oath2order
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WOW THAT'S A STRETCH
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Mafia TBT Mafia XV: The Siren's Call (Game Over/Mafia & Third Party Win!)
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WOW THAT'S A STRETCH
You finally post and it's something stupid.
We don't know who the scum are so he's going to test people to see their reactions.
Yes. Do you know a Mark in the IRC? 'cause I sure don't.
I don't know if it's some crazy coincidence or what.
Superpenguin
Penguins! <3
Yes, there is a Mark in the IRC: FanousontheLoose
(Responding to Ash and Karla in a sec don't get bat**** crey on me)
(Responding to Ash and Karla in a sec don't get bat**** crey on me)
Thanks I knew there was one and I couldn't remember.
oath2order
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wasn't he scum last game
Superpenguin
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Yes. But Josh and Kallie weren't in last game, and Kayla...oh **** she was a miller last game too :O
oath2order
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Okay but where the **** is this kallie thing from like what
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like is that sataric's role or what
Superpenguin
Penguins! <3
How about stating those "many variables" that make it impossible to say exactly what happened?
I sided with Ryan, because I trusted his claim of Roleblocker and so I obviously trusted his claim on who he blocked: Karla. The lack of kills made this scenario seem like more than just a coincidence, so I saw it as extremely plausible that Karla was scum that sent in kills and was blocked.
Ashtot said:
Because given the situation, it seemed very plausible he was scum, and we are supposed to lynch scum thus me pushing him really hard and later garnering Natty's and Jeremy's support for a Karla lynch too, so obivously I wasn't alone. And that wasn't my reasoning at all. It was more like there was a pretty good chance Karla is mafia, so we should lynch him.
Ashtot said:
I'm not going to be called suspicious because you fail to acknowledge my reasons I give for voting Karla. And a better lynch than who?
Ashtot said:
Sorry if I wanted to make sure Natty wasn't a killing role that would be a threat to Town.
Trundle for his huge posts that can all be condensed into one-liners. Since the start of the game he's just been stating the obvious, and he's trying to make his posts look long when really it's all repetition of both himself and other players.
Crystal just for advocating the easy lynches of JelloFishXD and Ryan88 at the start of the Day.
and a minor suspicion on Yui-Z for nothing more than just her rolename is Mark who was scum in the last pirates. This wouldn't really mean anything except Kayla is the name of th emiller this game and she was the miller in pirates I so...
I wouldn't have mentioned it if I were scum. If I was, then I'd be keeping myself out of the spotlight; I wouldn't go waltzing right into it.
Really, the reason I thought I'd ask was so that we didn't go and lynch townies because their role names aren't from players in the last game. I knew it'd make me look a little scummy, but at least it would've cleared that up if Ash was wrong.
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By the way, I know it was only a small suspicion, but it's still worth explaining.
Superpenguin
Penguins! <3
Why wouldn't you have mentioned it if you were scum? You literally had no idea who Mark was.
It really does make sense, though, the mafia last game walked the plank and probably became sirens when they entered the water.
Yeah, that's why I asked who Mark was. I've never heard of anyone in the IRC before with the name, so I wanted to make sure. My role name just happens to be the one you suggested earlier, and I didn't even notice that you'd mentioned him in your post before (at least, not until Cory pointed it out). I don't really understand your perspective of it.Why wouldn't you have mentioned it if you were scum? You literally had no idea who Mark was.
It really does make sense, though, the mafia last game walked the plank and probably became sirens when they entered the water.
If it comes to it, then I always have my full role name. However I don't feel it's necessary for me to right now.
Superpenguin
Penguins! <3
You said you never would've brought up your role being named Mark if you were scum, which really makes no sense.
Just caught up...sort of confused by this factional kill thing. Do we have to wait for Tina for a definition before someone can explain how this related to the current situation?
@above posts I think we should ignore Sataric and his Kallie theory, it's probably not of any use for today's lynch plus he did say that it would reveal in time.
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Current Thoughts
So, I *may* have skimmed over a few pages just because I've been a bit short on time, but here are a few things I did notice over the course of things:
>how quickly people jumped off the oath/Sataric suspicion train
^Don't just agree with what other people say (cough C r y s t a l)
>If you have a suspicion, STICK TO IT unless some other evidence comes up. This obviously means that you're just jumping around trying to blend in.
