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I think Crys is town because she is using her gut feeling, Entropy for just guessing what players could be scum. The games I have played with her she at leasts get 2or more of them right. And Miharu because of the townslip in the RQS.
 
I already shared my thoughts on Ness and Minties. And how many games I played with Hayden maybe 5games? Not sure need to count them.
Ohh where? o:

Okay thanks! :D Also could you rephrase what you said in the bolded part I asked last page? o:

theres a chance he could be Mafia
/facepalm LOL I didn't notice he hasn't posted yet ahaha That's true that there's a chance he could be mafia XD But what made you want to lynch Blue Pikachu instead of byuntae or inkling? o: Those two also have not posted yet :3
 
Ohh where? o:

Okay thanks! :D Also could you rephrase what you said in the bolded part I asked last page? o:


/facepalm LOL I didn't notice he hasn't posted yet ahaha That's true that there's a chance he could be mafia XD But what made you want to lynch Blue Pikachu instead of byuntae or inkling? o: Those two also have not posted yet :3
i mean there's a chance anyone could be mafia but I don't think I'll see him contribute as I haven't even seen him post in the forum in awhile.

To whoever wants to answer or whatever idc; if you could have one person lynched or killed right now who would it be?
 
I think Crys is town because she is using her gut feeling, Entropy for just guessing what players could be scum. The games I have played with her she at leasts get 2or more of them right. And Miharu because of the townslip in the RQS.

How do you know Crys is using her gut feeling? o:
Also I have to agree with you on Entropy ahaha she's acting like how she did in the Attack on Titan game XD <3
As for me woah woah LOL Mafia could easily fake a town slip though by choosing their wording if you think about it xD I don't think you should town read/lean players because of a "town slip". xD What are your thoughts on me then about the typo I made that Sat pointed out? o:
 
I'm not really sure why Minties and Ness are sus of me maybe they are trying to make me look bad when I just said I think mafia might have a strongman.

As who I'm sus of it is Hayden. I'm willing to consider that he has school and can't post.

Thoughts on Minties and Ness.

What I mean is I'll be asking questions on people I'm sus of because I know that is a good way of scumhunting.
 
Dolby, my main man - When you have the time, would you please make the names in the opening post clickable so we can see each player's post history within the thread? Thank you kindly!

Done with this
 
There's two things I wish to bring forward as potential 'tactics' for this game.

First, since the King / Leader (which could be anyone, including a new and inexperienced player) is the sole decider of whom gets lynched each day, yet they cannot out themselves or their intentions on whom to lynch too much, I think it MAY be wise for the person that got the most "purple votes" put onto themselves as the day approaches it's end to consider openly claiming. That may sound very dangerous and risky, but unlike in kingmaker games, we cannot have any sort of "intent to hammer" warnings in this one, and it is always better to claim and live than it is to not claim and get mislynched. A little unorthodox perhaps but unless the leader is a very experienced player sure of themselves, it may be the wisest course of action.

Secondly, I want to talk about scum numbers. The win conditions listed in the opening post and on the only publicly known role very clearly states that all HOSTILE Third Party needs to be eliminated in order to win the game. Note that this win condition is also listed for Mafia. This leads me to believe that there is definitely some kind of Serial Killer role in the game. Potentially also a secondary Third Party that isn't hostile. Furthermore, a game of this size would likely have around 4 or 5 Mafia. This means that there could potentially be a lot of deaths already on N1 and that if we have any blue roles with "limited use" powers, it may be better to use them sooner rather than later, with the exception of Vigilantes perhaps unless you're very confident you'll hit scum.

Thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
i mean there's a chance anyone could be mafia but I don't think I'll see him contribute as I haven't even seen him post in the forum in awhile.

To whoever wants to answer or whatever idc; if you could have one person lynched or killed right now who would it be?
Ohh okay!! Thank you! <:

As for the question, I'll say Oak because Entropy seems to know how Oak plays really well XD Her post about oak definitely raises suspicions :3 On my first mafia game, the only reason I had town leaned Oak early game was because entropy was town locked for me and she was pretty much screaming that oak was NOT mafia even though a few people thought he was and that he was one of the best candidates to lynch. I trusted Entropy's opinion since she lead a lynch on a strongman (Tom) on Day 1. Later on, Oak ended up getting killed by mafia and he did end up as Town (Blue role I believe) xD, so I'll like to put my faith in Entropy again this game since she's pretty much acting the same as she did during my first game :D

Thoughts on Minties and Ness.

