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Mafia TBT Mini Mafia X: And Then There Were None (Game Over/Mafia Win)

How is it even a risk, though. With town's numbers, we can easily win if Cory is mafia and we handed over the blues, especially since we'll find out Cory is mafia so that'll only leave one mafia left in the game. It's not that hard to find out if Cory is leading us right or wrong just as long as players remain vocal when they see some scummy business going on.

How will we find out if Cory's mafia though? Let us assume Veteran Godfather with no town veteran. He leads us to lynch someone who claimed the same role. Let's say it's a townie role. Judging by the game, there are two sets of town aligned people that are on the same role. Just to be clear, it'll look like this, still assuming Vet. Godfather with no town vet.

Mafia Thomas Rogers and Townie Thomas Rogers
Townie Ethel Rogers and Townie Ethel Rogers
Townie Vera Claythorne and Townie Vera Claythorne
Townie Tony Marston and Townie Tony Marston

What, is it just going to be randomly lynching these people until we find scum?

It seems very risky because as I've said numerous times, he is not mod-confirmed town. Just because he says he's the veteran doesn't mean he is. I'n surprised you're not taking a more critical look at this, Superpenguin. Again though, I'd like to hear from everybody else. Since people don't seem to be checking the thread, I'm going to VM them.
 
There are pros and cons of executing the plan. Like Oath said There may be mafia roles for blues. But on the other hand this is the only chance we have to find out scum and finish the game. But again this is incredibly cheap and the game would finish really quickly. I'd like to hear some other people's thoughts before we actually use or not use Cory's plan.
 
I don't think it's wise to mass roleclaim. I think it's cheap and completely ruined last game. But if we absolutely have to, I'll grin and bare it. I just wanna know why Ash was so quick to accept it knowing that we don't know if Cory is completely in the clear. Idk. Something seems fishy.
 
Well either way it is too late in the day now to go through with Cory's plan. We have a little over ten hours and so far nothing from a lot of players. Honestly I have my suspicions, but nothing I'm ready to go lynch someone over. Now is either time for a no lynch or an inactive, as much as I hate to say it.
 
Well either way it is too late in the day now to go through with Cory's plan. We have a little over ten hours and so far nothing from a lot of players. Honestly I have my suspicions, but nothing I'm ready to go lynch someone over. Now is either time for a no lynch or an inactive, as much as I hate to say it.
Lynch Gallows?
 
Shouldn't he have been modkilled last night? He hasn't said a single thing since he signed up for the game.
 
Pretty scummy way to think about it. Better for a town lacking information to lose someone to a lynch that was going to get modkilled anyway.

Well, that's a fair enough point. But we could be finding scum and just leaving Gallows to the modkill. Granted, he could be bored townie.

Then again, mafia in hiding is what he could be too.
 
Well, that's a fair enough point. But we could be finding scum and just leaving Gallows to the modkill. Granted, he could be bored townie.

Then again, mafia in hiding is what he could be too.

So I suggest we lynch him. No one is stepping up with reason to do otherwise so i'm just going to put in my vote now and head to bed.
 
Y'know, I hate to keep doing this (not really since it's a Cory plan) but I'm starting to wonder if it's entirely possible for a blue role to only exist as a red and not as a blue.

This is the biggest qualm I have with Cory's plan (outside of how lame it felt to mass roleclaim in Birds). It is possible that any conflicting roles could be strictly blue. I know there have been more posts about it since this specific quote, this was just the first one I read. I feel like we've seen first hand how tricky conflicting roles can be in this game. I'm saying this because I found everyone's wild pursuit of Mew3 completely unjust and at the same time I also honestly believe that Fel is town.

I can easily see us acting on Cory's plan, getting two conflicting roleclaims, and getting caught up in role claims between two blues allowing mafia to do their work while we lynch town members. Oath and I have the same view on this plan. I think that it has the most potential to be a complete 2 or 3 day distraction.

We should all afk like the others and just see what happens.
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but actually I've been considering dropping out this game and I feel really ****ty because of it. I'm just transitioning out of my current living situation, getting in at a new job, going back and forth from my college town to home moving boxes and skyping I simply haven't spent any time with any part of the board. I thought simply dropping out would be better than giving some excuse.

after reading through everything I missed and rereading other things, I still can't get over the Mew3 bandwagon. Saying "it's so hard to be a detective" or whatever she said in a game where we're essentially all nitpicking posts for information is in no way a role claim. After fully catching up, I'm not really surprised that Ashton initiated the possibility of that being a role claim. I think Gandalf's last check in was pretty spot on regarding Ashtot and SP... Sure everyone jumped on it when it came close to time to vote because there weren't any better options but even after she defended herself town went through with that sloppy as hell lynch. Idk, Im just still pretty disappointed in that.

