Mafia TBT Mini Mafia XIV: My Little Mafia: Deception is Magic [Endgame - Ponyville wins!]

[Feloreena]

FFS alise. -_-

@Campy - thoughts on Dolby? Know any reason that he wants to defend you? Dolby is acting weird so it would be good to know any info.

On the topic of BellGreen, I thought his 'Player Thoughts' post was way too safe. Read here:

This, it's honestly really cowardly and we won't get anywhere with pointless tags. Also, that tag about Trundle being Daykiller was removed around the time it was called out, lol =P

Spoiler: Player Thoughts

Alise - In the middle. She's posted some of her opinions but most are distracting, all-caps posts. I don't think she would be a good lynch candidate, more like an annoyed vig shot or detective inspection.

Cory - In my opinion, he seems like town. He proved that he's unlynchable so I'd see no point in considering him for lynch; perhaps a detective inspection if we need to.

ryan88 - He has posted literally nothing of value so far, and it doesn't help that he claimed earlier which is just confusing. There was more than enough time for him to post his opinions and it's so annoying when he doesn't post.

gamora - Personally I'm leaning towards town for gamora. She posted usual Day One posts but other than that her posts significantly improve so far imo.

Crystal - On the fence. Most of her posts seem fluffy. But at least she's been posting unlike the inactives.

Axeler137 - I definitely think his current posts make up for what he's missed. It's not rehashed anything and you can tell he's putting in the effort. He should definitely be an asset to Town.

Ashtot - Posting his well-known leader town posts. Until someone were to post brick thick evidence otherwise, I'm pretty sure he is town. Lots of his posts help conversation, probably because some people in this game hate it when people aren't talking.

Trundle - Same deal with Ashtot. Looking at his posts he tends to call out quiet players to move discussion even if they don't even post in the end.

Campy - For her first game I think she's doing very well. There's not much to judge since she hasn't posted so much but I think she's town.

Feloreena - She has been contributing A LOT, and for someone who's in university that's surprising considering some of the inactives. If she isn't town I'd honestly be really surprised.

Rage - Still not too sure about her. She's not inactive but she's not very active either; I think she'll slip under the cracks so I'm personally watching her.

Lauren - I see little reason to suspect her. She's been posting quite a bit and her opinions make a lot of sense. Pretty sure she's town, as of now.

Dolby - He's one of those players he usually only talks when he's called out for his inactivity. He seems town but he's not doing a good job posting as town.

Zigzag911 - Ehh; at least they've been posting about their opinions on the players, like most people in the game. Honestly I don't think he's scum, just a newbie.

Cariad - Her posts aren't the best IMO. She's been complaining about spam to read but she hasn't really done much to stop it.

Sumemr - Leaning towards town; she's done a good job voicing her opinions and she seems pro-town for a newer player.

KarlaKGB - I honestly don't know much about him. Personally I don't think he's been posting too much crap to make me annoyed but it seems like a general change in post style.

Just something I thought I'd do before I go start on schoolwork.

This post just seems really safe to me. There's way too many people he believes to be town. Even some of the players that others are finding scummy, with no proper reasons to back it up really. There's no pointing fingers on anyone. It's a big post that doesn't really help us much when you look at it closely.

Where's Rage and ZigZag at?

 

[Lauren]

Axeler, do you even filter? I've only been answering questions? No no. I have brought my ideas and thought to the table on the topic of Ryan, I directly asked karla about a certain post and I also call people out, now your failure to notice these annoy me. How I react when people call me out is none of your damn business. I will react how I wish and I will do so accordingly. Now if there is and I quote karla now, a right way to react please tell me because id like to know. If Sataric actually had grounds to what he put then yes I would have reacted a lot differently but yet he hadnt as I had been in the game a day and a half less than everyone else. So please continue because I will answer your question unless that is wrong.

 

[KarlaKGB]

aright well we dont need to shoot her now

 

[Lauren]

Also I'll be placing my vote on Ryan for reasons I have stated throughout the day period.

 

[Ashtot]

Also I'll be placing my vote on Ryan for reasons I have stated throughout the day period.

I'll also be voting for Ryan unless a better lynch candidate shows up. I think the Karla lynch is completely baseless.

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Cariad, why did you just vote for a no lynch?

