BlueSkittleWolf
Let's Go Home, Hide.
Thank god! I thought because I slept in, I'd be modkilled.. :c
Mafia TBT Mini Mafia [Game Over/Town Win]
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kittenrobotarmy
JOLLY COOPERATION
The game started today, you can't really be modkilled for inactivity on the first day.
There's not much to post about, so it's been fairly quiet.
There's not much to post about, so it's been fairly quiet.
I wanna do my "talk-about-each-candidate" bit but we have no striking suspects yet (i'll probably do that bit later in the Day though 
). I guess it's too early to decide who to lynch, but we should not only pay attention to petty details in their posts, but the general idea of it, albeit more closely. Are they diverting attention on a fellow scum? Are they constantly trying to protect confirmed scum? Are they pushing attention to a confirmed Town member? (I personally encourage small PM circles with confirmed town members) If so, question them! They'll be bound to slip-up in each post and then the town (well, 20% of them ) can put together the contradictions and confirm their alignment. Judging from the last games scum generally try to subtly defend someone, but on some, if not most, unfortunate cases the ones mistakenly defending turn out to be blue =P
And i guess I should post more too to avoid unnecessary suspicion? It is the holidays anyway so that's no problem
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Oh yeah, there's BlueLeaf (didn't read the voting thread after this post). But I usually would like to hear what they have to say before voting for a suspect.
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(didnt read the voting thread before*** the main post)
). I guess it's too early to decide who to lynch, but we should not only pay attention to petty details in their posts, but the general idea of it, albeit more closely. Are they diverting attention on a fellow scum? Are they constantly trying to protect confirmed scum? Are they pushing attention to a confirmed Town member? (I personally encourage small PM circles with confirmed town members) If so, question them! They'll be bound to slip-up in each post and then the town (well, 20% of them ) can put together the contradictions and confirm their alignment. Judging from the last games scum generally try to subtly defend someone, but on some, if not most, unfortunate cases the ones mistakenly defending turn out to be blue =PAnd i guess I should post more too to avoid unnecessary suspicion? It is the holidays anyway so that's no problem
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Oh yeah, there's BlueLeaf (didn't read the voting thread after this post). But I usually would like to hear what they have to say before voting for a suspect.
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(didnt read the voting thread before*** the main post)
Well I dunno what to say but it seems not right about Blueleaf well you see he post stuff well you know he contributes much but it seems not right about his post I dunno.
What if he is a townie and not interest of his role?
Well in Mafia II he is a townie and he contributes much, even he is a townie he still works hard for the town members.
Proof his role: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?111874-TBT-Mafia-II-Mafia-Strike-Back
and if he's role is blue well maybe he doesn't want to screw up? (I dunno what to say)
What if he is a Mafia and doesn't want to screw up the game?
Good question, but for me I'm not 100% sure about this and I'm kinda worried if we lynch him what if we mistaken lynch him? And what if he is part of the town?
Well it's still pre-game so I will just wait still somethings up.
What if he is a townie and not interest of his role?
Well in Mafia II he is a townie and he contributes much, even he is a townie he still works hard for the town members.
Proof his role: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?111874-TBT-Mafia-II-Mafia-Strike-Back
and if he's role is blue well maybe he doesn't want to screw up? (I dunno what to say)
What if he is a Mafia and doesn't want to screw up the game?
Good question, but for me I'm not 100% sure about this and I'm kinda worried if we lynch him what if we mistaken lynch him? And what if he is part of the town?
Well it's still pre-game so I will just wait still somethings up.
oath2order
#Porygon2024
Well, if I'd have to make any guesses as to people's roles, I'd say BlueSkittleWolf is something important, judging by how he/she was worried about sleeping in past the timer.
I wouldn't be surprised if VD was mafia. If you remember from IRC Mafia, the person who usually tried to get things in motion and rush things along would be mafia.
i am just repeating this now but oh well PEOPLE START POSTING k thanks. post your thoughts!
Yeah, there's my first and so far only suspicion.
BlueSkittleWolf
Let's Go Home, Hide.
I'm worried about sleeping past the timer because I was meant to be getting up for something else and I'm pretty sure my phone is going to start puffing smoke shortly of how it's been acting.
