Mafia TBT Mafia XIII: XCOM: Enemy Within (End Game - Town Wins!)

[Stevey Queen]

I am inclined to believe Sataric in this whole debate. Plus he roleclaimed to be Zhang. So lynching him now wouldn't be good for town providing he's being truthful. I am confused as to why you roleclaimed publicly though. That's an extremely important role and you stated your intentions on what your going to do tonight for all scum to see. That's weird to me.

I am torn between Okasan and Nikki. They are probably both scum. But we know for sure Nikki is Exalt unless Prin was lying. But if Okasan is alien scum that would be beneficial for town.

And I still think Moron is suspicious guys. For my reasons I stated earlier. But Okasan and Nikki is our top priorities.

I think I'm gonna vote for Okason

 

[BlueLeaf]

I'm convinced voting for Alien Okasan is better thanks to BlueLeaf's post.

One thing I find interesting is that the case on Okasan is a fairly solid one. Yet nobody has voted. It looks to me like scum is trying to hide in the bandwagon.

I was about to vote but I was called for breakfast, I'm ready to vote for Okasan now.

 

[Pathetic]

i'd rather lynch alien then EXALT, so i'll probably be voting for okasan, gotta read some posts lol.
also lovemcqueen, weren't you suspected earlier?

 

[Sataric]

I am inclined to believe Sataric in this whole debate. Plus he roleclaimed to be Zhang. So lynching him now wouldn't be good for town providing he's being truthful. I am confused as to why you roleclaimed publicly though. That's an extremely important role and you stated your intentions on what your going to do tonight for all scum to see. That's weird to me.

I am torn between Okasan and Nikki. They are probably both scum. But we know for sure Nikki is Exalt unless Prin was lying. But if Okasan is alien scum that would be beneficial for town.

And I still think Moron is suspicious guys. For my reasons I stated earlier. But Okasan and Nikki is our top priorities.

I think I'm gonna vote for Okason

I agree that it might have been a mistake to reveal my role so soon - I got frustrated. I should probably have waited and seen if the debate was surely going to be lost before I played that hidden ace up my sleeve. It might have been wasted now. But at least I am in contact with some powerful roles, and I can forward their finds for one more day since I am very likely to survive the night. Of course, it's possible that scum would use 2 KP on me to make sure I'd die, but that would limit our other casualties by a lot, so either way there's gain in it for us in my opinion.

I think that if Okasan was actually EXALT and not an Alien, then he'd be close to reaching majority already. The fact that it's taking such a long time for the votes to fall in on him only makes him seem more likely to be on their team, if you ask me.

 

[Pathetic]

but what about Moron?

 

[Stevey Queen]

i'd rather lynch alien then EXALT, so i'll probably be voting for okasan, gotta read some posts lol.
also lovemcqueen, weren't you suspected earlier?

By minties? She said I was staying out of the heat by mostly agreeing with people. Which I can't deny. That's what I do. I'm a shy nervous guy who is hesitant to say my suspicions for fear of angry confrontations.

I agree that it might have been a mistake to reveal my role so soon - I got frustrated. I should probably have waited and seen if the debate was surely going to be lost before I played that hidden ace up my sleeve. It might have been wasted now. But at least I am in contact with some powerful roles, and I can forward their finds for one more day since I am very likely to survive the night. Of course, it's possible that scum would use 2 KP on me to make sure I'd die, but that would limit our other casualties by a lot, so either way there's gain in it for us in my opinion.

I think that if Okasan was actually EXALT and not an Alien, then he'd be close to reaching majority already. The fact that it's taking such a long time for the votes to fall in on him only makes him seem more likely to be on their team, if you ask me.

Well I hope things work out for you. I think you are one of our strongest and most vocal players

 

[VillageDweller]

Yui-Z and Blueleaf kind of already summed it up for me - I think anyone who would rather have an EXALT lynched over an Alien is probably an Alien themself. Looking at Prin here.

not sure if someone's already said that but right now it's extremely important to lynch an Alien today. If we don't the Aliens essentially automatically win. ;-;

 

[CookingOkasan]

Well I hope things work out for you. I think you are one of our strongest and most vocal players

Regardless of this outcome, be wary of his influence.

literally done with forum mafia for at least three of four games after this. the spam and the bandwagoning and the inactivity is seriously just a giant load of goddamn bull****.

