Mafia TBT Mafia III: The Murder Before Christmas [Game Over/Town Win]

[Hikari]

Hikari is who I’m most suspicious of.

His candidacy got shot down due to his lack of confidence and making no promises. Maybe he didn’t want to make promises because he knew he wouldn’t have been able to keep them. He’s known to slip up because what happened in the previous game: role-claiming as a miller. He was being very careful to not say anything that he could be accounted for in the future. And made a general speech of what every mayor or sheriff would do at their minimum.


One hour later, VillageDweller runs for Mayor.

Twenty minutes later:


A day later, VD doesn't look too promising, so he decided to jump onto the Trundle train.

Day one lynch:

Karla posted his suspicions on a few people early in the game and Klinkguinwas one of them:
“I erroneously stated that he didn't vote. His vote doesn't give much information - it took place when Trundle was already leading by a good margin. Not giving a reason is annoying. Could be scum just jumping on the easy vote. Equally could be disinterested townie wagoning.”
Fifteen minutes later, of the people listed, Kikari has no problem jumping on calling Kinkguin(VETERAN) the most scummy when there were plenty more people under suspicions and still early in the game.


Trundle put in his first lynch vote for FoxWolf a minute before he needed to put his vote in. Not the best reasons to lynch someone, he seemed more after the person himself than his actual role, but either way it was a huge hit and miss with anyone. A few minutes later Hikari has no problem with agreeing to the FoxWolf(TOWNIE) lynch.

And afterwards gave no remorse for the lost townie.

I don't know why everyone is so angry for... it's better to get out a annoying townie, rather than a more important blue role.

And then we get down to the VillageDweller(GODFATHER) lynch.

“Hm… Okay I think I HAVE TO vote for VD”. Really? The case against VillageDweller was the most solid case given in the game at the time. The other times you were more than happy to jump right in and get them out of the way. But with all the evidence back up against VD, that’s when you get hesitant?

At first, I thought VD would serve as a god mayor, since he was willing to personally help people. However, I noticed that Trundle would serve as a better canidate, since he was the only one to acutally get a mafia player out via lynch last game, so I voted for Trundle. Also, when I said I have to vote for VD for the lynch, I meant that the evidence was so good, that it was a no-brainer. Plus, if I really was mafia, I would have defiantly slipped up by now. Also, sorry that I've been inactive, I've been doing last minute Christmas shopping.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Opps, quote fail...

- - - Post Merge - - -

Also, now our elected officals are at risk since both bodyguards have been killed...

 

[Superpenguin]

My suspicions remain on Kippla:
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...tmas-(DAY-4)&p=2073887&viewfull=1#post2073887

Tbh, the evidence against Tina is lacking. It's almost like we all have to have some blind faith in Karla on this lynch if we choose Tina. I wasn't on Mumble for these supposed conversations he has said they had, and I am not involved in their out-of-thread communication circle.

FML I shot Chris.

We are in LYLO. There was someone who recently started joining the Mumble. They gently pushed me towards Creeper and Klinkguin. I fed them inaccurate information. They thought they were roleblocking the Detective last night.

Tina is Mafia.

It does you no good to hide stuff from the rest of town at this point in the game. It appears it has only worked once with the lynch on VD. Up to this point is practically a repeat of what happened last game! What "inaccurate information" did you feed to Tina, and what did she do with it? At least tell us enough to where you don't put any roles in danger.

At first, I thought VD would serve as a god mayor,

I don't know if this was a slip-up or what, but to me it seems like you almost meant to say "godfather."

 

[KarlaKGB]

It does you no good to hide stuff from the rest of town at this point in the game. It appears it has only worked once with the lynch on VD. Up to this point is practically a repeat of what happened last game! What "inaccurate information" did you feed to Tina, and what did she do with it? At least tell us enough to where you don't put any roles in danger.

I slipped who the Detective was, and that person got roleblocked. Leaving the real DT to check Tina.

Tina is Mafia.

 

[Superpenguin]

I slipped who the Detective was, and that person got roleblocked. Leaving the real DT to check Tina.

Tina is Mafia.

But this detective you told Tina wasn't the real detective right? You were just playing her, it wasn't even a Detective at all?
I don't want to get any false hopes of there being two detectives left in the game.

Now there seems to be a solid case against Tina, and I'm trying to decide between her or Kippla.

 

[KarlaKGB]

But this detective you told Tina wasn't the real detective right? You were just playing her, it wasn't even a Detective at all?
I don't want to get any false hopes of there being two detectives left in the game.

Now there seems to be a solid case against Tina, and I'm trying to decide between her or Kippla.

You seem to be awfully confused about what is really a simple situation.

 

[Superpenguin]

You seem to be awfully confused about what is really a simple situation.

I found your wording vague.

I slipped who the Detective was.

 

[Hikari]

My suspicions remain on Kippla:
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...tmas-(DAY-4)&p=2073887&viewfull=1#post2073887

Tbh, the evidence against Tina is lacking. It's almost like we all have to have some blind faith in Karla on this lynch if we choose Tina. I wasn't on Mumble for these supposed conversations he has said they had, and I am not involved in their out-of-thread communication circle.



