tbt needs to create an established system

[That Zephyr Guy]

Ty for reading all of this Oblivia, you the best

 

[PeeBraiin]

Hi guys.

First, I want to say that there are some very valid points being brought up by some of you, and I do think that there are some topics being touched upon here that warrant further discussion within the staff. I understand that it can be frustrating when it seems as though things are being handled in a way that's inconsistent, and I will say that we do try to make larger decisions in a way that's consistent and sensible, but there are times when it's difficult to get a full consensus from everyone and whomever is online at the time just acts on something, especially when it seems like a small and/or routine thing that shouldn't warrant a discussion. I do see how this might seem confusing when you're on the outside looking in and something is done that doesn't seem to make sense, but none of us are perfect and we all try to do the best we can.



I'm sorry you feel this way and while I don't believe any of the staff intentionally practices favoritism, it's particularly sucky for me to read since I honestly didn't have any friends here on TBT prior to joining the staff (yay reclusion!) Although I have made a couple of friends since, I can say that I would have absolutely no qualms with doling out punishment to any of them exactly as I would to anyone else who broke the rules.

As far as everything else goes, all I can say is that it's only natural that we as moderators are going to occasionally make decisions that other people don't agree with, just as there are disputes between members over not seeing eye to eye. I don't see anything wrong with discussing these things so long as the discussion remains respectful and constructive and isn't an attempt to single out one specific person and make them feel bad. I also want to say that my inbox is always open if someone desires clarification on anything I've done, or even to drop a suggestion on how to improve the way we do things so long as it's a valid concern and not just "u mods suk" or something of the like.

Thanks so much for replying and reading through all of this. Please continue to read some of the idead thrown out on this thread for some possible reconsiderations

 

[scotch]

This is an Animal Crossing forum. Chill.

yea, but there's a lot of issues with it.

 

[tae]

Hi guys.

First, I want to say that there are some very valid points being brought up by some of you, and I do think that there are some topics being touched upon here that warrant further discussion within the staff. I understand that it can be frustrating when it seems as though things are being handled in a way that's inconsistent, and I will say that we do try to make larger decisions in a way that's consistent and sensible, but there are times when it's difficult to get a full consensus from everyone and whomever is online at the time just acts on something, especially when it seems like a small and/or routine thing that shouldn't warrant a discussion. I do see how this might seem confusing when you're on the outside looking in and something is done that doesn't seem to make sense, but none of us are perfect and we all try to do the best we can.



I'm sorry you feel this way and while I don't believe any of the staff intentionally practices favoritism, it's particularly sucky for me to read since I honestly didn't have any friends here on TBT prior to joining the staff (yay reclusion!) Although I have made a couple of friends since, I can say that I would have absolutely no qualms with doling out punishment to any of them exactly as I would to anyone else who broke the rules.

As far as everything else goes, all I can say is that it's only natural that we as moderators are going to occasionally make decisions that other people don't agree with, just as there are disputes between members over not seeing eye to eye. I don't see anything wrong with discussing these things so long as the discussion remains respectful and constructive and isn't an attempt to single out one specific person and make them feel bad. I also want to say that my inbox is always open if someone desires clarification on anything I've done, or even to drop a suggestion on how to improve the way we do things so long as it's a valid concern and not just "u mods suk" or something of the like.

i really wish more mods handled things the way that you do, oblivia. you've always been consistent and i've never seen you close a thread without explaining why you did it. consistency is what tbt needs and hopefully this thread can help bring the important issues to light.

 

[scotch]

i really wish more mods handled things the way that you do, oblivia. you've always been consistent and i've never seen you close a thread without explaining why you did it. consistency is what tbt needs and hopefully this thread can help bring the important issues to light.

yea, that's why oblivia is the bset.

 

[oath2order]

yes just what we need people like me who think they're higher than everyone else

This is an Animal Crossing forum. Chill.

nobody here knows how to chill.

No.

This is ridiculous. This is a forum for people to chat with Animal Crossing players and have fun. It isn't some kind of government body or posh organisation. Don't treat it like one. We're all here to have fun. If you're not having fun, nobody wants you here. Bye!

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

It's the worst when a thread's locked for (what looks like) no reason and there isn't a post explaining why the thread was locked. Sure drama and flame wars are easy to see but sometimes it seems like literally nothing happened, and whatever it is isn't going to stop if people don't know what locked the thread in the first place.

Well you have a good point here.

I love it when threads go a bit crazy like this.

ohohohohoh this is nothing oh boy let's see here

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?138325-HELP-ME-RAISE-ANARCHY!!!

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?138337-HELP-ME-RAISE-ANARCHY!!!-PART-2

honestly those two are what i consider the "best of" for crazy threads that I've seen holy hell talk about a **** show

when i got my ban recently i tried to contact mods bc it was actually really unfair and i dont think i ever got a reply :/

you used this right: http://www.belltreeforums.com/sendmessage.php

TBT for IGB exchange has always been a thing; buying/selling with TBT in Re-Tail and buying/selling with IGB in TBT Marketplace used to apparently not be allowed (yet it was??)