 

[BlueLeaf]

Yui-Z and Blueleaf kind of already summed it up for me - I think anyone who would rather have an EXALT lynched over an Alien is probably an Alien themself. Looking at Prin here.

not sure if someone's already said that but right now it's extremely important to lynch an Alien today. If we don't the Aliens essentially automatically win. ;-;

Where the heck have you been yesterday? You posted a bit in other parts of the forum.

 

[f11]

Speaking of inactives, Beary where u at? She's been posting in the basement most of the morning but never has really said anything in the thread.

 

[Beary]

Speaking of inactives, Beary where u at? She's been posting in the basement most of the morning but never has really said anything in the thread.

Ohai

 

[Feloreena]

Blu Rose has been replaced by Jeremy.

(Please tell me exactly when you leave next time, Blu Rose. >.<)

 

[VillageDweller]

Where the heck have you been yesterday? You posted a bit in other parts of the forum.

sleeping

I have still been reading over the thread but i honestly got confused so I wasn't sure what to put
However I do have some suspicions.

Blu Rose
I'll do Blu Rose first since I think he's being modkilled so this is just what I have to say on him - I know he's busy or something but he kind of just made that one post detailing about all the different scenarios with what the Recruiter was doing, and I think he just looked like he would have a big post to come back to if he was ever called out? Except the post was kind of useless because it's easy enough to work out on your own and you probably wouldn't even need to know the information. Personally I think he wasj ust trying to do this to try and draw slight attention to himself and get some actions used on him. I think he might be the Chryssalid. We'll see soon enough anyway but if not

Alise - idk I just think she is.
[6:07:43 PM] kallie: did you talk to her about the game
[6:07:47 PM] kallie: she said shes been talking to you
[6:07:52 PM] Harry: WTF
[6:07:54 PM] Harry: NO?
[6:07:57 PM] Harry: not since like 2 days ago
[6:52:33 PM] kallie: shes acting weird
[6:52:34 PM] kallie: shes like
[6:52:38 PM] kallie: HOW COME U ROLECLAIM TO ME BUT NOT OTHERS
[6:52:45 PM] kallie: im like well for 1 i know one is 100% town
[6:52:52 PM] kallie: harry im getting town vibes from
[6:52:59 PM] kallie: ashtot i dont know why the **** i did but whatever
[6:53:26 PM] kallie: tom is def town js
[6:58:46 PM] Harry: wtf
[7:01:11 PM] kallie: like
[7:01:14 PM] kallie: she keeps saying
[7:01:22 PM] kallie: I CANT TALK TO PPL WITHOUT THEIR ROLE
[7:01:27 PM] Harry: WTF LOL?
[7:01:32 PM] kallie: but she DIDNT EVEN TRY TALKIN TO U
[7:01:36 PM] kallie: so !?!!!!!!?!1!!1
[7:01:38 PM] Harry: ??????????????????????????/////
[7:01:59 PM] Harry: omg WHAT? she is so obvs mafia or 3rd party
[7:02:04 PM] kallie: i swear to god if shes town

