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Mafia TBT Mafia: Steven Universe 2 Mafia!!! Town and Kat win!!!!
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Seroja
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I actually saw her latest reads when I replaced and tru I didn't like that she had so many players on null and being overall indecisive/lacking effort. in the RQS she stated she'd be contributing a lot so idk. and there's the no lynch vote on D1. I'll have to ISO her posts before I can say for certain tho.
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ya i have her scumread
i had a post written up but i don't want to post it now. but basically since end of day 1 she's been playing exactly like how she played in themeless maf. coasty, some one liners, reads where indecision is strong and apologizing for being gone
i had a post written up but i don't want to post it now. but basically since end of day 1 she's been playing exactly like how she played in themeless maf. coasty, some one liners, reads where indecision is strong and apologizing for being gone
PandaDarling
Purple People Eater
And she was Mafia I'm assuming ?
As of rn Uttumori is on my scum list, I'm sorry for being so absent I've been at work the last two days but I have tomorrow off so I will definitely contribute more, have some reads and thoughts posted and I won't miss EoD.
moonford
moon doll
Uttumori has been lacking effort as the game goes on, I put her on null because I liked her posts before hand but after a while it was barely anything and I wanted more from her before I decided on whether or not she's a town lean for me.
I'm still okay with an Apple lynch for now, but if Mori continues to do nothing and pop in every now and the to post one thing I think she need's to be looked into.
I'm still okay with an Apple lynch for now, but if Mori continues to do nothing and pop in every now and the to post one thing I think she need's to be looked into.
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Looked into? Sounds like you just analyzed all we know and have about Uttumori, there's nothin else to look into... sounds like you don't want to push an uttumori lynch yourself and want someone else to do it which is sketchy
moonford
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I meant that her other games have to be looked into, I thought her posts were similar to those of her town game but her activity isn't so that's why I think she needs more attention but I still have her on null, so why would I push a lynch on somebody who I have a null on?
I feel like Apple scum slipped and that's more than enough reason to lynch him.
Seroja
buck's bff
zendel I think that rather than asking people to look into her past games, it would be more helpful if you could draw up comparisons between her past town game and this game since you said they were similar. I've never played with uttumori before so that'd be very helpful.
who do you think are apple's possible scum buddies?
i will most likely miss a good chunk before eod (i *should* be back 30 mins before but i don't want to risk it)
i'm going to place my vote in for trundle.
i believe his slip is quite clear. he played in paper mario mafia, where strongman was a strengthened shot not an additional kill. it's only natural to assume the same for this game, given that the description of the role was exactly the same. the fact that he knew it was an additional kill is more than likely due to the fact that he is mafia.
in the unlikely case he isn't mafia, i feel that his death will give us a lot of answers. anyways, i'll read up on the thread tomorrow (if i get time to) before eod to see if anything changes.
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@seroja
i'm not sure... i'll give it some thought :> perhaps at least one out of: curry, panda, uttumori
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also FYI the information in my original post above re. paper mario ^^ came from stuff i remembered i read so if i'm wrong please correct me
i'm going to place my vote in for trundle.
i believe his slip is quite clear. he played in paper mario mafia, where strongman was a strengthened shot not an additional kill. it's only natural to assume the same for this game, given that the description of the role was exactly the same. the fact that he knew it was an additional kill is more than likely due to the fact that he is mafia.
in the unlikely case he isn't mafia, i feel that his death will give us a lot of answers. anyways, i'll read up on the thread tomorrow (if i get time to) before eod to see if anything changes.
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@seroja
i'm not sure... i'll give it some thought :> perhaps at least one out of: curry, panda, uttumori
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also FYI the information in my original post above re. paper mario ^^ came from stuff i remembered i read so if i'm wrong please correct me
Seroja
buck's bff
I'm noting that both Endless and Dolby are entertaining the idea of apple being scum buddies with Zendel and is probably tunnelling him. In the case that Trundle is lynched and flips red, I think it's actually unlikely that Zendel is his partner because Zen voted for him way too early for it to be a buss. So far I don't really think there's a merit in sussing Zen based on his slight shift in tone. He was also under fire in the last game (Paper Mario) for the same reasons and he was town all along.
