Mafia TBT Mafia XIII: XCOM: Enemy Within (End Game - Town Wins!)

[oath2order]

From Tsundere's Last Will:
"I'm protecting Minties night two, if I don't get roleblocked/mind controlled that is."

How else would Minties AND Tsundere both have died, despite Minties being protected? I suppose it's possible that BOTH the EXALT Sniper Sniper AND an Alien targeted Minties, and the Sniper got Tsundere whilst the other got Minties, but that seems a bit more far-fetched. And you wouldn't be wise keep the rocket forever, since you'd risk dying, so I reckon it was used last night.

go away I just read the will

 

[Trent the Paladin]

In the end, it comes down to trusting me or trusting Okasan, though. I don't want the watcher to reveal themselves just to save me, but I am willing to claim to proceed with the plan of claiming to Tom if that is what it takes to win the majority of town over to my side, because we simply cannot afford to make another miscalculation at this point. Almost half of the people still alive are now scum on either the Alien or the EXALT team - I hope everyone realizes this.

If you all trust my claim enough to move forward with the plan, I'll gladly try and slueth out the liar. However Sataric has a valid point: things are not at all in town's favor. Nine, possibly ten town members have been killed off. Sending another rookie is incredibly risky, I'm essentially a sitting duck waiting to be grilled, and we could very well lynch wrong today. While this seems like it'll be a Oka v Sataric fight, please do not forget about VD (Harry) and possibly Moron (though there's bigger fish to fry).

 

[CookingOkasan]

So I must ask you all to really stop for a moment and think: Would a scum member REALLY put themselves at risk just to get a Rookie lynched? Okasan could have fake claimed Vigilante and said that he shot 8floor because we were suspicious of him, but he did not - He stuck to the Rookie claim, and that's why I can know for almost complete certain that he's scum.

Why would I false claim to be a vig when that would spell death by mafia...

Only the Watcher and the Detective?

Hey, I just wanted to see if you felt me on what I posted about SP.

Idk I'm just trying to test the waters with PMs and definitely think that you're someone with similar intentions as me.

also wanted to say that I definitely agree on Shiny being purposefully inactive. I've seen them looking at the page a good bit and there's no reason for them to only have posted three or four times since the game started...

I appreciate that you reached out to me. I no longer comment to much on SuperPenguin's behaviour in the thread simply because it has often led to arguments between him and myself in the past. Honestly, I think he does far more harm than good even when he is town aligned, and I shake my head everytime some calls him a "strong player". The past few games, he alone has done the most damage to town, even when he has BEEN town. He leaked a role list, he set up a chat and invited "only trusted people" and got THREE scum in there, and in the Mean Girls game he threw out that Sunshine Tea was the detective just moment before he died, causing people to trust her, even though she was actually Mafia. I take nothing he says seriously anymore.

Right now I am working together with a Doctor and the Watcher. (Or so they claim - Who really knows what they truly are..) - And if everything went as planned, I should have a bit more information on my primary suspect once morning comes since the Watcher targeted them. Normally I am very much against roleclaims - Especially early in the game - But if you've got a power role that could somehow help out or swap information with us in any way and you've got strong town reads on me, then please don't be afraid to trust me. Of course, we should wait and see what the results of the night is first!

Last I checked, both of the XCOM Medics were killed last night.

 

[Sataric]

Why would I false claim to be a vig when that would spell death by mafia...

Only the Watcher and the Detective?

Last I checked, both of the XCOM Medics were killed last night.

The Doctor was Dolby - I've already explained that in my previous posts though..

Dolby was protecting me but I did not get targeted. Perhaps one of the scum teams was afraid he was on the OTHER scum team, or perhaps they thought he would find them all given enough time. Central is still alive and I think he should send another Rookie ASAP!

~@ Oath2Order - The only blue role that has died that I have spoken to is Dolby.

 

[CookingOkasan]

Well then I simply do not understand this Watcher business.

 

[oath2order]

Well then I simply do not understand this Watcher business.

What's hard to understand about it?

 

[CookingOkasan]

Perhaps the fact that I as stated multiple times, I am a green townie with no night action?

There's literally no way that a Sectoid could mind control a player with no night actions to begin with, therefore I am standing firm beside my previously bolded statement that you have made this accusation to get me lynched because Ashton and I posted our suspicion.

 

[oath2order]

Sataric, who did DOlby protect the first night?

 

[Sataric]

Perhaps the fact that I as stated multiple times, I am a green townie with no night action?

There's literally no way that a Sectoid could mind control a player with no night actions to begin with, therefore I am standing firm beside my previously bolded statement that you have made this accusation to get me lynched because Ashton and I posted our suspicion.

I am not sure if there even is a mindcontroller since nobody has mentioned that they've gotten mindcontrolled so far. Anyways, as I said before, I suppose people will simply have to make up their own minds about who to trust at this point. If you're on the Alien team rather than EXALT, and your Cyberdisc buddy killed a Doctor last night, then he might heal you - But otherwise I'm sure a clever Vigilante will take you down once night arrives regardless of what happens during the day phase.

I have already voted for you. I hope that others will follow my example. You most definitely have a killing role and getting rid of you ASAP would be highly beneficial to town - Hopefully you're on the Alien team so that your KP drops when you die. I trust that people will look through all the evidence, and logically review if I would actually put myself in this position if I was scum, just to get rid of a green role and survive another day, because if you flip town then everyone will come after me with torches and pitchforks instantly. It just doesn't seem very logical to me, and I think others will see that too.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Sataric, who did DOlby protect the first night?

