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What is this top secret **** that Tom's talking about, in a non-PM game? Does he and Kallie have a lovechild, whom some Paparazzi role has to find and target during the night? wtf
 
I have several current suspicions, but I’m going to need a few more posts from them and some time to look through the thread again since I’ve just been skimming…my head hurts reading through all those repetitive one liners. I will call out on one right now though — Ashtot.

No, I’m not suspicious of you (well, maybe a bit). I’m extremely curious why you’ve been acting like you are now. You switched votes 2 times I think? And all you’ve been doing is pointing fingers and following other people. You’ve made so many tiny posts everywhere that when people think of active contributors you name automatically pops up just because you’ve made so many (useless) posts. I will admit though, Post 832 was pretty good compared to all your other ones and I hope you keep that up.

Isn’t that a bit contradictory since you can’t make your mind up either? You and Oath both have been posting around the same I think so stop your little quarrel unless one of you has some actual arguments to make.



We don’t talk about that game.

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That last quote of me actually was Oath, not me, I didn't quote it properly.

Also refer to my sig if you're wondering about why I am so bad. In all honestly, just because I have one line posts doesn't mean I'm being useless. It's a no PM game so if I want to discuss I'm not going to write out walls of text to ask someone a simple question. I also don't see the harm in me switching my vote. I didn't know who to vote for so I switched multiple times. We all follow others, at least in some way. If someone has compelling evidence, you're probably going to think about that and agree in some cases, it's not a crime.

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What is this top secret **** that Tom's talking about, in a non-PM game? Does he and Kallie have a lovechild, whom some Paparazzi role has to find and target during the night? wtf

This made me lol.
 
The bolded votes are who votes for SuperPenguin, now Alice, Dolby, Cariad, Alise, Cory and Ashtot all didn't give reasons to why they voted, if i missed then please correct me, but this is a lot on one person who claimed their role.

I am actually very tired and cannot be bothered making a big post about it, theres no need. But it could shine some light on who scum may be!

I'm pretty sure I gave my reason. I stated that I didn't like the way SP was jumping to conclusions that could sent town on massive tangents. It made him seem like he was purposefully trying to wrench town. At the end of the day, even if he was active, he was all over the place. Scum or town, SP was a big distraction. :p
 
I'm pretty sure I gave my reason. I stated that I didn't like the way SP was jumping to conclusions that could sent town on massive tangents. It made him seem like he was purposefully trying to wrench town. At the end of the day, even if he was active, he was all over the place. Scum or town, SP was a big distraction. :p

I didn't give my reason but it's basically the same as this. I also don't think we should disregard what he said about Yui-Z.
 
The bolded votes are who votes for SuperPenguin, now Alice, Dolby, Cariad, Alise, Cory and Ashtot all didn't give reasons to why they voted, if i missed then please correct me, but this is a lot on one person who claimed their role.

I am actually very tired and cannot be bothered making a big post about it, theres no need. But it could shine some light on who scum may be!

I didn't give my reason but it's basically the same as this. I also don't think we should disregard what he said about Yui-Z.

Fair enough, It's worth keeping an eye on her. Lynch candidates aren't exactly lining up for day 2 either.
 
So why does Yui = Mark = scum?

Because Mark was thrown overboard in MMII? Or he was scum in MMII?
 
Maybe I worded things poorly but I meant responding to this:


As well as a few other things. Which it took you many many hours to reply to, giving you plenty of time to figure out good and clever things to say! But we cannot be online 24/7, I completely understand that, and as I said I do believe you for now. You must admit, however, that if no other thieves/mermaids would ever make an appearance as the days go by then you'd be looking incredibly scummy.

I wasn't able to reply quickly to any questions after 12 because I was working. That will be the same today.

hm. No one else is claiming mermaid any if no does ever

Crystal. lol. You realize the other thieves probably have different names, since all rolenames are unique. Because I'm a mermaid, I'm assuming the other thieves are mythological sea creatures too.

Anyways I'm going to attempt to make a post detailing my thoughts later when I get home. For now I shall fade away (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
 
hm. No one else is claiming mermaid any if no does ever, I think Natty may be possible Sk.

I was looking at the only game Cariad was "scum" and tbh I don't know what to say. The only thing I can find is basically coping things others had said and re-iterating it to seem like she isnt bandwagoning.

Idk, something seems off about Sat's posting. It reminds me of mount Olympus mafia. I'll see if I can pull up a few posts later.