[7:02:41 PM] kallie: idk she did fine in mean girls
[7:02:44 PM] kallie: what changed
[7:02:46 PM] Harry: she's not worst town but liek literally what.
[7:02:53 PM] Harry: what role was she in mena girls
[7:02:58 PM] kallie: gunsmith
[7:03:01 PM] Harry: o
[7:03:09 PM] kallie: its not liked that gave her any info
[7:03:13 PM] kallie: like*
[7:03:23 PM] Harry: if she was townie id' say she might be blue role and that's why she's different but that's not it bc gunsmith was blue so
[7:03:30 PM] kallie: so idk why she keeps saying "i do more when im a blue"
[7:03:40 PM] Harry: ya bc that obvs make sense
[7:03:45 PM] kallie: when she was a townie in frozen she actually had suspicions
[7:03:48 PM] Harry: u do more as ablue bc it's worse if you die??
[7:03:59 PM] kallie: this game she keeps telling me "i dont have any
[7:04:11 PM] Harry: suspicions?
[7:04:16 PM] kallie: like its weird how she bandwagoned on the cap lynch right after majority was reached
[7:04:18 PM] kallie: and yes
[7:04:31 PM] Harry: ya omg she voted like after it was confirmed cap would be lynched.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[11/07/2014 20:30:11] kallie: ashtot: ELISE SAID U ONLY CLAIMED TO ONE PERSON AND UR LYING SO UR DOCTOR CLAIM IS A LIE CORRECT
[11/07/2014 20:30:13] kallie: [12:28:08 PM] kallie: why are you making up lies lol
[12:28:18 PM] kallie: i didnt just roleclaim to one person
[12:28:22 PM] cool: what
[12:28:24 PM] kallie: i said just one person i know is 100% town
[12:28:26 PM] cool: i didnt say that
[12:28:28 PM] cool: ?/? wtf
[12:28:32 PM] kallie: uh huh ashtot just told me you did
[12:28:36 PM] cool: no
[12:28:43 PM] cool: i just pasted this >
[12:28:49 PM] kallie: why
[12:28:52 PM] cool: [1:50:32 PM] kallie: besides i only claimed to one person becuase i know 100% that theyre town
[12:28:55 PM] cool: thats it
[12:29:04 PM] kallie: you need to paste the whole convo omfg
[12:29:06 PM] cool: i didnt say anything about you roleclaiming to one person?/
[12:29:06 PM] cool: sory
[12:29:07 PM] cool: lol
[12:29:17 PM] kallie: okay but the way you pasted it makes it look like i only claimed to one person
[12:29:25 PM] cool: woops
[12:29:33 PM] cool: shrugs
[12:29:35 PM] kallie: .........
[12:29:43 PM] kallie: this is exactly what happened in frozen
[12:29:44 PM] cool: srry </3
[12:29:47 PM] kallie: you need to be more careful
[12:29:50 PM] cool: ):
[11/07/2014 20:30:15] kallie: JESUS CHRIST
[11/07/2014 20:31:37] Harry: Shrugs
[11/07/2014 20:31:38] Harry: Omfg
[11/07/2014 20:31:55] kallie: OMFG
[11/07/2014 20:31:57] kallie: IM DONE WITH HER
[11/07/2014 20:32:01] kallie: SHE LEFT OUT THE REST OF THE CONVO
[11/07/2014 20:32:03] kallie: TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD
[11/07/2014 20:32:03] kallie: LIKE
[11/07/2014 20:32:04] kallie: WOW

cool is alise btw. It just seems like she wouldn't do this if she was actually town.

I think CookingOkasan is just frustrated mafia right now. Murray seems to slip by a lot, simply posting his suspicions and then leaving. A lot different from his Newbie Mafia II gameplay was he was Town, he was more aggressive and posted more but now just seems to slip by.
sunshinetea seems to also slip by however in Frozen Mafia where she was Mafia she seemed to post a lot more. Probably a blue role?
I think Beary is town but I don't know what role. I feel inclined to say townie/XCOM Rookie.

I've still been active in PMs and stuff I just didn't post in the thread, sorry.

- - - Post Merge - - -

OK SO the modkill part is now irrelevant. Pass all I thought about Blu Rose onto Jeremy.

 

[Sataric]

I asked Feloreena in a PM if this line from the Godfather's description: "You must discuss a name of a role you wish to return as should a Psionic Soldier receive a Neural Enhancement genetic modification, and the host will provide you with a blue role that is not in the game." could mean that one of the two XCOM sniper claims we've had would count as a different role "not included in the game" if they had different amounts of bullets, and she said yes.