I know this won't happen, but the general guides/FAQs just need a massive update, and maybe a link to them automatically PM'd to every new user. That way the rules are clear and concise and we don't have to even discuss this.

It wasn't strictly enforced

95% chance when I come back this thread will have been locked.

#lowpostquality

not likely except now that I'm posting it will be

I've contaced mods about warning / bans / etc and I've never received a reply...

http://www.belltreeforums.com/sendmessage.php try that

Although I have made a couple of friends since, I can say that I would have absolutely no qualms with doling out punishment to any of them exactly as I would to anyone else who broke the rules.

i know we're acquaintences but are you the one who gave me the infraction then reversed it to a warning because it was just the first post quality issue in months

Can we all go back to playing video games

no

mods should really ask us before they lock threads. if were unhappy, well tell them. if theres a flame war, ban those users from the thread, but dont ruin it for everyone else

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH **** SON THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE READ ALL DAY OH MY GOD

yea, but there's a lot of issues with it.

like you tbh it's a joke please don't report

 

[scotch]

yes just what we need people like me who think they're higher than everyone else



nobody here knows how to chill.



I knew there was a reason I liked you.



Well you have a good point here.



ohohohohoh this is nothing oh boy let's see here

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?138325-HELP-ME-RAISE-ANARCHY!!!

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?138337-HELP-ME-RAISE-ANARCHY!!!-PART-2

honestly those two are what i consider the "best of" for crazy threads that I've seen holy hell talk about a **** show



you used this right: http://www.belltreeforums.com/sendmessage.php



It wasn't strictly enforced



not likely except now that I'm posting it will be



http://www.belltreeforums.com/sendmessage.php try that



i know we're acquaintences but are you the one who gave me the infraction then reversed it to a warning because it was just the first post quality issue in months



no



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH **** SON THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE READ ALL DAY OH MY GOD



like you tbh it's a joke please don't report

I don't care

 

[Bowie]

yea, but there's a lot of issues with it.

Nobody should be having issues with an Animal Crossing forum. How much is going on in your life to make you upset over something that happens on an Animal Crossing forum? It doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[seliph]

Nobody should be having issues with an Animal Crossing forum. How much is going on in your life to make you upset over something that happens on an Animal Crossing forum? It doesn't make any sense to me.

You seem upset.

 

[Celestefey]

@ oath2order - why are you always so condescending towards everyone when people are just trying to have a discussion?

If people have a problem with the forums or perhaps the way it is run then they should have a right to talk about it without fearing of people stomping them down. To everyone who keeps telling others to chill - I'm pretty sure most people on here are chill and are aware that it is an Animal Crossing forum, and I am pretty sure most people enjoy using the forum to talk to people and visit other towns and make friends and trade and so on and so forth. But of course I am sure our forum experience could be more enjoyable and so it's only fair that we raise our own opinion to offer some constructive criticism. Yes ultimately the staff make the final decisions, but the users are what make this forum, so I think the staff ought to actually take into consideration some of the suggestions.

 

[seliph]

@ oath2order - why are you always so condescending towards everyone when people are just trying to have a discussion?

If people have a problem with the forums or perhaps the way it is run then they should have a right to talk about it without fearing of people stomping them down. To everyone who keeps telling others to chill - I'm pretty sure most people on here are chill and are aware that it is an Animal Crossing forum, and I am pretty sure most people enjoy using the forum to talk to people and visit other towns and make friends and trade and so on and so forth. But of course I am sure our forum experience could be more enjoyable and so it's only fair that we raise our own opinion to offer some constructive criticism. Yes ultimately the staff make the final decisions, but the users are what make this forum, so I think the staff ought to actually take into consideration some of the suggestions.

The unproblematic fav.

I love how this is one thread where everyone is actually like, peacefully agreeing and discussing things and high fiving and yet someone's still telling people to chill and "stop being upset".
Yeah, this is an Animal Crossing forum, but it's a forum, so it's still going to have problems that should be discussed.

 

[Hermione Granger]

Nobody should be having issues with an Animal Crossing forum. How much is going on in your life to make you upset over something that happens on an Animal Crossing forum? It doesn't make any sense to me.

What do you mean no issues? It is a community that to some is more than just some willy nilly child's game. When you're not in the Animal Crossing threads, you can see that there's a lot of bad qualities to this site that we, as members, are trying to have a discussion about. The fact that control and the way things are being handled here are a lot of times bad does affect someone experience wise.

 

[oath2order]

@ oath2order - why are you always so condescending towards everyone when people are just trying to have a discussion?