Crystal, the way you're playing is starting to bother me. It's like you're in your own little world, oblivious to the fact that many people have called you out and you haven't responded to them at all. Why aren't you defending yourself, hm?

Fair enough, It's worth keeping an eye on her. Lynch candidates aren't exactly lining up for day 2 either.

Why should we assume that just because role names are similar to the last game, that the alignments are going to be completely the same. Tina obviously has some tricks up her sleeve.
 
Crystal, the way you're playing is starting to bother me. It's like you're in your own little world, oblivious to the fact that many people have called you out and you haven't responded to them at all. Why aren't you defending yourself, hm?

Why should we assume that just because role names are similar to the last game, that the alignments are going to be completely the same. Tina obviously has some tricks up her sleeve.
Crystal is a bit suspicious I agree. Someone to build a case on maybe?

As for the names, unless we start seeing more people die with names similar to previous roles I would hold off on lynching x because x was y.
 
Crystal is a bit suspicious I agree. Someone to build a case on maybe?

As for the names, unless we start seeing more people die with names similar to previous roles I would hold off on lynching x because x was y.

Well I'm confident that I'll be okay then. If my role name doesn't match up with the outcome of the last game, then I'm sure I won't be alone. (Unless a vig decides to shoot me tonight, rip)

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Oh, and I'd make a case against Crystal but I'm going out in a few minutes again. (Shout-out to Harry who's been the cause of my procrastination) I probably will when I'm home, if someone's not beaten me to it. Although I think it's so blatantly obvious already how scummy she's looking already.
 
Oh, and I'd make a case against Crystal but I'm going out in a few minutes again. (Shout-out to Harry who's been the cause of my procrastination) I probably will when I'm home, if someone's not beaten me to it. Although I think it's so blatantly obvious already how scummy she's looking already.

I have to agree I don't think we exactly need a case to understand why C r y s t a l seems scummy. We all know what she's been posting, and there's definitely scummyness emanating from her. C r y s t a l I'd like to hear what you have to say about your own behaviour in the game so far.

So far my personal suspicions are C r y s t a l, Trundle (just slight but something just seems off), and Cariad.
 
Crystal is interesting and Im personally not getting scum reads from her. Maybe because she's hecka good as playing scum in IRC mafia (except in kingnaker rip)
 
Alise - Seems to be at least trying a bit harder now than before. Another person people claim is easy to read but that confuses me quite often. I feel they play very similar as both town and scum, and therefore I have no clue if she's evil or not. Definitely done some shady stuff, but doesn't she always do that?

Yeah, like I said, I always start posting when the day/night cycles go on. Meh, to be honest, as scum I'm kinda like, make a post, then leave, so suspicion gets taken off of me. May I ask what 'shady' stuff I've done?

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Also, Oath was kind of trying to get the justice {kallie = justice that's their name you dongs}/tom information out, even when they said no multiple times. Kinda irks me but whatever.
 
Any information being hidden kind of hurts town imo.

Also alise by your words you've been acting scummy. Youve been making a post and leaving so suspicion is off of you
 
Any information being hidden kind of hurts town imo.

Also alise by your words you've been acting scummy. Youve been making a post and leaving so suspicion is off of you

What I meant by that is just dropping it. I wouldn't have questioned Natty further, I would've just left the post there. I didn't make that post to take suspicion off of me, I'm actually curious to see if my theory on Natty was correct.

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Plus, those are 'big' posts. Just posts summing up my thoughts. :rolleyes:
 
Crystal, the way you're playing is starting to bother me. It's like you're in your own little world, oblivious to the fact that many people have called you out and you haven't responded to them at all. Why aren't you defending yourself, hm?



Why should we assume that just because role names are similar to the last game, that the alignments are going to be completely the same. Tina obviously has some tricks up her sleeve.

Eh. I'm not really saying that. I've argued against this theory myself, but we don't have many leads, so it'd be worth keeping an eye on you. I'm not accusing you of being scum, and I'm not saying you should be lynched on day 2.
 