>the confusion caused by Sataric about the Kallie thing
^surely if it was that important, he would have shared the information immediately
>which leads me to believe that the two pages of "wtf is going on" "wtf am i dumb" was a distraction caused by Sataric for some reason
>People who only post to give facts (cough Alice cough)
>People who have been disappeared (earth to Jello, Cariad, and alise!)
>The many "cases" put forward on the FIRST day
^I don't think I've ever played a game where day one had this many suspicions! I don't know if it's just me but I find this strange.
>It's almost as if these cases are either extremely flimsy, or people are trying to "be active" by posting crap to make themselves seem town-aligned.
>Arguments over nothing.
^This is just distracting. People play how they play. Sure, their posts may be lame/useless but you don't need to spam pages to rectify that.
I hope this makes sense. There's a few more but I have to go to class now.
@above posts I think we should ignore Sataric and his Kallie theory, it's probably not of any use for today's lynch plus he did say that it would reveal in time.
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Current Thoughts
So, I *may* have skimmed over a few pages just because I've been a bit short on time, but here are a few things I did notice over the course of things:
>how quickly people jumped off the oath/Sataric suspicion train
^Don't just agree with what other people say (cough C r y s t a l)
>If you have a suspicion, STICK TO IT unless some other evidence comes up. This obviously means that you're just jumping around trying to blend in.
>the confusion caused by Sataric about the Kallie thing
^surely if it was that important, he would have shared the information immediately
>which leads me to believe that the two pages of "wtf is going on" "wtf am i dumb" was a distraction caused by Sataric for some reason
>People who only post to give facts (cough Alice cough)
>People who have been disappeared (earth to Jello, Cariad, and alise!)
>The many "cases" put forward on the FIRST day
^I don't think I've ever played a game where day one had this many suspicions! I don't know if it's just me but I find this strange.
>It's almost as if these cases are either extremely flimsy, or people are trying to "be active" by posting crap to make themselves seem town-aligned.
>Arguments over nothing.
^This is just distracting. People play how they play. Sure, their posts may be lame/useless but you don't need to spam pages to rectify that.
I hope this makes sense. There's a few more but I have to go to class now.
It makes sense to me? I never would've brought up the whole thing if I were scum.
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What exactly doesn't make sense about it? T.T
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
Here are some of my thoughts at the moment.
First off, Karla is giving me scum vibes at the moment, but that's not unusual for an early game with him. While it's a lot easier to tell after he starts making full on cases against people, it isn't at the moment.
At the same time, his fight with Superpenguin is really giving me a hard time. Superpenguin's posting style always gives a "lack of care" attitude, but I know that's his normal attitude in the game.
But, after Karla was accused, I found it odd how quickly he went to try to switch the topic over to other players.
It seems odd to me that he only took action after he was accused. Before that, he was quite quiet and wasn't sharing much of his opinion. I want to ask, Karla, why you rarely called anyone out before you were accused.
Either way, I don't think you're scum per say, but I still have my suspicions.
Next, I'd like to see what Sataric has to say. I know he had something earlier that "would make sense later" or something of the sort. We need some thoughts from oath2order as well. You both kinda flew under the radar and haven't posted much since.
First off, Karla is giving me scum vibes at the moment, but that's not unusual for an early game with him. While it's a lot easier to tell after he starts making full on cases against people, it isn't at the moment.
At the same time, his fight with Superpenguin is really giving me a hard time. Superpenguin's posting style always gives a "lack of care" attitude, but I know that's his normal attitude in the game.
But, after Karla was accused, I found it odd how quickly he went to try to switch the topic over to other players.
It seems odd to me that he only took action after he was accused. Before that, he was quite quiet and wasn't sharing much of his opinion. I want to ask, Karla, why you rarely called anyone out before you were accused.
Either way, I don't think you're scum per say, but I still have my suspicions.