It does you no good to hide stuff from the rest of town at this point in the game. It appears it has only worked once with the lynch on VD. Up to this point is practically a repeat of what happened last game! What "inaccurate information" did you feed to Tina, and what did she do with it? At least tell us enough to where you don't put any roles in danger.



I don't know if this was a slip-up or what, but to me it seems like you almost meant to say "godfather."

I meant good, no god. My computer froze when I typed that, so I guess it left out a "o".

 

[Chris]

I slipped who the Detective was, and that person got roleblocked. Leaving the real DT to check Tina.

Tina is Mafia.

Firstly, I have no idea who the detective is: neither who it really is; nor who you seem to think I think it is. Either you're lying to them or I missed something.

Secondly, if a detective checked me then you've no reason to push me: you'd know that my death isn't going to help town. I'll wait until I've a proper keyboard before explaining my thoughts on this later.


I'll read up on the Hikari case later before giving my opinion.

 

[Chris]

At my laptop now.

So, apparently a detective has checked me. In this case I should be confirmed innocent (due to the bus driver's death) but Karla is accusing me. Therefore, if the detective brought up a red role it would have had to have been mafia goon. This is not my role. This means one of two things:

(1) I?ve been framed by the mafia. Karla publicised the fact we?ve been speaking on Mumble and the conclusions we came to about TheCreeperHugz and Klinkguin as a result of that conversation. Based on that I?m probably a good target to frame.

(2) One miller has died this game. There were two in game 2, so there?s a chance there is a second one in this game as well. There are thirteen players left in the game. Take out Karla (a vig), the remaining medic, the remaining detective, the mad hatter, and the mafia (so 13-9=4) and that means there is a 1 in 4 chance (25%) I could be it. That probability increases if I have missed any other remaining action roles in my calculation.​

I want you to look at this from a logical standpoint: I know I?m innocent and if I die the town:mafia ratio will become 7:5. Mafia can make three kills - but we still have a medic, so this means that at least two people will die. This will drop the ratio to at least 5:5. Thus, mafia will win over a claim that has been brought up without any evidence.


My proposal: if you don?t trust me then incarcerate me. This can only aid us. It also means we've a chance to lynch a mafia while I wait for time to prove my innocence. I'll show you how this works:

(A) If I were mafia, this would mean that their KP would drop to 2. If we can lynch a mafia then the most damage that we can possibly suffer is 6:4. If we fail to lynch a mafia then the ratio is still 6:5. Therefore, if I were mafia this guarantees that the game would be prolonged to day 5.​

But I'm innocent. So if I'm incarcerated it will play out in one of two ways:

(B) We fail to lynch a mafia. This means ratio is at 7:5 before nightfall. Mafia can make three hits: ratio is either 4:5 or 5:5 - therefore mafia win.

(C) We successfully lynch a mafia. The ratio is now 8:4. KP is 2. Ratio at the end of day 4 is either 7:4 or 6:4. We are guaranteed to move into day 5.​

Trundle has already announced that he will use the double lynch on day 5: play it safe today and this will give the town better odds of winning tomorrow.

 

[Horus]

Looks like I wasn't the only one getting bored lol, we still have Karla and Trundle though, so that's good.

...and now they're in deep dark danger.

I think Tina has a point though. I was a Miller last game so I know that really sucks but I mean Tina has been super active in trying to find and take out Mafia this whole game just like Karla, so I can't really see that she'd be mafia in this case.

At this point in time, she's one of the strongest members we have at the moment and her proposal is pretty reasonable, I'd say we just go with it instead of lynching her off entirely.

 

[KarlaKGB]

Mad Hatter

Please come out to myself or Trundle. At this stage of the game, there should be no reason to still distrust me. Your bombs on the right targets could make all the difference for us.

 

[Dolby]

I slipped who the Detective was, and that person got roleblocked. Leaving the real DT to check Tina.

Tina is Mafia.

Karla, what role did Tina come up as?

 

[KarlaKGB]

She is a Mafia Roleblocker

I'm just wondering whether to incarcerate her and lynch another person.

 

[Dolby]

I think we should lynch her

 

[Superpenguin]

She is a Mafia Roleblocker

I'm just wondering whether to incarcerate her and lynch another person.

If she returned Mafia Roleblocker, why the Hell would we not lynch her now? It's kind of cut and dry at this point.
Unless, of course, you have other suspicions...

 

[Hikari]

She is a Mafia Roleblocker

I'm just wondering whether to incarcerate her and lynch another person.

I guess their's no chance they're a Miller or they were framed, huh? I'll go ahead and vote for them...

 

[Elijo]

She is a Mafia Roleblocker

I'm just wondering whether to incarcerate her and lynch another person.

I believe we should lynch her.

 

[oath2order]

Okay, I've been reading this and I need to post. Sorry about not being so active this recent day. I work at Target, and they schedule me in the toy department. It takes a lot out of you.

I have to vote for Tina. Mafia Roleblocker is a very specific role, and with nothing else to go on, I'm voting Tina.

 

[Chris]

I'm just wondering whether to incarcerate her and lynch another person.

Leave me in suspense, why don't you? But, admittedly, I'd have been disappointed if you got cocky and didn't think this through. I expect only the best from you.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

After lurking for a while, I'm voting for Tina. Being Mafia Roleblocker means there is no possible way to be innocent but return Mafia. This also disproves Tina's theories of being framed/being a Miller.