Mafia TBT Mini Mafia IV: Fire Emblem Kingmaker - Official Game OVER

[Prof Gallows]

I am Arthur, King of the Britons! Who's castle is that?


Okay. Let's get to work gang.

 

[KermitTea]

I am Arthur, King of the Britons! Who's castle is that?


Okay. Let's get to work gang.

Are you going to start? o-o

 

[Ashtot]

I am Arthur, King of the Britons! Who's castle is that?


Okay. Let's get to work gang.

Quoting Monty Python.

Sounds like a good choice to me.

 

[Keen]

I enjoy how I've only posted once in this thread because I actually thought the game started later on Wednesday, or next Wednesday and all you guys have been doing is trying to get me lynched for no reason at all.

Well, Gallows, I'm playing to 'win' so don't lynch me.

As for not defending myself sooner, I've been in class since 5am this morning and its not 11:40pm so yeah.

 

[Horus]

To add my thoughts on who we should lynch. I'm thinking Kayla or SP. Both seem to be really on the offense, SP especially. He's been attacking Oath a bunch and I don't really see a reason why. Kayla on the other hand has been going after Kuma for her activity. Maybe I'm just tired of the activity excuse but I don't think it's very justified and to me, looks like they're trying to shift the blame or at the very least, look active.


<Jer> only IRCers would kill admins on night one

I sort of agree with Jer's quote. Maybe not admins but going after strong players. Feels like something Kayla would do, so it only adds to my suspicions of her.

 

[Superpenguin]

To add my thoughts on who we should lynch. I'm thinking Kayla or SP. Both seem to be really on the offense, SP especially. He's been attacking Oath a bunch and I don't really see a reason why. Kayla on the other hand has been going after Kuma for her activity. Maybe I'm just tired of the activity excuse but I don't think it's very justified and to me, looks like they're trying to shift the blame or at the very least, look active.

You're accusing us for discussing and having conversations/questioning other players? Are you even serious right now? There's only an offense and a defense, and since I am not on the defense, I am on the offense. Just because people go after players doesn't automatically make them scum.

There's not even any blame to be shifting here either. I simply was questioning Oath, because he was the only one talking. Had someone else been talking, I would probably have some discussion with them in the same manner.

 

[Horus]

You're accusing us for discussing and having conversations/questioning other players? Are you even serious right now? There's only an offense and a defense, and since I am not on the defense, I am on the offense. Just because people go after players doesn't automatically make them scum.

There's not even any blame to be shifting here either. I simply was questioning Oath, because he was the only one talking. Had someone else been talking, I would probably have some discussion with them in the same manner.

No, not at all. Your questioning in particular seemed pointless. There was no reason behind your questioning of just Oath. Which you confirmed in the bold. If you were just trying to get information from your questioning of Oath then that's all fine and dandy but you were nitpicking each and every reply from him. I just find it odd behavior and worth thinking about. Additionally, I'm not saying you're automatically scum, my post was more about what I found suspicious instead of confirming a mafia member.

 

[iLoveYou]

To add my thoughts on who we should lynch. I'm thinking Kayla or SP. Both seem to be really on the offense, SP especially. He's been attacking Oath a bunch and I don't really see a reason why. Kayla on the other hand has been going after Kuma for her activity. Maybe I'm just tired of the activity excuse but I don't think it's very justified and to me, looks like they're trying to shift the blame or at the very least, look active.


<Jer> only IRCers would kill admins on night one

I sort of agree with Jer's quote. Maybe not admins but going after strong players. Feels like something Kayla would do, so it only adds to my suspicions of her.

Alright, let me explain myself:

If you guys still think I wanted to lynch Kuma for inactivity, then you're wrong. It's the WAY she posts that made me attack her. She literally only posts to say " oh sorry I can't post, I'm busy IRL ". Justin even quoted all her posts that lined up with the reasons I was attacking her this game. This attack was not coming out of thin air, this was based on the reality of the way she chooses to play this game.

My point is that Kuma is NOT inactive. She always keeps up with the threads, votes to avoid modkill and posts excuses as to why she is busy in real life. For example, she knew she was being called out and no one even told her. We just assume she is not a problem because she only posts about why she is busy IRL. She gets forgotten about every single game.

The point is, Kuma posted. She would have never posted if someone didn't call her out.

Next name we want to call out?

Most players also know why I targeted Kuma at the beginning of this game. We are not making the same mistake twice on players like her. As soon as she posted a good amount of posts that made me generally content, I immediately moved on and dropped her. She was not brought up again in the IRC when we were discussing the lynch. You guys also seem to forget that I challenged Farobi & PurplPanda as well:

Any of those names Ashton, would generally be doing Town a favour. Since Farobi is willing to contribute I'd suggest looking specifically at PurplPanda & Kuma for now. I'm not saying to ignore Farobi either friends, it's just 2/3 of those names are more priority to knock out before we have to rely on them later / guess their alignment later.