But, in all seriousness, I'd think Oath2order as he's just assuming people are different things without good reasoning.
Sleeping in past a timer may be because I'd like to get up in time... ._.
Village Dweller? What's the reasoning behind that? I'm highly confused...
oath2order
#Porygon2024
Oh, please, BSW, you only say me because I thought you were something important. I didn't even accuse you of mafia.
And please read. I said I thought VillageDweller was mafia because he's trying to get people to start posting. And, as it turns out, in most games of mafia, especially in IRC Mafia, the one who tries to get people to start talking, tends to be mafia.
And please read. I said I thought VillageDweller was mafia because he's trying to get people to start posting. And, as it turns out, in most games of mafia, especially in IRC Mafia, the one who tries to get people to start talking, tends to be mafia.
Superpenguin
Penguins! <3
Okay, well, I'd like to bring a new name up to the table. BellBringerGreen
Right after the game officially started, BBG contacted me through PMs. He was literally telling me who we should kill and for extremely stupid reasons if I may add:
Yes, he is telling me to bring up Kippla to be killed just because of how she played annoyingly in previous games, which would make for an easy Day One lynch. BBG was town in all previous games and he made little if any attempt to actually make his own suspicion post about anybody during the course of the games. Now, in this game he is coming to me straight away to get me to bring up a lynch candidate, so he doesn't draw any attention upon himself. So, of course I asked him why he was telling me any of this to which he responded with:
BBG, you were a town player for ALL THREE GAMES! I was a town player for only ONE of the games. And, seriously, you NEVER attracted suspicion to yourself. You were never a target for lynch, you were hardly ever a threat to the mafia. It makes no sense as to why you are trying to get me to tell the thread your suspicions for you.
Right after the game officially started, BBG contacted me through PMs. He was literally telling me who we should kill and for extremely stupid reasons if I may add:
BBG said:
Yes, he is telling me to bring up Kippla to be killed just because of how she played annoyingly in previous games, which would make for an easy Day One lynch. BBG was town in all previous games and he made little if any attempt to actually make his own suspicion post about anybody during the course of the games. Now, in this game he is coming to me straight away to get me to bring up a lynch candidate, so he doesn't draw any attention upon himself. So, of course I asked him why he was telling me any of this to which he responded with:
BBG said:
BBG, you were a town player for ALL THREE GAMES! I was a town player for only ONE of the games. And, seriously, you NEVER attracted suspicion to yourself. You were never a target for lynch, you were hardly ever a threat to the mafia. It makes no sense as to why you are trying to get me to tell the thread your suspicions for you.
BlueSkittleWolf
Let's Go Home, Hide.
Oh, well, that makes a lot of sense. I originally think you were accusing me because I was worried about sleeping past the timer. o.0 It makes me confused. Just like everything else.. At least you explained. That helps!
But, I didn't accuse you because you accused me- it looked like you were accusing people out of nowhere with no to little evidence. It was what I thought. x3
Response in bold
I wanted to PM someone new and try to play the game in a new light. I was not telling you to tell the thread my suspicions? If so, can you please tell me where?
I won't deny that I suspect Kippla. But I don't see anywhere in my PM that told you to tell the thread anything?
I wanted to PM someone new and try to play the game in a new light. I was not telling you to tell the thread my suspicions? If so, can you please tell me where?
I won't deny that I suspect Kippla. But I don't see anywhere in my PM that told you to tell the thread anything?
Superpenguin
Penguins! <3
Did you make a response in the quote? I don't see any bold.
I felt that it was implied that you wanted me to tell the thread instead you in this:
It seemed to me like you were telling me to tell others because I don't "make myself look suspicious."
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OBVIOUSLY I don't think that is a good reason lynch Kippla okay we all know that she is annoying and post a lot but that doesn't mean that we should lynch her, well for me I don't care she post a lot as long as she contribute the game.
(Sorry, left out the bold)
To answer why I decided to PM you and not anyone else:
I didn't want to follow most directions and just PM the most seasoned player (or the player that looks the most seasoned) with a thought. I guess I was wrong about the experience part. Anyway, I just wanted to just try something new and see how it played out. It was probably a bad idea considering you revealed the whole PM word by word but that's fine, I guess =P
If you want to vote for me, go ahead, I just wanted to answer the questions you probably wanted before the chance I'm lynched.
