Punchy ISO
Sigh
Punchy said:
Hi I?m awake
Antonio is slightly different than last game let me get on my laptop and make a case
Brian said:
tldr just avoiding making opinions with a whole lot of fluff and shading players of the previous game
He didn?t bother to actually pull up any evidence, obviously this doesn?t look great.
Poncho said:
What is your timezone and how active will you be? EST, active
Preferred pronouns and/or nicknames? him/he and Punchy/Poncho/Panchy/Pinchy/Lunchy/Penchy/Brian
Do you prefer being town or mafia? mafia bc I'm good at it
Guess the scum team: Antonio, Trundle, mog and Dolby
Who would you fearkill N1? Dolby, Ness, Dad (but he's not here), and maybe toads
Who can best read you/who can you read the best? I don't know if I'm actually currently read well by anyone, most of the players that claim to read me well haven't played a game with me in over a year
Probably insignificant but 3/4 of the people he mentioned as scumteam in his RQS are confirmed town. If he is scum an argument could be made that he was avoiding naming his partners. I wouldn?t put a lot of weight on this though
Penchy said:
This is 100% town mog, scum mog would be uncomfortable and seem out of it. Check CTSTP
Penchy said:
oh hi I'm here
I literally died after school
after rereading a bit mog is literally a townlock for me
mog is not AT ALL acting like scum mog that I remember from CTSTP
Penchy said:
mog defending me is definitely towny, mog defo wouldn't do that as scum.
her tone and posting style aren't really alignment indictative, but her content is.
as scum she is quite mild and avoids giving opinions and, like vanessa as scum last game, very little content could be remembered from her.
I?m conflicted about these mog posts. As Heyden brought up, the tone and the conviction is similar to his scum games, whereas in his recent town games he hasn?t used such strong language, or alignment-locked people with such little evidence. However I really don?t see the benefit for scum of townlocking someone this early, that?s just one less person they can sus or try to push a lynch on.
Lunchy said:
oh also the last time ness was scum he quit the game after going into a wallpost war with dolby. AtE, possibly.
Mention of Ness. Noting for if either of them flips scum.
Brian said:
ok bianca is defo off
she just sporatically posts as town kind of like early 2018 or so me.
in this game she's making larger posts with more content. meta says slightly suspicious
His first mention of Bianca, a few minutes after mine. He said different things about her than I did, but it could still be a ?oh look Vanessa pointed her out, I?m gonna jump on? kinda thing
Panchy said:
ATE
I'd be down for Bianca lynch if day ended now
This is two posts after the first one. He progressed into wanting to lynch her very quickly.
Punchy said:
OK
I'm done. I'm honestly tired of mafia and being constantly attacked for my "bad play" or "being punchy"
It's literally occuring in every game, I'm being personally attacked for my style of play because it's not wallpost after wallpost. I don't want to play a game where I'm being attacked for my play every single game. I've tried to supress my emotions about this but I just can't at this point.
This is bull****.
I?m not sussing him for the use of AtE itself since people are always very hard on him and his frustrations are very valid, but I just find it odd the timing that he posted it. From what I recall nobody had been talking about him at that time.
Poncho said:
Odd for reasons already mentioned. Not only does it line up with his scum meta to ask to be read, but why Jacob of all people? How did Jacbob the scum king respond?
Jacbob said:
Just read all of your posts. There isn't anything to analyze. All but 4 or 5 of your posts were using META, the other few were defending yourself or getting upset (which was understandable)
Theres are all quotes that rely on how someone has played in previous games. There's no other content to analyze
- - - Post Merge - - -
Punchy you read me
This is?.an odd reaction. Just because Punchy had been using meta to analyze others doesn?t mean he himself can?t be analyzed? Why was Jacob avoiding giving an opinion on him? Could they?.be teamed?
Punchy said:
hi I made townreads
next I'm going to read up on Jacob, Ness, Evan, Heyden, and Dolby bc I don't remember much of them because of my Bianca deathtunnel
Townreads:
Mog- Mog is shy and uncomfortable, and kind of rambly as scum, trying to avoid the topic. Her content is not memorable as scum. A comparison to the last point specifically is Vanessa and Dedenne as scum. They aren't the same person, but if you don't know what I'm talking about, then that comparison is accurate.
Vanessa- Our mindmelding on things is honestly pretty good. Her consideration of the town's opinion on the lynch candiate is definitely towny. Her tone is different from last game, where she was scum. This is defnitely a lean but nevertheless towny
Toads- I have really liked his few posts that he's made, and I believe that they come from a town mindset. I believe Toads is town atm, but that is subject to change.
Chele- According to her scum meta, she would make long wallposts over things not really relating to the topic just to make content, which she hasn't done. This is a very weak read, but still valid.
Still find it weird that he made a post focussing only on townleans. If he is scum, I would expect him to slip at least one team member in here which could point to Chele? Also interesting that he started using less absolute language here, AFTER he was scumread for it.
Punchy said:
yeah ok this is pointless
Dolby/Bianca/someone in my bandwagon/Ness mafia team
I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME IF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY POSTS ARE MARKED AS INVALID BECAUSE IT IS OLDER META BECAUSE THERE ISNT ANYTHING BETTER
This is dumb that genuine frustration for being called a bad player IN EVERY SINGLE GAME THAT I PLAY IS MARKED AS FAKE AND FORCED
Lynch me. Go ahead. I don't want to fight an argument of "every thing you've done is incorrect"
This post seems town to me and is pretty much what caused me to unvote him on D1.