What I mean is I'll be asking questions on people I'm sus of because I know that is a good way of scumhunting.
Oh no no I meant like how do you read them? Do they raise any suspicions for you? o:
 
How do you know Crys is using her gut feeling? o:
Also I have to agree with you on Entropy ahaha she's acting like how she did in the Attack on Titan game XD <3
As for me woah woah LOL Mafia could easily fake a town slip though by choosing their wording if you think about it xD I don't think you should town read/lean players because of a "town slip". xD What are your thoughts on me then about the typo I made that Sat pointed out? o:

You have been acting like you are town always asking people questions to get answers out of them now I think about it I can look at a third party point of view and it would be easy for you to scumhunt because you don't know who scum is.

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Ohh okay!! Thank you! <:

As for the question, I'll say Oak because Entropy seems to know how Oak plays really well XD Her post about oak definitely raises suspicions :3 On my first mafia game, the only reason I had town leaned Oak early game was because entropy was town locked for me and she was pretty much screaming that oak was NOT mafia even though a few people thought he was and that he was one of the best candidates to lynch. I trusted Entropy's opinion since she lead a lynch on a strongman (Tom) on Day 1. Later on, Oak ended up getting killed by mafia and he did end up as Town (Blue role I believe) xD, so I'll like to put my faith in Entropy again this game since she's pretty much acting the same as she did during my first game :D


Oh no no I meant like how do you read them? Do they raise any suspicions for you? o:

I'm only sus of Ness for voting for me just because I said mafia could have a strongman on the team.
 
There's two things I wish to bring forward as potential 'tactics' for this game.

First, since the King / Leader (which could be anyone, including a new and inexperienced player) is the sole decider of whom gets lynched each day, yet they cannot out themselves or their intentions on whom to lynch too much, I think it MAY be wise for the person that got the most "purple votes" put onto themselves as the day approaches it's end to consider openly claiming. That may sound very dangerous and risky, but unlike in kingmaker games, we cannot have any sort of "intent to hammer" warnings in this one, and it is always better to claim and live than it is to not claim and get mislynched. A little unorthodox perhaps but unless the leader is a very experienced player sure of themselves, it may be the wisest course of action.

Secondly, I want to talk about scum numbers. The win conditions listed in the opening post and on the only publicly known role very clearly states that all HOSTILE Third Party needs to be eliminated in order to win the game. Note that this win condition is also listed for Mafia. This leads me to believe that there is definitely some kind of Serial Killer role in the game. Potentially also a secondary Third Party that isn't hostile. Furthermore, a game of this size would likely have around 4 or 5 Mafia. This means that there could potentially be a lot of deaths already on N1 and that if we have any blue roles with "limited use" powers, it may be better to use them sooner rather than later, with the exception of Vigilantes perhaps unless you're very confident you'll hit scum.

Thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks.

This sounds good! O: Also what does the serial killer role do? o: And if you don't mind, could you list the potential roles (And what they do) that could be in this game for me please? ; c ; Like whatever you think it may be xD The only roles I'm aware of are the ones I've played in the last two games which was pretty much Doctor, Aware Miller, Vet, Godfather, etcetc and like 3 others from the chat games on discord (ss3) xD Aside from that, I'm clueless as to what possible roles there could be in this game. ; v ;
 
This sounds good! O: Also what does the serial killer role do? o: And if you don't mind, could you list the potential roles (And what they do) that could be in this game for me please? ; c ; Like whatever you think it may be xD The only roles I'm aware of are the ones I've played in the last two games which was pretty much Doctor, Aware Miller, Vet, Godfather, etcetc and like 3 others from the chat games on discord (ss3) xD Aside from that, I'm clueless as to what possible roles there could be in this game. ; v ;

Sk is like mafia they can kill.
 
You have been acting like you are town always asking people questions to get answers out of them now I think about it I can look at a third party point of view and it would be easy for you to scumhunt because you don't know who scum is.

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I'm only sus of Ness for voting for me just because I said mafia could have a strongman on the team.

What are your thoughts on Sat's post about Minties then? o:

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Sk is like mafia they can kill.

Thank you! XD
 
This sounds good! O: Also what does the serial killer role do? o: And if you don't mind, could you list the potential roles (And what they do) that could be in this game for me please? ; c ; Like whatever you think it may be xD The only roles I'm aware of are the ones I've played in the last two games which was pretty much Doctor, Aware Miller, Vet, Godfather, etcetc and like 3 others from the chat games on discord (ss3) xD Aside from that, I'm clueless as to what possible roles there could be in this game. ; v ;

Dolby tends to be rather crafty with his roles and doesn't always include the most common or basic ones. I do not want to speculate on it openly too much since scum (That'd be you!) might benefit from the information to some extent - But I know that Dolby sticks very closely to the theme at hand. For example, I imagine there will be some kind of role related to the North Korea Prison Camps (Gulags) - Maybe a Jailer or something like that. But it may have a twist on it that we didn't expect regardless. Doctor, Detective/Cop and Godfather is in most games. The inclusion of a Bus Driver just for nostalgia's sake might not be too far-fetched of a guess. I recommend you check out Dolby's previously hosted game "Paper's Please" here on TBT to get a better insight into it all.
 