To answer why I decided to PM you and not anyone else:
I didn't want to follow most directions and just PM the most seasoned player (or the player that looks the most seasoned) with a thought. I guess I was wrong about the experience part. Anyway, I just wanted to just try something new and see how it played out. It was probably a bad idea considering you revealed the whole PM word by word but that's fine, I guess =P
If you want to vote for me, go ahead, I just wanted to answer the questions you probably wanted before the chance I'm lynched.
I feel like people would be pushing for Kippla to get lynched on Day One because Day One is such an up-in-the-air lynch and Kippla is an easy target (Think Dolby / Beary509). It's true that generally many people have often asked them to cut down on spam .. but by now we are all very familiar with their posting habits to be able to handle it.
Speaking on my behalf alone, I would not want to get Kippla lynched on Day One, because looking at her previous game plays (posts) .. they're pretty much all identical. Nothing has stood out or changed in the way she posts, which is a good sign for the time being. As opposed to other players like BlueLeaf for the following reasons:
If he is a blue role .. well he played as an Assassin. In my opinion that's the closest thing to a blue role that we can use right now. He still contributed greatly to the town discussions. It was noticeable when SP + Oath2Order were Mafia that they stopped contributing greatly to the Town discussions. Now we have BlueLeaf following this pattern.
The problem here is .. is this really enough evidence that will point us to Mafia on Day One? Or is this something we should keep in mind for later?
TLDR; READ IT. >:{
Speaking on my behalf alone, I would not want to get Kippla lynched on Day One, because looking at her previous game plays (posts) .. they're pretty much all identical. Nothing has stood out or changed in the way she posts, which is a good sign for the time being. As opposed to other players like BlueLeaf for the following reasons:
If he is a blue role .. well he played as an Assassin. In my opinion that's the closest thing to a blue role that we can use right now. He still contributed greatly to the town discussions. It was noticeable when SP + Oath2Order were Mafia that they stopped contributing greatly to the Town discussions. Now we have BlueLeaf following this pattern.
The problem here is .. is this really enough evidence that will point us to Mafia on Day One? Or is this something we should keep in mind for later?
TLDR; READ IT. >:{
Anti - BlueLeaf Campaign
Sorry for not being active as much! I was busy doing something. First off, I'd like to state that I only have one vote so far. You may be thinking that it's not such a big deal. Well, one vote makes a difference! I'd like for you to bring attention to the first quote. This post was made PREGAME. As an assassin in game 3, I used flimsy logic like this and it didn't go so well. We don't want to use posts that were made before the game even began. We can most likely ignore posts made during pre-game, unless they give hints of a role.
Now, the important part. The second and third quotes. In the third quote, look at Karla's "checks." As for the first one, I do not recall restating what has been already said. If I have, feel free to quote it. As for the second one, I said myself in the second quote that it was obvious. As for the third one, at this point in the game where we have nearly no info, nothing is going to be as contributive as a post later in the game, with new info. I was merely stating something that would cause people to look at the posts so we can start a discussion. Discussion gets the game going and helps us in the aid of finding scum.
Well, there's my defense. If I failed to convince you of my innocence, I won't act desperate. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
Sorry for not being active as much! I was busy doing something. First off, I'd like to state that I only have one vote so far. You may be thinking that it's not such a big deal. Well, one vote makes a difference! I'd like for you to bring attention to the first quote. This post was made PREGAME. As an assassin in game 3, I used flimsy logic like this and it didn't go so well. We don't want to use posts that were made before the game even began. We can most likely ignore posts made during pre-game, unless they give hints of a role.
Now, the important part. The second and third quotes. In the third quote, look at Karla's "checks." As for the first one, I do not recall restating what has been already said. If I have, feel free to quote it. As for the second one, I said myself in the second quote that it was obvious. As for the third one, at this point in the game where we have nearly no info, nothing is going to be as contributive as a post later in the game, with new info. I was merely stating something that would cause people to look at the posts so we can start a discussion. Discussion gets the game going and helps us in the aid of finding scum.
