Mafia TBT Mini Mafia XVII - Kissing to be Clever [Game Over/Town Win]

[Cory]

Who shot Chipped-Teacup then?

WAIT
godfather could count as 1kp
and all other mafia could count as .5kp
some hosts do this

 

[Superpenguin]

I don't think a mafia JoAT/Vig is out of the question, especially since kills are not factional. I don't understand what Tina meant by that.

Doesn't not factional just mean unused KP doesn't carry over.

 

[Cory]

I don't think a mafia JoAT/Vig is out of the question, especially since kills are not factional. I don't understand what Tina meant by that. Is it possible kills are rather tied to mafia roles instead of numbers? Ex the last two members maybe control the killing power. Also even if theres KP in this game, with trundle and runeraider added on that would make town a little unbalanced. A mafia JoAT is not out of the question.

this is also a possibility

 

[radical6]

Doesn't not factional just mean unused KP doesn't carry over.

What?

 

[Cory]

What?

only someone that is scum would know what factional meant

 

[Forek]

lel nick is digging himself a hole almost as fast as pillow bunny

 

[radical6]

Since when has unused mafia KP EVER carried over? What????? Factional simply means the kills belong to the mafia?? Like, it will always be there as long as the faction exists. If kills are no longer factional, it's possible one mafia member may in example be able to shoot everyone each night. I don't understand.

 

[Cory]

Since when has unused mafia KP EVER carried over? What????? Factional simply means the kills belong to the mafia?? Like, it will always be there as long as the faction exists. If kills are no longer factional, it's possible one mafia member may in example be able to shoot everyone each night. I don't understand.

there could be like a hitman role

 

[Superpenguin]

I hear talk about mafia potentially having the ability to kill three people on N1 had Tom not been lynched and then continue to be able to kill 3 people each night as long as they all remained alive along with the two vigs and now there's hitman discussion yet you all draw the line at there being six blues?

Can we please talk some sense now?

 

[radical6]

I hear talk about mafia potentially having the ability to kill three people on N1 had Tom not been lynched and then continue to be able to kill 3 people each night as long as they all remained alive along with the two vigs and now there's hitman discussion yet you all draw the line at there being six blues?

Can we please talk some sense now?

How would mafia be able to kill 3 people, if we believe that perhaps only 2 roles within the mafia could actually kill??? Framers and roleblockers can't actually kill without a factional kill?????

It's like... very rare that mafia DON'T have factional kills. Very rare. In most cases, the games where they don't have kills are always nightless.

 

[Superpenguin]

How would mafia be able to kill 3 people, if we believe that perhaps only 2 roles within the mafia could actually kill??? Framers and roleblockers can't actually kill without a factional kill?????

It's like... very rare that mafia DON'T have factional kills. Very rare. In most cases, the games where they don't have kills are always nightless.

Cory's logic of godfather = 1kp, everyone else =0.5 kp means 2.5kp the first night meaning three kills.

 

[Forek]

How would mafia be able to kill 3 people, if we believe that perhaps only 2 roles within the mafia could actually kill??? Framers and roleblockers can't actually kill without a factional kill?????

It's like... very rare that mafia DON'T have factional kills. Very rare. In most cases, the games where they don't have kills are always nightless.

I believe KP goes through the whole mafia team. Since tom lynched day1 there was only 2 KP on night 1 and with PB lynched day 2 theres only about 1 KP left in the mafia team. Probably the godfather and possibly a goon/something else.

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Cory's logic of godfather = 1kp, everyone else =0.5 kp means 2.5kp the first night meaning three kills.

is everybody forgetting that tom got lynched day 1?

 

[Superpenguin]

is everybody forgetting that tom got lynched day 1?

Are you forgetting to read posts? I literally said in my post "Had Tom not been lynched..." they would've had 3KP. And if we missed mafia again after that, they would've had 3KP again and would've won the game at that point. All this thought Tina had to put in when planning the game knowing if she distributed mafia kills like this, it could've meant an early end to her game.

 

[radical6]

I'm guessing LaBelle is either catching up/writing, but what are your thoughts?

 

[Forek]

o I didn't see that sorry i thought you said when tom was lynched

 

[LaBelleFleur]

I'm guessing LaBelle is either catching up/writing, but what are your thoughts?

Writing a post right now. Suspicious of Ashtot right now, but still trying to gather my thoughts.
While I write, question: Why is everyone so quick to believe Cory is telling the truth?

 

[radical6]

Writing a post right now. Suspicious of Ashtot right now, but still trying to gather my thoughts.
While I write, question: Why is everyone so quick to believe Cory is telling the truth?

Probably because there's no other counterclaims atm, and having a miller and a framer with no cop seems silly.

 

[LaBelleFleur]

Trundle:
Nothing new to say here.

LaBelleFleur:
I am Jellybean the Jaded Musician.

Dad:
Oh Dad, what?s going on? You started off with strong reads, but your last ?big? post felt really weak. I want to believe you?re town, because in the beginning your posts were very well thought-out and very pro-town, but like Ashtot, your posts are becoming less and less helpful.

