Mafia TBT Mafia: Renaissance - Game Thread [ENDGAME - Town Wins]

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@glow what are your thoughts on remaining mafia being locket/trundle?

i feel like them all 3 voting me would be stupid but also granted shawo thought his present was bigger and that more ppl viewed him as town over then viewing me as town. do you think only shawo and locket were really mafia in their push on me? i know you’re convinced locket is, but trundle makes me wary. very wary rn.
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trundle is you quotes ur RQS. but who’s to say you wouldn’t actually just put your scum mates in there day 1 like that. i don’t take RQS super seriously but you’re D1 play got you pretty close to death and after that you hid in the shadows and just sheeped shawo.
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not saying it’s a hard scum read but like, that’s a little odd. especially when mafia came out the gates acting a fool. i’m assuming shawo was the brains of the operation, since he had most of town going with him and his playstyle was the most flamboyant, i wouldn’t be surprised if other mafia kinda played it a little wild too
I mean, coming from a town perspective I can obviously see why you would be suspicious of that since I am pretty sure I have actually done that in games before. I feel like we actually have enough buffer room to more or less solve this game without any worry given how many people are pretty much proven town now. Like I could be lynched and you guys could probably still win.
 
part of the wariness is on trundle being a sheep to shawo. but i can also understand partly bc a lot of ppl thought shawo was town. i figured i was just a little crazy even tho my gut told me i was pushing in the right direction.

i don’t wanna assume trundle is mafia just bc he sheeped so hard, i also worry bc of how his D1 played out. he got super close to being lynched. came out on top, then died down and hid and then sheeped shawo. but it’s possible that shawo did use trundle as a pocket like he said.




his refusal to jump to locket makes me confused too bc like you said, if he knew she’s town and we’re in mylo he’d have no reason to not jump. i know he was confident in my chances of being lynched but as time went on he got desperate but he didn’t wanna jump to her. but also i feel like he’s more calculated than that... like if he knew he was a goer he should have sacrificed locket for himself since he still had SOME town cred.
 
We should just forget all of our confirmed townies based off of reads alone and assume everyone is sus.
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Besides everyone who voted Shawo.
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I'm still laughing at "..." coming from Shawo, lol.
 
my real worry is, shawo came out the gates guns blazing right off the bat, so normal things i’d assume mafia to do not pertain to this game bc shawo was a big influence. if that makes sense?? i don’t think trundle is crazy enough to list 2 out the 4?? scum team in his RQS, but if shawo was crazy enough to RC blue day one and be that loud who knows what’s possible?
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We should just forget all of our confirmed townies based off of reads alone and assume everyone is sus.
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Besides everyone who voted Shawo.
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I'm still laughing at "..." coming from Shawo, lol.
i’m so mad. bc in hindsight who else would message me literally only saying “...” i wish he would have said something else. like make fun of me or something so i knew it was him. LOL
 
the thing is it just doesn't make sense for shawo to not / vote / locket if lockets town and its mylo?
as i said it was probably an attempt to appear town in the case that i was lynched. shawo is a really good player and probably did calculate movements before acting on them.
 
a shawo/oath team is very interesting looking back on how shawo talked about oath.

though, why did shawo go from "locket mafia" to "locket town"?
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harbour bussed oath imo. i feel that oath/shawo might've been able to coach harbour in a way. i'm curious to see harbour's actions.

also glow is town
 
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shawo had so much frustration towards glow that i don't think shawo and glow could've been teamed
but also iirc, shawo never gave a read on glow. like at all. all game. i think the one time i remember them rly talking about glow was “i know glow off site so it’s hard for me to read her”

i don’t think that’s damning evidence for glows alignment. and the fact that glow goes shawo at the end gives her some cred. but also she admitted to not believing he was mafia... so i mean, she could have said **** it and hoped to fly mostly solo.

but it really confuses me why shawo would have ignored the ability to flip onto you if you are really town tho. like he was desperate at the end. and he got hammered and we’ll never truly know if he would have caved and give your life in hope to save his own. i’d like to think he was hoping y’all would cave onto me in the end but like, why wouldn’t he sacrifice your life to save his own when he could just push for my lynch next day phase like he has all damn game.
 
but also iirc, shawo never gave a read on glow. like at all. all game. i think the one time i remember them rly talking about glow was “i know glow off site so it’s hard for me to read her”

i don’t think that’s damning evidence for glows alignment. and the fact that glow goes shawo at the end gives her some cred. but also she admitted to not believing he was mafia... so i mean, she could have said **** it and hoped to fly mostly solo.