Well, there's my defense. If I failed to convince you of my innocence, I won't act desperate. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
BBG saying that he wanted SP to speak for him as he looks less suspicious is pretty telling. An inherent mafia trait is being worried about looking suspicious long before you actually do look suspicious.
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So you didn't want to PM a seasoned player, yet you explain your pm to SP as this: "I felt like you had longer experience as a town player"
So make your mind up?
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So you didn't want to PM a seasoned player, yet you explain your pm to SP as this: "I felt like you had longer experience as a town player"
So make your mind up?
#Yolo
Every time a post was made though, you would come into the thread to read it then leave. :{ The problem is, looking at your past game plays you really stepped up for Town. Now you're barely contributing and it's falling in line with how SP + Oath2Order played when they were Mafia in Game 3. Yes that post was made pre-game .. but looking at the post above yours it's indicating that the roles were already sent out by that time. Which means you would have been influenced by your role since that very first post that you quoted.
This was the post above yours:
The first thing I noticed was the change in quality of your posts. When you were playing in the previous games, you were contributing tips that actually helped the Town. You were stating ideas that went beyond the Mafia thread (in terms of how you thought Mafia would play and what they would do - what to look out for). The change / no change in KP is common knowledge amongst Town that doesn't need pointing out. It feels like you are trying to play in a Town mindset so you're trying to appear as if you're helping Town - but really the tips you are trying to give us is just stuff we already know. :{ Generally I find you are much more forward when you play as Town. You post a lot more often & you put in a lot more of your opinion in the thread. So far, you've only posted when you had to defend yourself.
I know it's a little early, which is why I do not suggest we lynch you. You are still definitely one to keep an eye out for and to keep in the spotlight.
Every time a post was made though, you would come into the thread to read it then leave. :{ The problem is, looking at your past game plays you really stepped up for Town. Now you're barely contributing and it's falling in line with how SP + Oath2Order played when they were Mafia in Game 3. Yes that post was made pre-game .. but looking at the post above yours it's indicating that the roles were already sent out by that time. Which means you would have been influenced by your role since that very first post that you quoted.
This was the post above yours:
The first thing I noticed was the change in quality of your posts. When you were playing in the previous games, you were contributing tips that actually helped the Town. You were stating ideas that went beyond the Mafia thread (in terms of how you thought Mafia would play and what they would do - what to look out for). The change / no change in KP is common knowledge amongst Town that doesn't need pointing out. It feels like you are trying to play in a Town mindset so you're trying to appear as if you're helping Town - but really the tips you are trying to give us is just stuff we already know. :{ Generally I find you are much more forward when you play as Town. You post a lot more often & you put in a lot more of your opinion in the thread. So far, you've only posted when you had to defend yourself.
I know it's a little early, which is why I do not suggest we lynch you. You are still definitely one to keep an eye out for and to keep in the spotlight.
kittenrobotarmy
JOLLY COOPERATION
With the small amount of players, there's probably only one DT. The DT should:
1) Find a confirmed innocent. This innocent will tell the Town of any checks that come back red.
2) Rolecheck suspects. If they are innocent, don't do anything. If they are Mafia, tell the innocent and they will give that info to the Town. They can just say '_____ has come back Mafia Underling/Roleblocker.
It's nowhere near the best plan, but i
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*it will work.
1) Find a confirmed innocent. This innocent will tell the Town of any checks that come back red.
2) Rolecheck suspects. If they are innocent, don't do anything. If they are Mafia, tell the innocent and they will give that info to the Town. They can just say '_____ has come back Mafia Underling/Roleblocker.
It's nowhere near the best plan, but i
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This idea is good, yes, but the interference with the Godfather can be misleading and can bite the DT back. I would suggest the DT to find at least 2 innocents and PM both of them the same message and who the other person they PM'd is. If the Godfather is able to push blame on the real innocent, then we can lynch him/her the following day. One loss of a town member for one loss of a Mafia scum seems like a good but risky idea.
At your second point, it would suck for the innocent to give info to the players because it's like the DT's bait for Mafia at night. I know it protects the DT's identity and what not, so that is why I recommend the paramedic to protect the one revealing a role the night after. Or PM circles could be good too, but only on confirmed innocents (on the DT's case).