I have now also heard about two conflicting claims for the XCOM Heavy position - One is the unnamed one mentioned in SP's Last Will (Identity unknown) and the other claimed to me, but said they are NOT the one SP mentioned. And if one of them would for example have only one suppression whilst the other had two, then one of those could technically be the safe claim given to the Godfather as well. (Though it does not list X-Shot on that role, so it seems less likely..)

I think it's very important that we analyze this further if you've had someone claim a Town killing role to you, because there's definitely too many of those claims in circulation right now for them all to be true. Some of the people who have claimed XCOM killing roles are definitely scum, and I believe one of them is the Godfather as well.

 

[Pathetic]

sleeping

I have still been reading over the thread but i honestly got confused so I wasn't sure what to put
However I do have some suspicions.

Blu Rose
I'll do Blu Rose first since I think he's being modkilled so this is just what I have to say on him - I know he's busy or something but he kind of just made that one post detailing about all the different scenarios with what the Recruiter was doing, and I think he just looked like he would have a big post to come back to if he was ever called out? Except the post was kind of useless because it's easy enough to work out on your own and you probably wouldn't even need to know the information. Personally I think he wasj ust trying to do this to try and draw slight attention to himself and get some actions used on him. I think he might be the Chryssalid. We'll see soon enough anyway but if not

Alise - idk I just think she is.
[6:07:43 PM] kallie: did you talk to her about the game
[6:07:47 PM] kallie: she said shes been talking to you
[6:07:52 PM] Harry: WTF
[6:07:54 PM] Harry: NO?
[6:07:57 PM] Harry: not since like 2 days ago
[6:52:33 PM] kallie: shes acting weird
[6:52:34 PM] kallie: shes like
[6:52:38 PM] kallie: HOW COME U ROLECLAIM TO ME BUT NOT OTHERS
[6:52:45 PM] kallie: im like well for 1 i know one is 100% town
[6:52:52 PM] kallie: harry im getting town vibes from
[6:52:59 PM] kallie: ashtot i dont know why the **** i did but whatever
[6:53:26 PM] kallie: tom is def town js
[6:58:46 PM] Harry: wtf
[7:01:11 PM] kallie: like
[7:01:14 PM] kallie: she keeps saying
[7:01:22 PM] kallie: I CANT TALK TO PPL WITHOUT THEIR ROLE
[7:01:27 PM] Harry: WTF LOL?
[7:01:32 PM] kallie: but she DIDNT EVEN TRY TALKIN TO U
[7:01:36 PM] kallie: so !?!!!!!!?!1!!1
[7:01:38 PM] Harry: ??????????????????????????/////
[7:01:59 PM] Harry: omg WHAT? she is so obvs mafia or 3rd party
[7:02:04 PM] kallie: i swear to god if shes town