Himself. Because he thought you would kill him. Heh. He didn't trust you and Tina very much. But he changed his mind about you, just as I did, once Tina died and flipped town. (The Watcher inspection helped as well!)

 

[oath2order]

Sataric, you are aware you're likely to die tonight if Okasan flips red, right? Do you have plans on what to do with the Watcher and Detective if you do end up dead?

 

[Sataric]

Sataric, you are aware you're likely to die tonight if Okasan flips red, right? Do you have plans on what to do with the Watcher and Detective if you do end up dead?

Yes, that has been taken care of, just as a precaution. But I don't think I will die tonight.

 

[oath2order]

Yes, that has been taken care of, just as a precaution. But I don't think I will die tonight.

Okay, good.

But how come you don't think so? In the past, mafia likes to do revenge kills on people who lead lynches on town.

 

[CookingOkasan]

Here is my solution to this problem.

If we go for a no lynch, we allow the Jailor to take in either me or Sataric and let them decide what to do. I would like to extend the offer of being jailed to Sataric in order for him to be protected from Scum and the jailor can figure out how truthful his claims are.

That way we can all role claim to the confirmed jailer and he can talk privately to Sataric.

What do you say to this?

 

[Sataric]

Here is my solution to this problem.

If we go for a no lynch, we allow the Jailor to take in either me or Sataric and let them decide what to do. I would like to extend the offer of being jailed to Sataric in order for him to be protected from Scum and the jailor can figure out how truthful his claims are.

That way we can all role claim to the confirmed jailer and he can talk privately to Sataric.

What do you say to this?

How about NO! And it is really transparent what you're trying to do here. We cannot afford to leave you guys with 3 KP for another night. You have to die today.

Okay, good.

But how come you don't think so? In the past, mafia likes to do revenge kills on people who lead lynches on town.

I shall answer this question with a picture..

 

[CookingOkasan]

The only down side, is the fact that it would be a no lynch. However, I think the odds wouldn't be horribly risky since there are two scum teams that are nearly at full roster... so any nightly kills would statistically be more likely to take place between the two.

- - - Post Merge - - -

How about NO! And it is really transparent what you're trying to do here. We cannot afford to leave you guys with 3 KP for another night. You have to die today.

How everyone else thinks that plan over before you hastily rush into another townie death....

 

[oath2order]

How about NO! And it is really transparent what you're trying to do here. We cannot afford to leave you guys with 3 KP for another night. You have to die today.



I shall answer this question with a picture..

Well considering how you claimed that without someone investigating you, I am particularly inclined to believe it.

Would you like to share your action results, if you have used any so far?

 

[CookingOkasan]

Either way I have to go for the night because I have a movie date with a cute girl. I hate it, but I'm not about to blow her off over this.

I left that plan as a genuine olive branch because I know for a fact that you're lying about the Watcher claim. I know for a fact that I am XCOM Rookie.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Dear, 13 other people viewing this thread, could you comment on my offer as soon as possible?

I have to leave literally now and I'd like to hear from someone other than myself, Sataric, and Oath. I know you guys had mentioned role claiming earlier, I think this plan would do that effectively well. The jailor could extract as much information as possible from Sataric and match it with the role claims they receive.

As I said earlier, the only draw back would mostly likely statistically be casualties from the scum teams.

Think about this before you vote.

 

[Sataric]

Well considering how you claimed that without someone investigating you, I am particularly inclined to believe it.

Would you like to share your action results, if you have used any so far?

I have investigated someone who came up as XCOM - I don't want to reveal their name since it's pretty easy to figure out that there's a high chance that I am working with that person now. EXALT will probably try to steal my Last Will to find out who it is but they will be disappointed with the results, much to my delight. I've tried my best to cover my bases. I still have my medpack and my vig shot left, so I think it's likely that I will survive the night.

 

[oath2order]

Either way I have to go for the night because I have a movie date with a cute girl. I hate it, but I'm not about to blow her off over this.

I left that plan as a genuine olive branch because I know for a fact that you're lying about the Watcher claim. I know for a fact that I am XCOM Rookie.

Well, considering how it's an odd day, the Sniper can't snipe anybody, and it looks like the rocketeer used their action. And considering how the aliens and EXALT can win together, the aliens might not even kill anybody.

God help us all if they've teamed up.

I've grown to be against mass-claiming. I did it in previous games, and then I realized what a boring-ass tactic it is. But, given the ****ty condition we're in, I could go for it. Still wanna know what actions Sat used.

- - - Post Merge - - -

OKAY I GOT NINJA'D BY SAT.

 

[Sataric]

Well, considering how it's an odd day, the Sniper can't snipe anybody, and it looks like the rocketeer used their action. And considering how the aliens and EXALT can win together, the aliens might not even kill anybody.

God help us all if they've teamed up.

I've grown to be against mass-claiming. I did it in previous games, and then I realized what a boring-ass tactic it is. But, given the ****ty condition we're in, I could go for it. Still wanna know what actions Sat used.

- - - Post Merge - - -

OKAY I GOT NINJA'D BY SAT.

They cannot. I see what you're doing, but I'd rather we win this game fairly than try to manipulate the scum teams by making up imaginary rules - They would probably see through it anyways. To be honest, their biggest competition right now is each other. Only one team can win.