 

[Feloreena]

Cariad vote No Lynch after the days of discussion... really?

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*votes

 

[Lauren]

No lynch should be banned, cariad that's the worst thing you could do really, your name has been a topic of discussion yet you couldn't be bothered to attempt to find someone worth lynching. Now, that seems lazy thus scummy in my eyes. Pull your finger out, this is what got you killed last game and you were a role of use. Don't have the time, simple don't play.

 

[KarlaKGB]

alrite guys

i know there are still a few hours to go, but its looking like we wont be able to decide on a lynch. if theres an hour to go and it still looks to be the case, we should just lynch ryan. not an optimal solution, but better than a no lynch happening. lynch him so he might just learn to stop instaclaiming and start playing. its pretty much impossible to determine his alignment because he doesnt post and he placeholder selfvotes.

 

[EpicGamer12]

KarlaKGB: Trundle, Gamora, Dolby, BellGreen
Ryan88: Ryan88
Alise: Ashtot
Campy: Feloreena
BellGreen: KarlaKGB
Dolby: C r y s t a l
Players that haven't voted: Alise, Cory, Axeler137, Campy, Rage, Lauren, Zigzag991, Cariad, Sumemr

These are the current votes, but from what I've seen so far we really need to figure out someone, and quick. I appreciate all the posts that are now out there for me to analyze.

Towards Feloreena's post: no, I did not bother going to look through Sataric's posts, and I now see what you mean with him baiting Karla (although I still believe there can never be an "instant" death as hosts can't always be on, so I'd assume it would just be at the end of whatever day/night we're on). There is likely another role. If the DT ends up finding them, please PM someone to post it for you.

Here's what I've gathered from the last few pages:
-Karla decided to only step up when he was called out, which is always very scummy in my eyes.
-Cariad, what makes you think that hiding behind "wanting to know others' opinions of me so I can improve" can work? That's something you can do at the end of the game, if your scum team hasn't been helping you already.
So essentially my main suspicions have really not given me any suitable reasons not to suspect them right now.

So I see some people feel like lynching Ryan at the moment, but is this a smart move? All I'm thinking is the risk vs. reward of what will happen if Karla is actually scum. It really disappoints me that so many people aren't posting anything at all. The quietest at the moment seem the scummiest to me, although I don't think any of you would support a lynch of someone who has not spoken up or will have time to speak up before voting.

I'm curious what Campy had claimed to Sataric? If I knew it would definitely be a lot easier to discern alignment knowing what Sataric did. I read town originally but I just don't know what role could influence my opinion of that.

 

[KarlaKGB]

Here's what I've gathered from the last few pages:
-Karla decided to only step up when he was called out, which is always very scummy in my eyes.

damned if i do, damned if i dont.

 

[Ashtot]

Cariad is another good lynch suggestion, but I still don't agree with lynching Karla.

If you inactives could post, that'd be great.

I think that the real decision right now is Ryan88 vs Cariad, neither of them are really that great of a lynch but we don't have much of a choice because we're out of time and out of information.

 

[Axeler137]

And, I still don't feel right about lynching Ryan. There is too much risk involved so early in the game, especially when alise just got herself killed (RIP btw). He hasn't posted much so there is little to base on, even though what he did post was completely off the wall. His lynch should be a last restot, with no lynch completely out of the question.

Axeler, do you even filter? I've only been answering questions? No no. I have brought my ideas and thought to the table on the topic of Ryan, I directly asked karla about a certain post and I also call people out, now your failure to notice these annoy me. How I react when people call me out is none of your damn business. I will react how I wish and I will do so accordingly. Now if there is and I quote karla now, a right way to react please tell me because id like to know. If Sataric actually had grounds to what he put then yes I would have reacted a lot differently but yet he hadnt as I had been in the game a day and a half less than everyone else. So please continue because I will answer your question unless that is wrong.

Oh I never said that you had to react a certain way when something happens, everyone does react. You have every right to do what you want, whenever you want, that is for sure. I am simply here to point things out as need be. And, I do feel that you do post only when addressed. If you feel otherwise, please show me.

 

[KarlaKGB]

And, I still don't feel right about lynching Ryan. There is too much risk involved so early in the game, especially when alise just got herself killed (RIP btw). He hasn't posted much so there is little to base on, even though what he did post was completely off the wall. His lynch should be a last restot, with no lynch completely out of the question.