[7:02:41 PM] kallie: idk she did fine in mean girls
[7:02:44 PM] kallie: what changed
[7:02:46 PM] Harry: she's not worst town but liek literally what.
[7:02:53 PM] Harry: what role was she in mena girls
[7:02:58 PM] kallie: gunsmith
[7:03:01 PM] Harry: o
[7:03:09 PM] kallie: its not liked that gave her any info
[7:03:13 PM] kallie: like*
[7:03:23 PM] Harry: if she was townie id' say she might be blue role and that's why she's different but that's not it bc gunsmith was blue so
[7:03:30 PM] kallie: so idk why she keeps saying "i do more when im a blue"
[7:03:40 PM] Harry: ya bc that obvs make sense
[7:03:45 PM] kallie: when she was a townie in frozen she actually had suspicions
[7:03:48 PM] Harry: u do more as ablue bc it's worse if you die??
[7:03:59 PM] kallie: this game she keeps telling me "i dont have any
[7:04:11 PM] Harry: suspicions?
[7:04:16 PM] kallie: like its weird how she bandwagoned on the cap lynch right after majority was reached
[7:04:18 PM] kallie: and yes
[7:04:31 PM] Harry: ya omg she voted like after it was confirmed cap would be lynched.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[11/07/2014 20:30:11] kallie: ashtot: ELISE SAID U ONLY CLAIMED TO ONE PERSON AND UR LYING SO UR DOCTOR CLAIM IS A LIE CORRECT
[11/07/2014 20:30:13] kallie: [12:28:08 PM] kallie: why are you making up lies lol
[12:28:18 PM] kallie: i didnt just roleclaim to one person
[12:28:22 PM] cool: what
[12:28:24 PM] kallie: i said just one person i know is 100% town
[12:28:26 PM] cool: i didnt say that
[12:28:28 PM] cool: ?/? wtf
[12:28:32 PM] kallie: uh huh ashtot just told me you did
[12:28:36 PM] cool: no
[12:28:43 PM] cool: i just pasted this >
[12:28:49 PM] kallie: why
[12:28:52 PM] cool: [1:50:32 PM] kallie: besides i only claimed to one person becuase i know 100% that theyre town
[12:28:55 PM] cool: thats it
[12:29:04 PM] kallie: you need to paste the whole convo omfg
[12:29:06 PM] cool: i didnt say anything about you roleclaiming to one person?/
[12:29:06 PM] cool: sory
[12:29:07 PM] cool: lol
[12:29:17 PM] kallie: okay but the way you pasted it makes it look like i only claimed to one person
[12:29:25 PM] cool: woops
[12:29:33 PM] cool: shrugs
[12:29:35 PM] kallie: .........
[12:29:43 PM] kallie: this is exactly what happened in frozen
[12:29:44 PM] cool: srry </3
[12:29:47 PM] kallie: you need to be more careful
[12:29:50 PM] cool: ):
[11/07/2014 20:30:15] kallie: JESUS CHRIST
[11/07/2014 20:31:37] Harry: Shrugs
[11/07/2014 20:31:38] Harry: Omfg
[11/07/2014 20:31:55] kallie: OMFG
[11/07/2014 20:31:57] kallie: IM DONE WITH HER
[11/07/2014 20:32:01] kallie: SHE LEFT OUT THE REST OF THE CONVO
[11/07/2014 20:32:03] kallie: TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD
[11/07/2014 20:32:03] kallie: LIKE
[11/07/2014 20:32:04] kallie: WOW

cool is alise btw. It just seems like she wouldn't do this if she was actually town.

I think CookingOkasan is just frustrated mafia right now. Murray seems to slip by a lot, simply posting his suspicions and then leaving. A lot different from his Newbie Mafia II gameplay was he was Town, he was more aggressive and posted more but now just seems to slip by.
sunshinetea seems to also slip by however in Frozen Mafia where she was Mafia she seemed to post a lot more. Probably a blue role?
I think Beary is town but I don't know what role. I feel inclined to say townie/XCOM Rookie.

I've still been active in PMs and stuff I just didn't post in the thread, sorry.

- - - Post Merge - - -

OK SO the modkill part is now irrelevant. Pass all I thought about Blu Rose onto Jeremy.

im hurt, kallie.

funny how you 1. ignore posts about you 2. kallie roleclaimed to you and she died? lol bye

- - - Post Merge - - -

and u go invisible this game? roflcopters

- - - Post Merge - - -

****************************************THEYTHEYHEYTHEHYHETHEYH

 

[Sataric]

Reminder to Central: Send a Rookie. What have we really got to lose at this point? Gamble for a chance at victory!

 

[oath2order]

Oh god its jer

 

[CookingOkasan]

sleeping

I have still been reading over the thread but i honestly got confused so I wasn't sure what to put
However I do have some suspicions.

I think CookingOkasan is just frustrated mafia right now.

You're right, I am a frustrated mafia player because mafia players like you can just sit there for two whole days and then come into the thread and say "oh I was sleeping"

you haven't been sleeping since 7/10 at 12:47PM. You've been active elsewhere on the forums. It is literally inexcusable.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Reminder to Central: Send a Rookie. What have we really got to lose at this point? Gamble for a chance at victory!

And you say that my plan involving the Jailor was anti-town? jesus christ...

 

[VillageDweller]

You're right, I am a frustrated mafia player because mafia players like you can just sit there for two whole days and then come into the thread and say "oh I was sleeping"

you haven't been sleeping since 7/10 at 12:47PM. You've been active elsewhere on the forums. It is literally inexcusable.