I'll be back later today with ample time to post more before voting. expect your favorite mother to be contributing from here on out when available :')

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Forgot to bold names because I posted in a hurry....
 
Sorry for not speaking much for a while, and the length of this post - Been a long and busy day and me and Feloreena has been out and unable to come online until now. I've just read through several pages of new posts. I think that there's pro's and con's to the "Cory plan" like others have already mentioned but Oath really hit the nail on the head when he wrote the posts bringing up this bit:

How will we find out if Cory's mafia though? Let us assume Veteran Godfather with no town veteran. He leads us to lynch someone who claimed the same role. Let's say it's a townie role. Judging by the game, there are two sets of town aligned people that are on the same role. Just to be clear, it'll look like this, still assuming Vet. Godfather with no town vet.

Mafia Thomas Rogers and Townie Thomas Rogers
Townie Ethel Rogers and Townie Ethel Rogers
Townie Vera Claythorne and Townie Vera Claythorne
Townie Tony Marston and Townie Tony Marston

Seeing as it does seem possible for two people to both have the exact same name and role (It's not entirely confirmed but it's very likely!) I think we'll end up with a whole bunch of counter claims and even the roles that are unique would not be confirmed townies in this setup. It seems "High risk, low reward" to me and if the list would end up in the wrong hands it'd do us tons of harm. This whole game has a very oldschool vibe to it and honestly I think the best way forward is to simply mention who we find the most suspicious and then see if other people agree.

Professor Gallows should have been modkilled or replaced already in my opinion - But it is ultimately Jeremy who decides that. Maybe he was not killed already because he's been talking in Mafia chat, and Jeremy decided that was sufficient, but I doubt it.

There's certainly been some issues between me and SuperPenguin in the past and perhaps I crossed the line earlier, but I truly do feel that is unfair and hypocritical how I've been treated compared to him. If I make a post that is slightly too long, it's "Fluff, a distraction, and I should be killed instantly regardless of town/scum alignment!" but when SuperPenguin makes 25 posts about Potatoes that's perfectly okay? And when I call someone mentally unstable that's something to make a massive deal about, but when I'm called tons of insults far worse than that a few games back I don't recall many people speaking up to defend me. It's a very biased way of looking at things because most of you know SuperPenguin better than me, and it's full of hypocrisy.

Anyways, people always say that "We cannot lynch SuperPenguin - He's a strong player!" and this has been happening for many games in a row now. He's not afraid to say and do whatever he feels like when he's town, even when it doesn't make much sense to others. When he was scum last game, however, he pushed his aggressive behaviour a bit too far and got killed over it. We all know he's smart, and that he adapts his playstyle as needed. I bet he learned from those previous rounds and is now taking a much more laid back approach. If he just posts the bare minimum, nobody is going to want to lynch him, because he's "strong" and "valuable" - And therefore, I think he's playing the game excellently, but I also think he's Mafia. He's too different from his usual self to be town aligned, in my opinion.

So right now, I'm leaning on voting for either Prof Gallows or SuperPenguin.
 
Well, if Gallows gets replaced, that means Purpl comes in. Honestly, I'm sorry Gallows, but I really don't know why you signed up. I'm sorry if you had a horrible personal event that took you away from the site. I'll just vote for you. I mean, it's not like anybody else is up for lynch and nobody is talking.
 
I don't know why, but I still don't trust Cory or Ash. But I don't trust SP or Sataric even more. I'm not gonna lynch an inactive so I'm placing my vote on SP. I'm tired of the arguing between you two in the thread and it'd be a lot more peaceful game with one of you dead, town or scum. Sorry.
 
Again, just apologising for not posting in any discussions earlier as I have been out all day.

I don't understand why Cory has 'wasted' his Veteran role. If he is a Veteran for town, he should have been far more vocal and trying to bait mafia to waste a kill on him, but instead he's sat back saying very little, and now claims 'this is how he plays blue'. That might be true, but surely you should adapt your playstyle based on the type of blue role you're given? I can understand a detective or vigilante (while they have shots) being quiet, but there's no reason for a veteran to be quiet. Now you've revealed you're a veteran, and if you're town mafia won't even try to kill you. This is why I am not entirely convinced if you're town. This game is clearly quite different based on the roles and double names, so it's possible you might be the only veteran, but it's also possible the only veteran in the game is mafia. Either way the role claim plan doesn't bother me as my role is already out, but I can completely understand if blues are worried about it.