I am still on the fence about Trundle's alignment (even considering the possibility of the scum slip). Notes on his behaviour in game so far:
1. He's the most aggressive and rude in this game compared to previous games I played with him. He reasoned it was because people were sussing him for silly reasons, but I digress. He had been insulting people even from early game. Not sure if this is indicative of his alignment. However I find this behaviour hard to ignore.
2. His early reads and scumhunts read as genuine to me despite his aggressiveness. Would have probably town lean him at this point if not for the fact that he 'slipped'. Also, I am very easily swayed by AtE so him saying 'prepare to be flabbergasted' is making me really consider that he's actually town.
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I think this post is interesting. Why did he think Kat had hit at least 1 mafia, or possibly 2? (a lot of other chose more or less the same ppl) This is just something that I was thinking about so I decided to throw it in here.
At the moment I'm still reading the thread, and I'm actually in danger of townreading everyone (except for Uttumori). I'll update again.
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*EBWOP: is probably bussing him.
I am still on the fence about Trundle's alignment (even considering the possibility of the scum slip). Notes on his behaviour in game so far:
1. He's the most aggressive and rude in this game compared to previous games I played with him. He reasoned it was because people were sussing him for silly reasons, but I digress. He had been insulting people even from early game. Not sure if this is indicative of his alignment. However I find this behaviour hard to ignore.
2. His early reads and scumhunts read as genuine to me despite his aggressiveness. Would have probably town lean him at this point if not for the fact that he 'slipped'. Also, I am very easily swayed by AtE so him saying 'prepare to be flabbergasted' is making me really consider that he's actually town.
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I think this post is interesting. Why did he think Kat had hit at least 1 mafia, or possibly 2? (a lot of other chose more or less the same ppl) This is just something that I was thinking about so I decided to throw it in here.
At the moment I'm still reading the thread, and I'm actually in danger of townreading everyone (except for Uttumori). I'll update again.
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*EBWOP: is probably bussing him.
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With 5 votes to zero I think we should leave the votes as they are.... I don't want mafia to come in and hammer on the slight chance apple is town. And I feel like if he is his partners will start to squirm
Arstotzkan
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I disagree with this - it was pretty much common knowledge that it was a slip back when he voted. That being said, I didn't take any particular note of Zendel/Trundle conversations (besides that last one, jesus christ). @Abe/Dolby, what about them in particular makes you think they were scummy? I could definitely seen the last one bc of overkill and seemingly focused on Zendel in particular which seemed odd af, but other than that.Seroja said:
Yeah I thought that was interesting, I tend to think that my initial reads may have been right to some extent then (could be Trundle WIFOMing, but it doesn't hurt to take a second look into them methinks).
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Also, I have Curry scumread atm so that's interesting. Wonder if I got 3 lmao, that's be insane.
moonford
moon doll
Town Uttumori - Bayonetta 2, quotes from the Bayonetta game are in bold.
Link to the game for your on observation: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...f-Genesis-Bayonetta-2-Mafia-Umbra-Witches-Win
The first one to post an RQS to start a conversation.
The first one to post an RQS to start a conversation even though the game hadn't started yet.
She asked several questions about something that seemed suspicious to her until she got answers.
Voted no lynch for essentially the same reason, showing that she votes no lynch with reason rather than voting no lynch because she is trying to be unhelpful.
She posts things like this most of the time, while yes they are short and simple she does express her opinion in them. Another thing to consider is that Mori posts like this outside of mafia, showing how genuine she is.
This is just a few posts and she was really active which brings me to why I suspect her:
Scum Mori in Themeless Mafia: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?416636-Themeless-Mafia-Mafia-Win!
When Mori was mafia in the themeless mafia game she made a whooping 11 posts, 3 of which were unhelpful, so she essentially made 8 posts.
Explaining her inactivity again, no lynch without reading the thread before which is uncharacteristic of her. The no lynch was clearly because she didn't want to be modkilled, that's the only purpose of it here. I don't feel the same about her in this game.
She had a total of two questions, 1 of which was responding to Nightmares proposing the idea of her being lynched, when there was many other things to respond to.
And the other was asking whether or not there could be two vigilantes.
This was in response to Primarina who claimed vigilante, after Primarina responded she didn't have much else to say about it, showing her lack of effort when she plays as scum.