What post are you talking about can you link the post number for me?
This one!~ http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...ar-(Day-One)&p=6661100&highlight=#post6661100

Dolby tends to be rather crafty with his roles and doesn't always include the most common or basic ones. I do not want to speculate on it openly too much since scum (That'd be you!) might benefit from the information to some extent - But I know that Dolby sticks very closely to the theme at hand. For example, I imagine there will be some kind of role related to the North Korea Prison Camps (Gulags) - Maybe a Jailer or something like that. But it may have a twist on it that we didn't expect regardless. Doctor, Detective/Cop and Godfather is in most games. The inclusion of a Bus Driver just for nostalgia's sake might not be too far-fetched of a guess. I recommend you check out Dolby's previously hosted game "Paper's Please" here on TBT to get a better insight into it all.
Wait how would scum benefit from the information, if they know what their team's roles already are? xD (Mwahaha I'll kill you all!! ;DDD LOL ) And ohh I'll take a look at that thread then! Thanks! <:
 
This sounds good! O: Also what does the serial killer role do? o: And if you don't mind, could you list the potential roles (And what they do) that could be in this game for me please? ; c ; Like whatever you think it may be xD The only roles I'm aware of are the ones I've played in the last two games which was pretty much Doctor, Aware Miller, Vet, Godfather, etcetc and like 3 others from the chat games on discord (ss3) xD Aside from that, I'm clueless as to what possible roles there could be in this game. ; v ;
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles_Main_Page

Can people direct their attention else-where to the "it'll" error and from shiida's choice of third party as (her?) favourite role. The former is almost certainly an error from English not being their first language - if English is your first language, I apologize, but this comment would stand regardless due to the average level of grammar in your posts - and the latter is a looping maelstrom that isn't going to get anywhere. The real question is "Would Shiida not put mafia if Shiida rolled mafia." And I don't think the answer to that is yes.

I intend to look at oak's game history later to see if Entropy's push on him is accurate.
 
OH WAIT LOL MY BAD, I meant mafia roles, like what roles do you think mafia roles could possibly have? Sorry I didn't specify xD I didn't mean town ones/blue roles.
 
Well I missed not very much. Just going to answer **** as I go through the thread in one post.

u know whats weirder? u going after tardis

I really don't see how that's weird? I've never played a game with Tardis and don't really read his posts in any other games (besides mine because I was forced to) because he seems to post useless crap. He legit posted like 30 seconds after my post and I went ??? da hell? It just seemed super out of place and random at the time to suggest a mafia strongman and then add the IF I WAS MAFIA thing at the end. He has posted more in the day while I was asleep and I can see that nothing he really posts ever makes much sense or contribution, but I don't really want to just write him off as a spammer? That seems kind of stupid. Ness did jump on that like a fat kid on cake though, and hasn't really come back when he's in the ideal timezone for this game so I find that really weird.

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@ Entropy - Keeping in mind that it's still Day 1 and the game just started, I have to say that I agree that Minties seems a little scummy so far, primarily based on how she answered the questions. Whilst it is true that she has repeatedly said prior to the game starting that she was not overly excited to join another TBT Mafia game already, the following statements seems very out-of-character for her:

Whilst I can understand that she's not quite as enthusiastic as she normally would be to participate in this game, fact remains that she is incredibly competitive when it comes to Mafia and always really want to win. I would dare say that it goes against her nature to some extent to participate in a game yet not put considerable effort into it, and I think that ultimately she would beat herself up a fair bit if she didn't do her best. That said, I guess we'll have to wait and see how she acts after the game really kicks off - But keep a close eye on her.

I do like the fishing for reactions out of me here. Was it not majorly you that guilt tripped me into playing this game when I wanted to take a break because I lost a good friend because of mafia? "Minties play even though you really don't want to and feel ****ty" "Minties is sus because she doesn't want to try hard!!!!" Okay, friend. I never said I was going to go full Runeraider mode and lurk the whole game. I'm just taking a step back because I feel kind of crappy about the situation and would rather focus my energy on more positive things.

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Well this is cool because so far there have been lots of great thoughts, and I don't even have much to say because others have raised my concerns/questions etc. already. At this point I do want to say that I find Minties suspicious because of everything she's posted so far. She says that she will not be too interested/active in this game, but immediately shows interest in Tardis for what is in my opinion not suspicious at all.

I also think that Entropy made a good point about Hayden's post, although I don't know their playstyle well and wouldn't go as far to call it scummy, I think it's probably an indicator, and I trust Entropy's judgement.

The last thing to note is Ness going as far as to "vote" for Tardis, which seems pretty bizarre and extreme so early.

I find it kind of interesting how Ashtot is playing here though. He comes in and essentially repeats everything that everyone has been saying and then poofs again. He usually contributes more posts when it's this far into day. It's out of character for him to take games generally seriously, so that's why I have this gut feeling on him. Just feels like something isn't right.

