point here. I'm not saying it's not a useful tool to help find people, but that isn't the go to above all reason someone is scum. Therefore people don't need to just justify their cases against you too with "oh, and your meta from Xeno/other games is off," or "you're acting like you did in Trump."
So, you want non-meta reasons for me thinking you're scum? Fine, let's get into those.
First, your vote on Ashton and sus of oath isn't following how you're treating the game now. You say one of the main reasons you placed that vote was because Ashton voted without posting in the thread and that's scummy. You also sus read oath for the same reason, but guess what? Someone else did that this day cycle, why are you not voting for him or at least calling him out for it? After my case on you, Cory voted for you without saying anything about it at all. So why then, does Cory get a pass on this but Ashton and oath don't? If you're going to take a stance on voting or calling someone out for voting without saying anything, why haven't you addressed Cory once since his vote?
So you wanna talk about more votes on scum? Okay, let's go over mine. Day 1 I wasn't comfortable enough to vote for anyone since I hadn't done enough research to make a case against anyone to vote for them. I voted Tom to save Trundle (as I stated in the thread) and because entropy made a good case on him (which I also stated). Heyden didn't seem scummy to me, and entropy made a good enough case for me to sus Tom. You however, had a big change of heart in 6 minutes. At 11:53 on voting night you wrote this:
Chrystina said:
holy ****
well, i'm still keeping my vote on ashtot. I'm not comfortable voting for Tom while he's away and I'd like to give hayden day 2 to convince me he's town.
But yet, at 11:59, one minute from lock, you voted Tom. It's not like your vote was game changing because by that point Tom had majority by over double the person behind him in votes. If you're so uncomfortable about voting for Tom while he's away, why then would you vote at 11:59 when he's double the votes ahead of the person behind him? This was your defense of your vote at 12:16
Chrystina said:
in my defense I really hate switching my vote last minute, even though day 1 I always end up doing this. My vote on Ashtot was doing nothing and if meant me not switching my vote was going to get the JoAT lynched (didn't realize this until literally the last minute), that's why I did it.
So you didn't see until last minute, but at 11:56, Minties posted an updated votes list where Tom had double the votes of his next person, so you could've easily seen that Trundle would've been fine and kept to your opinion of not voting Tom while he was gone. Guess who else voted for Tom after that updated votes list? Tae, and basically everyone in this thread thinks tae is scum. Looks like to me you guys cut your loses and voted him last minute to blend in.
Gonna rehash on this:
entropy said:
7. everyone that susses you died. Crys, Sataric, Kat, etc, I'm pretty sure everyone besides Jacob but honestly I haven't read back I'm just going off memory
Since you wanna bring up past games, remember that time in Trump I told Panda anyone who remotely sus'd her had died and she said the point was invalid? That's exactly what you're doing here. I made sure to go back and check each will, or the persons most recent reads post I could find. The only people who didn't sus read you at some point, was Kat snd Jacob, and they nulled you. This point is entirely valid, because it wasn't just a Crys frame. Either someone is hell bent on framing you, or there isn't a coincidence here.
And really? This is the most town-lean thing I've done all game? Because I've made 3 different cases, pushed shiida for answers, speculated the scum team and so far have 2 right, and ever since I started caring I've been scum hunting. I started trying near the start of Day 2, go back and look, the ONLY person who was sus of me was you. I was nulled to basically every other player. I wouldn't call that much of a pressure when no one made a case against me and you said one of my quotes looked weird. You say I never did a Tardis case, which again, is wrong information. It was a weak case and pretty rushed, but I did in fact do one so stop saying wrong information about me. You can see it at post #1415 in the thread. So if you're going to say I'm not contributing, at least make sure I haven't followed up on what I said I would do before you blame me for not doing it because that's the second time you've been wrong.
Chrystina said:
Why are you excluding this one? since it's the most detailed?
the only one that changed from then was tardis and tae as I was null on them both. and then when I actually went through tae's posts, I changed my mind completey about him, hence the "pretty sure all of us are sus of tae as of right now."
...Are you serious right now? You said wrong information about your own will reads lol....Tardis is listed as scum lean and tae is a town read on the quote you posted. How do you misinterpret your own will? You say Dolby is missing your current reads and quote your will, since these were reads you started Day 3 with but then say wrong information about your own will. If I'm missing something here, please let me know.
Believe me, I haven't forgotten about tae, even if he has just like abandoned this game. Stop trying to divert attention from yourself though, because it's your favorite tactic like I pointed out in my original post against you. We have a flipped Detective, Doc, Vet, in theory (but highly unlikely) two Vigs, a JOAT, and now you want us to believe there's 2 Vets? That sounds really unbalanced.