Cariad:
Cory read you as town, but as others have said, you could be godfather, and you didn?t post all of Night 2 after voting no lynch.
Please, let us know your thoughts.

Superpenguin:
Not sure how I feel about you. The vigilante shot lines up, and since then you?ve been a lot more active, but you?re still not really contributing a whole lot in my eyes.

Karen:
Also not sure how I feel about you. I was suspicious of you and Superpenguin before Chipped-Teacup & Hika died. Then the whole ?Oops, switched my shot from chees4mees to Hika? thing is weird - why would someone overlap a shot? The mafia wouldn?t bother to overlap (if chees4mees is town, they?ll obviously choose another target so more town will die, if they?re mafia, they?re not going to shoot their own teammate). Superpenguin wasn?t about to overlap with you. The only other situation would be a third-party, which seems pretty unlikely considering there?s no third party in the minigame scores.

Maybe I?m misunderstanding the meaning of overlapping a shot - if I am, someone please correct me. The fact that you?ve been MIA since is also concerning, but since you?re in Australia I?m not going to take a lot of stock in that.

Forek:
My opinion hasn?t changed since the last time I posted about you.

chees4mees:
If we?re going to believe Cory, you are town, which lines up with my earlier read on you.

Ashtot:
I wasn?t suspicious of you in the beginning, but I?m growing more and more suspicious as your posts become less and less helpful.
I went back through earlier posts, since you seemed town-sided to me early in the game, and this stuck out:

pillow bunny

A couple cases and many comments have been brought up at pillow bunny, but there isn't really much of an argument other than "pillow made a case on endless and endless died", which doesn't make any sense because again, Tom was Mafia, Tom is a strong player, Tom would not tell pillow to make a case on Endless and then kill him immediately after, unless it's some kind of reverse psychology thing (which people have mentioned earlier), but knowing Tom's playstyle as Mafia, it doesn't seem like something that he would risk. I'm also wary because of people bandwagoning on pillow earlier today, there was plenty of time left and the case on pillow wasn't strong at all, which means Mafia could have easily hidden along in that vote.

I'll be voting for Karen, but I think that pillow bunny is another option. If someone comes up with better evidence towards pillow bunny I would definitely consider it.

I didn?t think much of it at the time, but your whole case on pillow bunny is more of pointing the finger at the people who voted for pillow bunny and discrediting their case. You then go on to say you?d consider voting for pillow bunny. Feels more like you?re covering your butt so that if/when pillow bunny flipped red, you could go back and say ?see, I was willing to vote for them too!?

Cory:
Everyone active right now is really quick to believe Cory is the detective, and it does make sense based on what others have said about the roles. We?ll see if any CCs pop up.

justice:
I read you as town in the beginning, despite your defence of Tom, because you?ve made a fair amount of good, pro-town posts. But now I?m not so sure, since you seem to have it out for me.

 

[radical6]

i kind of want cariad dead because shes such a pain in the ass to read but shes better off to be left for a vig, if karen has another shot.

IMO Karen is more believable than Nick when it comes to the vigs. I guess I'm more suspicious of Nick since he claimed he was blocked N1, y'know.

Nick always lies, so I can see why Karen was afraid the shots would overlap. He lies a lot. I don't think the mafia would ever kill Hika though, unless they were bluehunting.

I will have to go and read thru Ashtot's posts later, but these are my maf team thoughts

Nick and Cariad/Chees
Dylan and Ashtot

I suppose it's possible Nick and Ash could be mafia together, but Ash has been on Nick's case the whole game so I'm unsure.

Also if you couldn't tell, I'm a townie. My name is Tommy, and I'm some poster boy or something. (inb4 = fake claim coz the names tommy i must be joking coz i hate tom lol!!!)

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im unsure on ash tho coz hes played 27 games and only once has he been mafia.. and the time he was he only got lynched bc he claimed he was an adult pony instead of a kid pony for the townie names so lmao

one major difference i see between maf/town style is that he actually types with grammar as maf and is much more serious. ash reminds me a lot from my last game where he was kinda just... meh and chill but some of his posts end up making no sense as usual

 

[Forek]

i wanna make a big post but I don't wanna look like im piggybacking[/b]

I genuinely believe nicks claim, but as justice said, he lies alot. I don't think the maf KP is still 2, seeing as 2 mafs died already. Even though they don't have killing powers, they still contribute to the general KP. But im placing my bets that dylan is maf, he is a strong player and could easily be faking his veteran claim and the timing was so wierd so yeah idk bout him but he could've bussed tom seeing as he was strongly hoping for toms lynch. Theres still a chance he could be actually a vet but im leaning more towards maf with him right now. His late behavior seems to be a little strange but anyone would try to save themselves since half their team is dead, right?

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EBWOP: wrong bb code it should look like this: i wanna make a big post but I don't wanna look like im piggybacking