I am not saying this to try to clear myself either. I'm saying this so that you guys can see that amongst the hard attack on Kuma, I was also calling out the rest of them.

Last game, I targeted Farobi on Day One. Anyone who played that game is familiar with how hard I wanted Farobi to be lynched on Day One because of HIS posting habits.

One of the reasons why this could have happened was because of last game. You guys know how much of a fuss I made about Farobi, last game. He said he was going to improve since last game really. Although it's not seen as much in that game. Farobi is still always one to look out for. He is always likely to slide by to the end because he is never a threat to Mafia. Being a "non-threat" to Mafia means that can be used as an excuse to make it to the end without it looking odd. Same thing with Kuma. We generally think it's okay that these two make it to the end simply because they aren't threats, of course Mafia will always let them play until the end for that reason alone .. but imagine one time when they get Mafia roles themselves. :/ That provides way too much of a cover for them.

I do this every game on Day One. With no leads, how else do we get things started? The good Day One discussion of this game mostly happened thanks to myself, Superpenguin & Trundle in the thread. Horus you're accusing 2/3 of those players for the exact same reason Mafia will kill us off later in the game (assuming those 2 are also Town aligned). With you, it's hard to tell whether you are just being Horus or not.

I love you. >:L

 

[Elijo]

Still, having "posting habits" as an excuse to attempt to lynch me is illegitimate, to be honest, Kayla. Everyone has a bad habit, including me.

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And also, my habit mainly occurred in Mafia VI, so get off your high horse.

 

[iLoveYou]

Still, having "posting habits" as an excuse to attempt to lynch me is illegitimate, to be honest, Kayla. Everyone has a bad habit, including me.

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And also, my habit mainly occurred in Mafia VI, so get off your high horse.

I'm not trying to get you lynched at all today.

Just like Farobi, since he started upping his posting habits I've dropped him. I was explaining myself because it looked like people were misunderstanding why I was attacking you in the first place, on Day One. I had good reason to bring you up for Day One, you have a bad habit of getting to the end of each game and no one knowing anything about you or the role you're hiding. So the only way to fight that is to bring you up on a day like Day One where discussion is needed about anything.

& ya that's exactly why I'm wasn't going to let that mistake happen again. It's annoying that you even got that far just by posting the way you did and it's our fault for not calling you out. Which is why I decided to take the initiative to call you out first this game.

 

[iLoveYou]

I can't wait for VI to end so people can actually see what I'm talking about.

This describes Horus perfectly as well, anyone who followed Mafia III would have seen him survive until late game by posting nothing but meaningless or wishywashy non-commital posts.

Horus was Mafia in that game. That was enough of a good reason to get him lynched then and he flipped Mafia. It is always a good reason to look at / lynch players who are inactive or posting meaningless stuff in the thread as they too have a chance of being Mafia themselves.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Anyways, on to Day Two? I just posted that to explain myself to Horus .

 

[oath2order]

I can't wait for VI to end so people can actually see what I'm talking about.



Horus was Mafia in that game. That was enough of a good reason to get him lynched then and he flipped Mafia. It is always a good reason to look at / lynch players who are inactive or posting meaningless stuff in the thread as they too have a chance of being Mafia themselves.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Anyways, on to Day Two? I just posted that to explain myself to Horus .

Ugh, I know. I have things I want to say about players in this game and those in Mafia VI but I CAN'T.

 

[Horus]

Alright, let me explain myself:

If you guys still think I wanted to lynch Kuma for inactivity, then you're wrong. It's the WAY she posts that made me attack her. She literally only posts to say " oh sorry I can't post, I'm busy IRL ". Justin even quoted all her posts that lined up with the reasons I was attacking her this game. This attack was not coming out of thin air, this was based on the reality of the way she chooses to play this game.


Most players also know why I targeted Kuma at the beginning of this game. We are not making the same mistake twice on players like her. As soon as she posted a good amount of posts that made me generally content, I immediately moved on and dropped her. She was not brought up again in the IRC when we were discussing the lynch. You guys also seem to forget that I challenged Farobi & PurplPanda as well:

I do this every game on Day One. With no leads, how else do we get things started? The good Day One discussion of this game mostly happened thanks to myself, Superpenguin & Trundle in the thread. Horus you're accusing 2/3 of those players for the exact same reason Mafia will kill us off later in the game (assuming those 2 are also Town aligned). With you, it's hard to tell whether you are just being Horus or not.