Next, I'd like to see what Sataric has to say. I know he had something earlier that "would make sense later" or something of the sort. We need some thoughts from oath2order as well. You both kinda flew under the radar and haven't posted much since.
oath2order
#Porygon2024
I've given my thoughts on the whole Sataric/Kallie whatever that crap was, I've posted periodically throughout the day...
Reading up on the thread, I have to say that I've gotten town reads on Karla for the majority of the game, but with the recent posts by him it's been strengthened tenfold. I truly do believe that he has town's best interest in mind and that he wishes to make sure that this day is spent accomplishing something productive, and the recent discussions have probably been the best taken place all day. People are really stepping up their game as the timer ticks down.
I do not want to make a lengthy post repeating a lot of what other people have said, but I've reviewed SuperPenguin's contributions to the game and there's been some very sketchy stuff. A lot of it makes sense though - Such as this post:
And there's been a multitude of other weird things and differences about your playstyle: You were quick to suggest a No Lynch during a 48 hour day, and then you were also quick to forward people's names for the chopping block and encouraged others to vote the same way you did (You even said, better vote for Karla now in case a rock falls down on my house..), yet switched your suspicion around as the day went on plenty of times. That seems so contradicting. It's like you don't really care too much about who lives and dies so long as you can float on by for another day. And you seem much more serious and sharp this game overall.
I'm still feeling a little iffy about several other players too. Crystal still strikes me as odd and scummy, Dolby really should be posting more, Alise did make an appearance and posted quite a bit after she had been called out but has not made a very large impact on the game nonetheless, and Cariad (MissNoodle?) is undoubtedly just floating by at this point. Oath still seems a little bit odd too, but less so now that the day has progressed further I have to say.
Furthermore, I don't know much about Natty's role that she claims to have, and I admit that I am confused about it, but wouldn't forwarding that you are this mermaid thingy be counter-productive towards your win condition somehow? If it's about stealing treasures? Couldn't people steal her treasures now that they know that she's trying to collect them? Please explain this role to me better because you lost me somewhere along the way, I'm afraid.
The Kallie thing will explain itself over time. Leave it, please. It's for the benefit of town not to reveal more than necessary right now. If you don't understand it, it's probably because it has nothing to do with you!
Anyways, feeling quite ill so I'll be voting SuperPenguin now and might not have time to check back on the thread before the deadline.
I do not want to make a lengthy post repeating a lot of what other people have said, but I've reviewed SuperPenguin's contributions to the game and there's been some very sketchy stuff. A lot of it makes sense though - Such as this post:
That being said, you are a clever player, and you're good at manipulation. This sounds like exactly the kind of crafty thing to say if you wanted people to quickly vote for Karla, in order to eliminate a strong player from the game, yet have people feel like they are in agreement with you overall.
And there's been a multitude of other weird things and differences about your playstyle: You were quick to suggest a No Lynch during a 48 hour day, and then you were also quick to forward people's names for the chopping block and encouraged others to vote the same way you did (You even said, better vote for Karla now in case a rock falls down on my house..), yet switched your suspicion around as the day went on plenty of times. That seems so contradicting. It's like you don't really care too much about who lives and dies so long as you can float on by for another day. And you seem much more serious and sharp this game overall.
I'm still feeling a little iffy about several other players too. Crystal still strikes me as odd and scummy, Dolby really should be posting more, Alise did make an appearance and posted quite a bit after she had been called out but has not made a very large impact on the game nonetheless, and Cariad (MissNoodle?) is undoubtedly just floating by at this point. Oath still seems a little bit odd too, but less so now that the day has progressed further I have to say.
Furthermore, I don't know much about Natty's role that she claims to have, and I admit that I am confused about it, but wouldn't forwarding that you are this mermaid thingy be counter-productive towards your win condition somehow? If it's about stealing treasures? Couldn't people steal her treasures now that they know that she's trying to collect them? Please explain this role to me better because you lost me somewhere along the way, I'm afraid.
The Kallie thing will explain itself over time. Leave it, please. It's for the benefit of town not to reveal more than necessary right now. If you don't understand it, it's probably because it has nothing to do with you!
Anyways, feeling quite ill so I'll be voting SuperPenguin now and might not have time to check back on the thread before the deadline.