If people have a problem with the forums or perhaps the way it is run then they should have a right to talk about it without fearing of people stomping them down. To everyone who keeps telling others to chill - I'm pretty sure most people on here are chill and are aware that it is an Animal Crossing forum, and I am pretty sure most people enjoy using the forum to talk to people and visit other towns and make friends and trade and so on and so forth. But of course I am sure our forum experience could be more enjoyable and so it's only fair that we raise our own opinion to offer some constructive criticism. Yes ultimately the staff make the final decisions, but the users are what make this forum, so I think the staff ought to actually take into consideration some of the suggestions.

Because what tends to happen is people make their threads demanding whatever change they want, harass people who don't think there needs to be anything changed, and basically be the loud vocal minority of whiners.

The amusing bit here is that this has completely devolved from the original topic, which was the "something something bicameral 'i think i'm smart for using big words' legislative system"

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The unproblematic fav.

I love how this is one thread where everyone is actually like, peacefully agreeing and discussing things and high fiving

so basically circle-jerking.

You just described a circlejerk

which is what this thread was/is

 

[AnimalCrossingPerson]

It will if you keep up with these posts. No one is doing anything wrong lol
We are all just sharing our views of this site, not blatantly bashing anyone.

Oh my gosh, I guess the 5% chance of the thread not getting closed actually happened.


Also, thank you, Oblivia for the genuine response - you seem to be the most helpful around here. Justin seems okay from what I've seen (though I'm basing this off of like two screenshots) and Tina just seems trigger-happy closing threads, though for that reason may be really good to contact if there is a serious issue. And all the other moderators I've never even heard of. XD

 

[seliph]

Because what tends to happen is people make their threads demanding whatever change they want, harass people who don't think there needs to be anything changed, and basically be the loud vocal minority of whiners.

The amusing bit here is that this has completely devolved from the original topic, which was the "something something bicameral 'i think i'm smart for using big words' legislative system"

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so basically circle-jerking.

You just described a circlejerk

which is what this thread was/is

Not really 'cause we aren't saying exactly the same thing the whole time.
Are you just here to try to start something from nothing or like why are you commenting tbh.

Or are you "****posting" yet again

 

[AnimalCrossingPerson]

Irrelevant: Just realised my user title got changed to three dashes. WHO DID THAT?! Meh, I guess it did look a bit strange but I won't change it back since there's probably a reason for this, lol. Still stayed in the 15 character limit though.

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Was intending for that to post merge, to be honest. Doesn't deserve a post of its own.

 

[oath2order]

Oh my gosh, I guess the 5% chance of the thread not getting closed actually happened.


Also, thank you, Oblivia for the genuine response - you seem to be the most helpful around here. Justin seems okay from what I've seen (though I'm basing this off of like two screenshots) and Tina just seems trigger-happy closing threads, though for that reason may be really good to contact if there is a serious issue. And all the other moderators I've never even heard of. XD

lemme sum up the mods and admins

Jeremy - Pays for the site
Justin/Jubs - a noob
Jas0n - Wait he's still a mod?
LaBelleFleur - I think she does Animal Crossing boards mostly
Murray - I see him in IRC and Brewsters
Oblivia - her avatar kind of scares me so i'm not saying anything
Tina - please don't hurt me

Not really 'cause we aren't saying exactly the same thing the whole time.
Are you just here to try to start something from nothing or like why are you commenting tbh.

Or are you "****posting" yet again

Well that's what the OP was before it devolved into whining.

Irrelevant: Just realised my user title got changed to three dashes. WHO DID THAT?! Meh, I guess it did look a bit strange but I won't change it back since there's probably a reason for this, lol. Still stayed in the 15 character limit though.

what WAS it

 

[AnimalCrossingPerson]

Seriously though, it would have been nice to be notified about this. But hey, not worth making a thread about.

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lemme sum up the mods and admins

Jeremy - Pays for the site
Justin/Jubs - a noob
Jas0n - Wait he's still a mod?
LaBelleFleur - I think she does Animal Crossing boards mostly
Murray - I see him in IRC and Brewsters
Oblivia - her avatar kind of scares me so i'm not saying anything
Tina - please don't hurt me

Lol, cool! I wonder if Jeremy makes a profit or a loss on this site as it's very busy but it does have an ad banner or two. Maybe he should go crazy with those fancy pop-up ads. Anyway, thanks for the rough idea of who's who.

Irrelevant: Just realised my user title got changed to three dashes. WHO DID THAT?! Meh, I guess it did look a bit strange but I won't change it back since there's probably a reason for this, lol. Still stayed in the 15 character limit though.

what WAS it

I can't find the character on the web anymore, which is really annoying. It was a bit less than twice the length of "௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵" and drifted out of the sidebar into my posts. >

 

[AnimalCrossingPerson]

what WAS it

Found a screenshot of it!

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Bit tricky to see but it extends to the 'T'. Well, it was fairly long indeed and drove Red Cat crazy.

 

[seliph]

We're all just lingering on forums so meh. I really think this has gone off-topic now.

Pretty sure that was the point of the long ass reply post that contributed literally nothing but yeah.

****ing dammit Luca you beat me to it