WWWWWWWORROROROROOGGONNNG SO SO SO SO SO WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

u know what is risky? leaving players like him alive until late game. when ur at lylo with two players who u cant get any reads on. what do u do then?

 

[Campy]

Ashtot, I have some questions for you. You know, you've been very eager to defend people (Cory, Karla; can pull up quotes), but I feel you haven't really put any effort into listing your own suspicions. You only made a small list of possible lynch candidates at the beginning of day 1, but you admitted yourself that there wasn't a lot to go off yet and your reasoning was thus mostly based on their playstyles from previous games. You also didn't have a problem with lynching an inactive just because you wanted to prevent a no lynch.

Some other things I noticed:

Anyways I don't know the playstyles of some of the players on your list but I trust your judgement, so I suppose I agree with you.

This was a reply to Minties post, who named some people she wouldn't mind lynching. You "suppose" you agree with her because you "trust her judgment". That's a little too easy, don't you think? It seemed like you were okay with just lynching whoever (aside from the people you defended; scum mates maybe?).

I'm going to be voting Alise for the same reasons as Sataric stated. I don't feel Cory or Ryan88 is a good lynch.

Again, you're just agreeing here without really explaining your suspicion. That just seems.. a bit too easy to me. Anyone can just agree with someone's else's reasoning without explaining why and place their vote on them.

I'll also be voting for Ryan unless a better lynch candidate shows up. I think the Karla lynch is completely baseless.

Again, why?


@Feloreena: Regarding Dolby, he actually seems a lot more vocal to me than he is when he's scum, so I'm leaning towards him being town. As for him "defending" me, to me it actually looked more like he just really didn't agree with Karla's reasoning for voting for me while also making a case on Karla at the same time. I don't think it was really about defending me (though I do find it sweet if that was the case!).

@Axeler: I've watched a lot of games from the sidelines, but I've never asked to be in the Obs chat. So that's how I know the basics.

 

[Lauren]

And, I still don't feel right about lynching Ryan. There is too much risk involved so early in the game, especially when alise just got herself killed (RIP btw). He hasn't posted much so there is little to base on, even though what he did post was completely off the wall. His lynch should be a last restot, with no lynch completely out of the question.



Oh I never said that you had to react a certain way when something happens, everyone does react. You have every right to do what you want, whenever you want, that is for sure. I am simply here to point things out as need be. And, I do feel that you do post only when addressed. If you feel otherwise, please show me.

why the balls should i show you? I have literally been active all day long? contributing my thoughts, ideas and asking questions. So please learn to filter and read correctly you moron. This is a clear disregard of my activity, absolutely disgusting in my eyes. I do apologise i work during the day yet I can still contribute to active discussion so when you're going to say "you only post when addressed" before you say this, get your facts in check. Ok? I have posted and contributed more than most in the short time ive been playing.

 

[Campy]

Oops, effed up the bold part at the end. Sorry!

 

[Cory]

[16:40:15] 6<Cory6> oh we are lynching ryan
[16:40:21] 6<Cory6> i will always do that lynch
[16:40:23] 6<Lauren6> string him up
[16:40:26] 6<Lauren6> fkin scum bag

preach it lauren

 

[Lauren]

Also Axeler, your plain disregard to my activity screams lazy scum bag, just saying.

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I cant play in these conditions PPPP

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plz respond axeler, i crave your attention.

 

[Cory]

Also Axeler, your plain disregard to my activity screams lazy scum bag, just saying.

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I cant play in these conditions PPPP

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plz respond axeler, i crave your attention.

lauren he isn't viewing atm calm down

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And, I still don't feel right about lynching Ryan. There is too much risk involved so early in the game, especially when alise just got herself killed (RIP btw). He hasn't posted much so there is little to base on, even though what he did post was completely off the wall. His lynch should be a last restot, with no lynch completely out of the question.



Oh I never said that you had to react a certain way when something happens, everyone does react. You have every right to do what you want, whenever you want, that is for sure. I am simply here to point things out as need be. And, I do feel that you do post only when addressed. If you feel otherwise, please show me.

no RIP to alise she was weak.

 

[Lauren]

well he should be bloody well viewing.