but it really confuses me why shawo would have ignored the ability to flip onto you if you are really town tho. like he was desperate at the end. and he got hammered and we’ll never truly know if he would have caved and give your life in hope to save his own. i’d like to think he was hoping y’all would cave onto me in the end but like, why wouldn’t he sacrifice your life to save his own when he could just push for my lynch next day phase like he has all damn game.
i swear i saw some other evidence for my thoughts on glow being town but i couldn't find the exact post i was looking for.

i still think that shawo refusing to flip to me is just bc he wanted to be all high n mighty as town if i ended up being lynched. he also expressed displeasure in lynching you, yet still ended up going along w it maybe to seem more town.
whatever shawo was thinking while refusing to flip me was a VERY smart play on his end if i ended up being the final lynch choice
 
- why didn't they ever show up to vote? they were in the thread a few times but never placed a vote. they talked about their strongest lynch candidates but never acted upon them.
- they very suddenly started to push my lynch more. at first they were like "oh,, its trundle,, but if i had to pick between tae and locket" but then all the sudden "hey. lets kill locket." perhaps a push from scum chat?
i was about to vote, but thread got closed early. why else do you think i'm not modkilled.
yes, at first i pushed for trundle but nobody wanted to listen to me just like in day two so my vote had to go between you and tae otherwise i would've been sus. i didn't say "hey let's kill locket" though? before the thread closed i actually said that if i were to vote, i'd be in the direction of tae.
vote him off during night then
if this was in reference to me, then her*
thank you. : )
harbour bussed oath imo. i feel that oath/shawo might've been able to coach harbour in a way. i'm curious to see harbour's actions.
you really think i voted off my scummate, who was a mafia joat. compared to shawo's pretty useless messaging role, why would i have wanted to vote for oath?
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especially because i sussed him since day two, and initially placed my vote on him.
 
i didn't say "hey let's kill locket" though? before the thread closed i actually said that if i were to vote, i'd be in the direction of tae.
you said at beginning of night "lets kill locket" n thats what i was referring to. (thank you for the clarification of not voting)

you really think i voted off my scummate, who was a mafia joat. compared to shawo's pretty useless messaging role, why would i have wanted to vote for oath?
to seem more town. thats the point of bussing: lynch a scum mate so you come off as town and on towns side.
 
harbor i thought you said i regards to tae vs locket you said tae < locket
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jk i searches for it and i saw after you aid tae < locket you’d vote for me anyway.



if you thought locket was more scummy why would you vote me instead?
 
to seem more town. thats the point of bussing: lynch a scum mate so you come off as town and on towns side.
so you're saying that it's possible that ever on day two, i sussed my own joat scummate and advocated for a wagon on him. then i voted him day three without hesitation, all just to get on town's good side. he was a joat with like 3-4 (i don't remember) abilities, it seems a bit far fetched to say that i was bussing such a powerful mafia role.
harbor i thought you said i regards to tae vs locket you said tae < locket
tae < locket in terms of who i didn't prefer to lynch, and who i found towny.
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that ever since day two*
 
so you're saying that it's possible that ever on day two, i sussed my own joat scummate and advocated for a wagon on him. then i voted him day three without hesitation, all just to get on town's good side. he was a joat with like 3-4 (i don't remember) abilities, it seems a bit far fetched to say that i was bussing such a powerful mafia role.
i mean i'm not ruling out the possibility of that. since you're new i can kinda see oath/shawo saying "hey bus oath" or smth among the lines.
 
he was like my top townread other then confirmed town antonio
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i will lead tomorrow's lynch d5

tae is borderline clear tbh
 
he was like my top townread other then confirmed town antonio
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i will lead tomorrow's lynch d5

tae is borderline clear tbh
BORDERLINE CLEAR LMAO.
punchy pls.
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imagine ur top townread otehr than the 100% confirmed townie be the scum we just lynced. and u have the audacity to say im borderline cleared? after he tunneled me. for over a week in real life days? you really think you can push town to lynch me after i was the first one to say shawo is bull****? really? punchy?
 
imagine ur top townread otehr than the 100% confirmed townie be the scum we just lynced. and u have the audacity to say im borderline cleared? after he tunneled me. for over a week in real life days? you really think you can push town to lynch me after i was the first one to say shawo is bull****? really? punchy?
huh

i'm saying your town tae lmao
 
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