I love you. >:L

I'm fine with you calling out someone who hasn't posted much to get their attention. I think it's a good idea actually. After one or two replies from her though, it just clogs up the thread with a useless argument. The arguments of You Vs Kuma and SP Vs Oath just dragged on. After their initial response we don't learn anything new except what they already said. Kuma being slightly busy or having some bad habits still and Oath just rephrasing to make it clearer. You guys aren't really creating more discussion from that, you're just burying the information we actually need.

So why do you want her to post more than her response? If she can't even keep up with her posts and reading the rest of the thread she's probably not an asset to Mafia. In fact she shouldn't even join Mafia games if she is that busy or doesn't like posting but she's 13 so peer pressure and mafia is the popular thing to do I guess. Anyway, I'm getting off track, you shouldn't trail a dead end.

And uh, try to prove what I italicized in my post wrong, I didn't read your argument with Kuma as much as I should have.



and like I said to SP, my opinions are mostly my speculation and thoughts, especially this early in the game
and ily2 I guess but lovers don't make their lover read something so big >:u

 

[iLoveYou]

You're right Horus, my argument with Kuma is taking up too much of the thread.

First time for everything!

Couple of players out there who reacted pretty funny when ashtot got made king. Im watching you's from here on out.

Its crazy good that we hit scum first day but this is an AMAZING distraction for some of the stronger players who may be scum to hide behind. Dont Everyone lose your heads and start roleclaiming just because of this.

My thoughts on posts like these .. they're too safe. It's generally feeding Town stuff that we already know. Gandalf is basically just re-capping the day for us & warning us about roleclaiming even though we already know that stuff. He's making himself appear active in the thread, but in a safe kind of way in the sense that .. his post definitely appears pro-Town.

The thing with Gandalf, is that he did suggest to give King to a player not actually posting seriously as "what are the chances Mafia would act this way so early". So that's kinda keeping me on the fence with him. If he were Mafia though, I'm pretty sure he knew that he had little chances of getting targeted by ANY King on Day One. If he is not Mafia, then he's just doing this to genuinely help us and I don't want to get that mixed up. So if anyone can provide feedback or anything then cools. Much needed.

Besides this, I can't really think of anything for Day Two. I'm not suggesting we lynch Gandalf. No, no, no. I'm just saying, this is what stood out for me most on Day One & why it did.

 

[oath2order]

I don't know what I'd say about posts that appear too pro-town. Gandalf just looks to be doing what Hikari did. Recapping the night.

 

[KermitTea]

I've never played with or seen Gandalf play, but he does seem to be recapping & not contributing many ideas of his own. I'm sorry I can't elaborate on it, but maybe some other people can?

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Also, Gandalf said to the King to not be afraid of giving King to a player that has attracted attention, not necessarily a player who isn't taking the game seriously? Unless those two are synonymous.

 

[Horus]

I've never played with or seen Gandalf play, but he does seem to be recapping & not contributing many ideas of his own. I'm sorry I can't elaborate on it, but maybe some other people can?

No you actually did a good job describing my thoughts on him too. Kind of acting like the narrator of a story if you know what I mean. I'd like to know his list of suspicious people and who'd be a decent lynch

Would also like to know what Jeremy thinks also

 

[KermitTea]

Hm, then at this point I would also like to bring out a few other names: Minties, River, Mino.
I have never played with them or seen them play. I believe that these three have not posted a lot (saw Mino post once maybe?), but I would like to know what you guys think of them.
Also there is Dolby who I believe hasn't posted anything after replacing Tina that we should all remember.
I am not suggesting these people as lynch candidates, just wondering your opinions since I'm unfamiliar

 

[KarlaKGB]

Going off the only semi-useful post that Purplpanda made:

In TBT mafia VI, Jeremy wasn't posting a lot, and he was actually town. I think we can safely take him off the list, unless there is some outstanding evidence. Tina posted a few times in TBT mafia VI, and she was also town, so we can probably take her off of the list. Prin, however, I am a bit suspicious of. In TBT mafia VI, she roleclaimed immediately, and was posting a lot. However, I haven't gone through all of the pages, so I am not finalizing any suspicions. I have no idea on Mino and River, though.

While the names here can easily be dismissed as Mafia making safe fluff posts, I do think we should look at Jeremy a little closer. He's posted very little.
One of his posts is a rather underwhelming response to hitting Mafia with the first lynch.
Another is him questioning how I knew I took a hit:

How do you know this? Did I miss something?

Honestly, I think he would know better and this just strikes me as an attempt to cast doubt.

Would also like to hear Mino's thoughts on suspects. Night 2 would be a good time to start shooting the established lurkers.

 

[Elijo]

There's actually quite a bit of people that haven't spoken about their suspicions yet. But for now, I need to hear from Jeremy and Gandalf, as they seem to not be contributing, but like Kayla, I'm not suggesting that the king should lynch Gandalf either.