She threw suspicion on Lucanosa and I think this post can be seen in that light too:
Nighmtares responses to it:
This whole exchange is weird, Nightmares scum read her and she most likely responded to her to throw suspicion on her, then she back tracks when she gets called out. There hasn't been a single instance of her doing this in this game though.
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The main thing I don't like about her gameplay now is that her effort has become less and less as time goes on, less questions and general input. Her most notable post as of late would be a reads list with mostly nulls, which is never good.
The reason why I don't see Mori as being scum would be that she is a relatively new player who struggles hence why her posts seems rather flimsy (no offence) and I feel as though she would be coached and her posts would be structured better, her posts come across as genuine for that reason along with how simple/short they are as I stated earlier.
@ Uttumori, what is with the inactivity and lack of effort in your posts? Have you lost interest in the game?
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I think Apple, Toadsworthy, Ayaya (You) and Curry (his replacement).
Most likely (top), less likely (bottom), in my opinion:
Apple
Curry
Ayaya
Toad
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Sorry for this being late on my response and sorry for any errors.
Link to the game for your on observation: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...f-Genesis-Bayonetta-2-Mafia-Umbra-Witches-Win
The first one to post an RQS to start a conversation.
The first one to post an RQS to start a conversation even though the game hadn't started yet.
She asked several questions about something that seemed suspicious to her until she got answers.
She did the same thing earlier in this game but she didn't push too hard for an answer as I'm pretty sure Sensai answered her, unless I'm mistaken. I feel as though she would've pushed if he didn't.
Voted no lynch for essentially the same reason, showing that she votes no lynch with reason rather than voting no lynch because she is trying to be unhelpful.
She posts things like this most of the time, while yes they are short and simple she does express her opinion in them. Another thing to consider is that Mori posts like this outside of mafia, showing how genuine she is.
This is just a few posts and she was really active which brings me to why I suspect her:
Scum Mori in Themeless Mafia: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?416636-Themeless-Mafia-Mafia-Win!
When Mori was mafia in the themeless mafia game she made a whooping 11 posts, 3 of which were unhelpful, so she essentially made 8 posts.
Not much to comment, it's just unhelpful.
Explaining her inactivity.
Explaining her inactivity again, no lynch without reading the thread before which is uncharacteristic of her. The no lynch was clearly because she didn't want to be modkilled, that's the only purpose of it here. I don't feel the same about her in this game.
She had a total of two questions, 1 of which was responding to Nightmares proposing the idea of her being lynched, when there was many other things to respond to.
And the other was asking whether or not there could be two vigilantes.
This was in response to Primarina who claimed vigilante, after Primarina responded she didn't have much else to say about it, showing her lack of effort when she plays as scum.
She threw suspicion on Lucanosa and I think this post can be seen in that light too:
Nighmtares responses to it:
This whole exchange is weird, Nightmares scum read her and she most likely responded to her to throw suspicion on her, then she back tracks when she gets called out. There hasn't been a single instance of her doing this in this game though.
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The main thing I don't like about her gameplay now is that her effort has become less and less as time goes on, less questions and general input. Her most notable post as of late would be a reads list with mostly nulls, which is never good.
The reason why I don't see Mori as being scum would be that she is a relatively new player who struggles hence why her posts seems rather flimsy (no offence) and I feel as though she would be coached and her posts would be structured better, her posts come across as genuine for that reason along with how simple/short they are as I stated earlier.
@ Uttumori, what is with the inactivity and lack of effort in your posts? Have you lost interest in the game?
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I think Apple, Toadsworthy, Ayaya (You) and Curry (his replacement).
Most likely (top), less likely (bottom), in my opinion:
Apple
Curry
Ayaya
Toad
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Sorry for this being late on my response and sorry for any errors.
Seroja
buck's bff
This is just a list to help me organise my thoughts and also let you know what my reads are so far. Not extensive and detailed because I might fall asleep doing it.
Third Party
Kat - Unlyncher
Byngo - Jester
I believe their claims so far and would like to discuss if jester is a threat to town in the future.
Claimed town
Kirby- Town Roleblocker
Karen- Vig
I believe their claims so townlocking.
Town lean (strongest to weakest)
Brijade - if u are scum I am impressed but is quite clear a townie based on the lone fact that this is her first game.