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Policy lynches are best

Don't say this or Sataric will rip your **** off and beat you to death with them while calling you a bully like he did to me in previous games.

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I just don't like that answer I underlined and bolded ; v ; How many times have you been town/mafia/third party in total so far? o:

I don't know, I've lost count. I don't really care either way and never have, so that's how I universally feel. I think any role gives a player an opportunity to practise playing, which in my mind everyone needs to practise getting better all the time, even me.

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I'm not really sure why Minties and Ness are sus of me maybe they are trying to make me look bad when I just said I think mafia might have a strongman.

As who I'm sus of it is Hayden. I'm willing to consider that he has school and can't post.

I just pointed out the weirdness of your statement. If ANYONE other than you had said that, you can be sure mostly everyone here would be foaming at the mouth trying to kill you. I think they give too much of a pass to players they consider "bad". You said the same kind of things in my AoT mafia, so that's why I'm not just going to write you off as a bad player like everyone else has.

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There's two things I wish to bring forward as potential 'tactics' for this game.

First, since the King / Leader (which could be anyone, including a new and inexperienced player) is the sole decider of whom gets lynched each day, yet they cannot out themselves or their intentions on whom to lynch too much, I think it MAY be wise for the person that got the most "purple votes" put onto themselves as the day approaches it's end to consider openly claiming. That may sound very dangerous and risky, but unlike in kingmaker games, we cannot have any sort of "intent to hammer" warnings in this one, and it is always better to claim and live than it is to not claim and get mislynched. A little unorthodox perhaps but unless the leader is a very experienced player sure of themselves, it may be the wisest course of action.

Secondly, I want to talk about scum numbers. The win conditions listed in the opening post and on the only publicly known role very clearly states that all HOSTILE Third Party needs to be eliminated in order to win the game. Note that this win condition is also listed for Mafia. This leads me to believe that there is definitely some kind of Serial Killer role in the game. Potentially also a secondary Third Party that isn't hostile. Furthermore, a game of this size would likely have around 4 or 5 Mafia. This means that there could potentially be a lot of deaths already on N1 and that if we have any blue roles with "limited use" powers, it may be better to use them sooner rather than later, with the exception of Vigilantes perhaps unless you're very confident you'll hit scum.

Thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks.

How is it dangerous to claim when you're on the block if you're town? Everyone that is town SHOULD be doing that if they're about to be mislynched. They don't help us very much if they're dead, do they? It's not unorthodox, it should be standard practise. The amount of times I've nearly pulled my hair out when a ****ing blue gets lynched without claiming is astronomical.

Anyone with limited powers should be using them on N1 if they feel they're in danger, except for perhaps a vigilante. Unless the vig role went to an experienced person, the chance of hitting town is so high that it's better to wait until more discussion and clearer targets have come to light. A SK is really the only hostile third party role I can think of and Dolby likes to put them in his games, so it's very likely that there's one.

These are kind of general mafia game play and common knowledge instead of "tactics". I feel like a lot of your posts have been more fluffy than usual with general knowledge put in there to make it look like you're contributing a massive amount of words.

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Oh nope, you're right LOL My bad, it was a grammar mistake ahaha xD When you put it that way, it definitely seems odd LOL I had to read it 3 times to understand what you meant ahaha!

Can I just ask why Miharu's slip is written off as a grammar slip, yet "to the town" boy Ness over there was lynched in TWO games for grammar?

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Sorry for the wall of text, I just didn't want to make 500 posts because I've got a massive headache. Tardis please don't just quote the bloody wall and put one line of text under. You're doing my head in when trying to read on mobile.
 
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles_Main_Page

Can people direct their attention else-where to the "it'll" error and from shiida's choice of third party as (her?) favourite role. The former is almost certainly an error from English not being their first language - if English is your first language, I apologize, but this comment would stand regardless due to the average level of grammar in your posts - and the latter is a looping maelstrom that isn't going to get anywhere. The real question is "Would Shiida not put mafia if Shiida rolled mafia." And I don't think the answer to that is yes.

I intend to look at oak's game history later to see if Entropy's push on him is accurate.

OHH THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE LINK!!! XD :D

Also, yeah xD My first language is Khmer ahaha XD But that's not really an excuse I want to use for my grammar <: I just type how I want (and this is just normally how I type when I'm relaxed ahaha), I'm not typing up an essay for class for a grade, so I don't care how my grammar is when it comes to online posting ahaha!~

@Minties
Thanks for answering my question!! <3 I'm not as suspicious of you anymore due to your reply to everyone. It really has a lot of emotion in it and I feel like it's genuine ; v ; (Ily Minties! I hope you do end up enjoying this game even though you were somewhat forced into it! >__< )
 
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