I'm really tired and groggy and yet again don't have much time before I have to go somewhere, meaning I won't be able to post until morning until I get back, and I might not be able to if I die. So here's just a few thoughts I want to drop before I leave:

Tom & Sataric: I know you've asked me to drop the subject but the kallie thing is worth thinking about when it comes to me reading into the both of you, because hiding something that town might not figure out until after the game isn't helpful at all, unless Sataric is who I think he is. Nevertheless, I feel like Sataric isn't a threat to town at the moment and is one of the more pro-town players in this game. Tom on the other hand, I'm having trouble reading into. His behavior doesn't exactly reflect what it was in Sunleth, but his whole 'SP annoys me' and 'I'm not contributing much because town annoys me' is somewhat similar to how he acted in Sunleth, although there are a lot of different factors in this game, one of which is people (thank god) not claiming all over the place in this game. I don't think these two are a mason pair or lovers because Tom was initially confused about Sataric's cryptic kallie riddle. He wouldn't have been if they were already able to speak in private (without cheating).

Speaking of Sunleth...

Minties: I'm not wanting to trust her 100% yet because in this game she's making what appears to be a good post every day or so and then returns to the darkness, like she did in Sunleth. And her posts in Sunleth were lists of people and what she thinks about them just like in this game, because in all honesty that's all she needs to do. Nobody suspected her in that game so she didn't have to make too many responsive posts, just like in this game. I'm not saying this because I think she's scum, but I'm saying this because I don't think that town should underestimate her.

Jeremy: I'm still miffed at him for a previous game. I think he's a fart, the silent and deadly type. A strong player, hard to read into as always, and isn't contributing as much this game in early days like always because he and other people claim that he doesn't like to post much in the first two days. However, even when he and other people say that, he flips scum despite that behavior. He didn't bandwagon like everyone else did but that still doesn't say much about him.

Trundle: Eh, seems pro-town because he's a contributor, but like a few others in this game I have no history of playing in a game with him so my reads don't have history behind them. Both a good thing and a bad thing I guess. Anyways, nothing he has done concerns me as of yet. His case on Cariad is a good one and while she's not my top suspect, it only confirms some of the things that I was thinking about her and only makes me want to keep an eye on her more. I urge everyone to keep an eye on her as well, because she hasn't posted much since yesterday, and even then she didn't have any in-depth posts.

Lauren: I get this feeling that she's disinterested, which makes me think she's town. That's an awful read, I know, but it's the only read I honestly have on her. She's usually much more protective of herself and of her actions when she has a role with some sort of power, whether it's pro-town or not.

oath2order: Ever since I called him out in my big post he hasn't changed too much, but he has been acting a little more pro-town in my eyes, particularly with his vote choice on alise - he was able to see through SP and didn't ride in on other people not being able to. However, I think that as a non-town killing role he would be the type of person to try and slide by this way, and he has also ignored and in a way reacts to my posts as if they aren't worth any regard. I got the feeling that in his initial reaction to my post that he wanted town to believe that I was somebody who wasn't worth listening to. I might be wrong about this, but then again it's just a feeling. I'm not going to trust him anytime soon but there are other people I'm beginning to distrust even more.

Yui-Z: From the two games I've played with her I've seen her as town and I've seen her as mafia. As a fellow mafia member, I saw her trying a little to hard to make cases against people, and in town as x-com, she was more questioning and critical of people rather than straight up making case posts. I think she's town, but I don't have enough history with her for my analysis to be trusted.

Revisiting Alice: tbh is still my top suspect ever since SP flipped town. She warned me not to overfocus on her yesterday in the case that SP flips town and she was wrong for jumping on him, but that just seemed like a shallow thing to do - to warn me not to make the mistake of actually reading into her, even if I am wrong. There's no reason I shouldn't be reading into you, Alice. Your claim against bandwagoning on the SP lynch is that he was being distracting and sending town on tangents, and that's just a ridiculous reason to vote to lynch somebody and you know it. I'm not buying it at all.

Revisiting C R Y S T A L: I agree with Oath here, Crystal does seem to be going after easy targets this game but at the same time I've seen her do that plenty in past games where she was town/blue. She also has this angry sort of tone, but it only gives me an impression that she enjoys going after easier people because you have to put more effort into going after stronger people and that's not what she tends to do. My gut is telling me she's town despite behavior that might say otherwise.

I probably missed somebody again but w/e.

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I know I'm not being as analytical as I could be here, but like I said I'm a little rushed lately and promise that if I survive to day two I'll return as a stronger player because it'll be the weekend for me.

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...why can't I get tbt in the cellar I could get rich for my efforts here. Why u so anti-mafia mods?

Petition for cellar tbt!

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Oh and Ryan88: Town reads. Made a silly claim like I thought he would, and I don't think he's being told to do the things he's doing by a fellow mafia member in quicktopic. He should speak up a little more though.
 
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