- - - Post Merge - - -



And you say that my plan involving the Jailor was anti-town? jesus christ...

i wasn't serious about the sleeping but ok. I was gone yesterday though (I wasn't in the IRC for the day so I didn't speak to anyone)
i know it is. i've still been reading the thread i just haven't had anything to really post and I have been talking in PMs

alise - the posts were so far back but I'll go read for you xo
ok here

Okay time to get down to business.

The only people who knew that tsundere was a doctor were Harry and Tom. I personally believe that Harry is scum, but not so sure about Tom. Harry has been deceptive throughout this entire game, which he is mostly playing through PM's with other people. I and alise have some evidence of him working closely with tsundere. This will hopefully be brought up soon and gradually in the next half hour or so. Now as we can see, Mew just simply decided to claim blue and get herself killed. I definitely didn't expect Dolby to be a Medic, and it really sucks for us, and the fact that we lost Dr. Vahlen is terrible because we lost two important power roles. Aerious was sanitised which is basically saying to be that she was either an Alien or an Exalt member, so thanks to SP for getting her killed. We should now also be looking at Moron. I'm going to assume that 8floor was killed by an XCOM Sniper or other shooting role thing (whatever they're called). There really wasn't enough evidence, or any really, that he was scum. I'm looking at Sataric and CookingOkasan here because I know they've been working together quite closely for a while. It's possible that either Sataric or CookingOkasan are scum, or that they somehow got a vig to kill 8floor, which I think is definitely possible. Now, I'm going to point out that alise is most likely not scum. I claimed XCOM Sniper to her, although I'm really an XCOM Rookie. I was baiting her thinking that if she was scum, I would be dead tonight, but that didn't happen. I'd love to hear from the people I've mentioned, as I think Harry and/or Tom are pretty much screwed right now. Other thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I'd also like to put Alice, Shiny, Crystal, and oath2order into the spotlight, you're going to have to start talking.

hi
ok yes it is true that tsundere claimed to me, I also claimed to them. i'd hardly call myself deceptive but as Okasan said, not doing anything. however I can say with full honesty that I didn't kill tsundere.

idk what day it was but a while ago alise found out that I was a blue role. I didn't die, and I honestly did expect her to kill me as I think/thought she was/is mafia and knew I was a blue but I guess not? the only reason I would think this is because she hoped something would come out of night to lynch me, as has happened with your posts.

tsundere also said in their will that they claimed to Ashtot as well so it's possible Ashtot did something? but I kind of doubt that imo

sorry again Okasan for being inactive. the only thing I can do anymore is post quotes but I've done that already.

- - - Post Merge - - -

oh and I forgot to mention to Okasan that there is still a chance of it having a good outcome! so it's not totally anti-town but I understand why you called it out :[

 

[Pathetic]

i wasn't serious about the sleeping but ok. I was gone yesterday though (I wasn't in the IRC for the day so I didn't speak to anyone)
i know it is. i've still been reading the thread i just haven't had anything to really post and I have been talking in PMs

alise - the posts were so far back but I'll go read for you xo
ok here



hi
ok yes it is true that tsundere claimed to me, I also claimed to them. i'd hardly call myself deceptive but as Okasan said, not doing anything. however I can say with full honesty that I didn't kill tsundere.

idk what day it was but a while ago alise found out that I was a blue role. I didn't die, and I honestly did expect her to kill me as I think/thought she was/is mafia and knew I was a blue but I guess not? the only reason I would think this is because she hoped something would come out of night to lynch me, as has happened with your posts.

tsundere also said in their will that they claimed to Ashtot as well so it's possible Ashtot did something? but I kind of doubt that imo

sorry again Okasan for being inactive. the only thing I can do anymore is post quotes but I've done that already.

- - - Post Merge - - -

oh and I forgot to mention to Okasan that there is still a chance of it having a good outcome! so it's not totally anti-town but I understand why you called it out :[

you better be scum / exalt so i can kill you