Panchy said:
inactivity, going after an easy bandwagon.
This reason for sussing Dolby (a sus that came out of nowhere) is weak and not really backed up. Dolby had said he was inactive due to taking 18 credits or something crazy like that.
Lunchy said:
tldr sus reads bc they're accurate
Bianca because reasons already stated, and also avoiding getting on me for towncred after I die Bianca/Tae possible
Dolby for suddenly jumping on me after I got momentum
Ness because he was adding fuel to thr Trundle fire and kept it going by doing that
then someone else
Brian said:
ok the someone else is trundle for defending ness
Sussing Ness for adding fuel to the ?Trundle fire? and then sussing Trundle for defending Ness is not really a logical progression as far as I can see. I can?t make sense of it.
Penchy said:
HI PEOPLE
so if you don't think that I'm mafia and you want to save my slot vote Jacob, he's the highest wagon that's not me.
Telling people to vote someone else JUST to save his slot is fishy, even if its his partner. Any scum would probably bus when their goon partner is one of the highest lynch wagons, especially if they have a more valuable role. And of course there?s the thing how Jacob didn?t vote for Punchy.
Poncho said:
@Vanessa can you hammer me now
This sounds more like town. Uggggh
Punchy said:
@Vanessa if there is a tie between me and Jacob who are you hammering
Can def see this as ?which scum member would you hammer?? so scum can emergency swap votes or something if I said Punchy instead of Jacbob the goon
Penchy said:
What happened to scumlock Bianca???
Lunchy said:
Why do you keep switching between wanting to kill Jacob and wanting me to hammer you? Why do you keep switching between saying scum things and town things?
Brian said:
I want Bianca but I think Jacob is scum
You never even talked about Jacob until he became an option to save your butt
Panchy said:
lmao Evan doesn't resign like this as to- oh he did this last game don't shoot him
Why would he want to clear Evan, a possible person that could be lynched instead of him, as scum?
Poncho said:
@unravel Dolby encouraging vig to shoot at me is susp, ness tried to get off jacob last second and Bianca didn't get on me or Jacob, trying to frame us if she died
Dolby sus is still weird and OMGUS. Ness sus is interesting but at this point Ness has claimed hero so idk.
Penchy said:
Mmm
Just reread
Vig kill me, it is beneficial for town because it gives town more information. D2 please kill Bianca
Either of Ness or Dolby, probably ness can be swapped out for toads on my scum lists.
Would he encourage vig to shoot him as scum?
Lunchy said:
If/when I die don?t give toads towncred
When I die look into Dolby/Ness/Bianca
Doesn?t want toads to be cleared. Assuming toads is town and was framed by scum, they clearly want toads to be mislynched, so this could be a push towards that (even though Punchy would be flipping scum in this scenario)
Brian said:
@everyone but @dolby especially
make a readslist for a world where I'm town (you'll thank me later)
Idk encouraging people to make content seems more town than scum
Panchy said:
why are people avoiding reading me
read me so you get cred once I die
A strange thing to say
Penchy said:
anyone townreading could defo be scum trying to get towncred
Especially when followed by that, that?s kind of contradicting
Poncho said:
I've repeatedly said that people townreading me shouldn't get towncred once I flip
I also did this in CTSTP before I was lynched
I was susp of rune taking advantage of me to get toncred when I died
This is true though, hmm
Lunchy said:
Hi I?m awake now
Rune
Bianca and Ness and someone else on my lynch or toads is scum
Really pushing Bianca and Ness
Brian said:
toads (null-slight scum)
evan (null- slight scum, a little more than toads)
ness (scumlean- addingh fuel to the trundle fire)
Bianca (literally if she isn't mafia I'll eat my shoes
Hmm now he says Evan is more sus than toads despite defending Evan before. Inconsistent
Panchy said:
mog -HARD town
unravel - towny bc of jacob flip
Nulls:
Chele
Heyden
Rune
Tae
Dedenne
Vanessa
done
A lot of nulls
Punchy said:
Rune/Toads/Bianca is possible
Ness/Bianca/Chele is possible
Rune/Bianca/Chele is possible
Ness/Rune/Bianca is possible
Toads/Ness/Bianca is possible
Chele/Ness/Bianca is possible
Rune/Heyden/Bianca is possible
Ness/Heyden/Bianca is possible
Toads/Heyden/Bianca is possible
Chele/Heyden/Bianca is possible
Hmm, no mention of tae, though it could be because they posted nothing
Posting significantly dropped off around D2 tbh, idk if he gave up because scum or gave up because demotivated because everyone thinks he is scum
Penchy said:
ok
lynch toads
no reason to not susp mog
Very quick to jump on lynching toads
CONCLUSION:
This didn?t really make me any less confused lmao
Only the interaction with Jacob made me any more suspicious of him, but some things made me less suspicious too. My brain says he is scum but my gut says he is town as Rune said somewhere.
It also conflicts me how few teaming options there are with him.
But I will probably lynch him as I am guessing that he be the maj vote? Feel free to discuss if you see things in this ISO that I don?t.