Dolby - I was sceptical about Dolby's alignment for a good amount of time, until my interactions with him- which gave me a better read on him. After going through all of his posts I am inclined to think that he isn't mafia cosplaying as helpful town. Posts are genuine in tone overall and raise a lot of good points (agreeable or not)
Cleb- haven't ISO'd his posts but I'm pretty sure he is town based on what I've seen so far. Also another reason I am town reading him is because he refused to answer the rqs properly (he answered everything in Paper Mario as scum). A super dumb reason to townread someone but I dont care. To me it means he's not scared about it creating conflict.
Endless- It's hard to scumlean Abe sinceas he said, he's very good at grinding for content regardless of alignment. Townleaning him now but if he doesn't die N2 wink wink.
Null
Zendel - has always been an easy target for mafia because he's always scummy despite always being town. Will look at his post for content rather than tone.
Toads- actually leaning town but because he is now an established scum player I will have to look more closely. Putting at null to be safe.
Panda- notably more helpful and contributive than in prev game but it is always hard to read her properly.
Curry- will wait to see if he's replaced.
Apple- mixed feelings. Could be volatile town, could be uncaring scum. Either way I am not opposed to his lynch if it comes to that.
Scum lean
Uttumori- most probable scum and the one who will get my vote today unless a more convincing candidate shows up.
Conclusion: Pretty sure the rest of scum team is in my null list. I'd be upset if one of Cleb/Dolby/Abe is actually scum but won't be surprised.
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@Zendel, thank you for putting that post together. That's very helpful and ur less likely scum in my books now. I'll look into it.
Regarding your scumlean on me, is it based on Ayaya or me, or a combination of us?
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I definitely didn't consider that, hmmmm. And yup would like to hear more about this from abe and dolby.
Third Party
Kat - Unlyncher
Byngo - Jester
I believe their claims so far and would like to discuss if jester is a threat to town in the future.
Claimed town
Kirby- Town Roleblocker
Karen- Vig
I believe their claims so townlocking.
Town lean (strongest to weakest)
Brijade - if u are scum I am impressed but is quite clear a townie based on the lone fact that this is her first game.
Dolby - I was sceptical about Dolby's alignment for a good amount of time, until my interactions with him- which gave me a better read on him. After going through all of his posts I am inclined to think that he isn't mafia cosplaying as helpful town. Posts are genuine in tone overall and raise a lot of good points (agreeable or not)
Cleb- haven't ISO'd his posts but I'm pretty sure he is town based on what I've seen so far. Also another reason I am town reading him is because he refused to answer the rqs properly (he answered everything in Paper Mario as scum). A super dumb reason to townread someone but I dont care. To me it means he's not scared about it creating conflict.
Endless- It's hard to scumlean Abe sinceas he said, he's very good at grinding for content regardless of alignment. Townleaning him now but if he doesn't die N2 wink wink.
Null
Zendel - has always been an easy target for mafia because he's always scummy despite always being town. Will look at his post for content rather than tone.
Toads- actually leaning town but because he is now an established scum player I will have to look more closely. Putting at null to be safe.
Panda- notably more helpful and contributive than in prev game but it is always hard to read her properly.
Curry- will wait to see if he's replaced.
Apple- mixed feelings. Could be volatile town, could be uncaring scum. Either way I am not opposed to his lynch if it comes to that.
Scum lean
Uttumori- most probable scum and the one who will get my vote today unless a more convincing candidate shows up.
Conclusion: Pretty sure the rest of scum team is in my null list. I'd be upset if one of Cleb/Dolby/Abe is actually scum but won't be surprised.
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@Zendel, thank you for putting that post together. That's very helpful and ur less likely scum in my books now. I'll look into it.
Regarding your scumlean on me, is it based on Ayaya or me, or a combination of us?
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I definitely didn't consider that, hmmmm. And yup would like to hear more about this from abe and dolby.
moonford
moon doll
It's entirely based on Ayaya, I have to read over the posts you've made so far because I haven't got a chance to do it yet.
Your reads list has town vibes from it and you've contributed quite a bit already, so I think you may be town but like I said I have to read over your posts.
Can you post any of your scum games? I think Overwatch was one of them, so I will check it out.