I also wanted to bring up Prof Gallows. I thought he would have been modkilled by now or replaced. I got the impression that Jeremy might be stricter about inactivity as he wanted this to be an active game with lots of conversation. Like others have mentioned, perhaps he is still active in mafia chat. Either way he is useless to have around like this and I hope something will be done about it.

Regarding any concerns/worries that remains about my Tony Marston role - I know for certain that we will have doubleclaims of names in this game (it's very weird but it seems to be how it is). Like I said in an earlier post, people can put me forward for lynch to confirm this if they're still not sure. But the way I see it is in this game Jeremy wants to make it so compiling a mass roleclaim list is worthless, he wants lynches to come from people's behaviour and discussion. If you think I am scummy in any way, then of course I deserve to be lynched. I just don't see why a mafia player would bring their name forward like this with a conflicting townie role to get a townie lynched, there's very little gain from that.
 
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There's certainly been some issues between me and SuperPenguin in the past and perhaps I crossed the line earlier, but I truly do feel that is unfair and hypocritical how I've been treated compared to him. If I make a post that is slightly too long, it's "Fluff, a distraction, and I should be killed instantly regardless of town/scum alignment!" but when SuperPenguin makes 25 posts about Potatoes that's perfectly okay? And when I call someone mentally unstable that's something to make a massive deal about, but when I'm called tons of insults far worse than that a few games back I don't recall many people speaking up to defend me. It's a very biased way of looking at things because most of you know SuperPenguin better than me, and it's full of hypocrisy.
Well I'm new to Mafia so I do not know whats going on between you and Nick. Instead of calling each other names like little kids you both should pay attention to the game. Now since we have literally no other leads I'm going to be voting for Gallows, due to his inactivity.
 
Well I'm new to Mafia so I do not know whats going on between you and Nick. Instead of calling each other names like little kids you both should pay attention to the game. Now since we have literally no other leads I'm going to be voting for Gallows, due to his inactivity.

You are absolutely right - We should. I actually have nothing against SuperPenguin as a person - I just feel that he has treated me unfairly multiple times in the past and that it was very uncalled for. Truth is, we actually have several things in common - Heck, I even really like birds! I have apologized to him in the past and I'd be willing to bury the hatchet permanently if he'd do the same in return. Drama does not belong in Mafia games.
 
Again, just apologising for not posting in any discussions earlier as I have been out all day.

I don't understand why Cory has 'wasted' his Veteran role. If he is a Veteran for town, he should have been far more vocal and trying to bait mafia to waste a kill on him, but instead he's sat back saying very little, and now claims 'this is how he plays blue'. That might be true, but surely you should adapt your playstyle based on the type of blue role you're given? I can understand a detective or vigilante (while they have shots) being quiet, but there's no reason for a veteran to be quiet. Now you've revealed you're a veteran, and if you're town mafia won't even try to kill you. This is why I am not entirely convinced if you're town. This game is clearly quite different based on the roles and double names, so it's possible you might be the only veteran, but it's also possible the only veteran in the game is mafia. Either way the role claim plan doesn't bother me as my role is already out, but I can completely understand if blues are worried about it.

I also wanted to bring up Prof Gallows. I thought he would have been modkilled by now or replaced. I got the impression that Jeremy might be stricter about inactivity as he wanted this to be an active game with lots of conversation. Like others have mentioned, perhaps he is still active in mafia chat. Either way he is useless to have around like this and I hope something will be done about it.

Regarding any concerns/worries that remains about my Tony Marston role - I know for certain that we will have doubleclaims of names in this game (it's very weird but it seems to be how it is). Like I said in an earlier post, people can put me forward for lynch to confirm this if they're still not sure. But the way I see it is in this game Jeremy wants to make it so compiling a mass roleclaim list is worthless, he wants lynches to come from people's behaviour and discussion. If you think I am scummy in any way, then of course I deserve to be lynched. I just don't see why a mafia player would bring their name forward like this with a conflicting townie role to get a townie lynched, there's very little gain from that.

And you think you would do better? Ya okay.
 
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