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I feel like I always bring up the Pokemon event all the time and I'm sure ppl are sick of me talking about it but it was nice just participating and everyone getting the same thing - no staff faves or anything, was stress free and fun and can't even argue that the collectibles would lose value if everyone got one since they're one of the most popular collectibles now

also, probably an unpopular opinion but I'm just too overwhelmed with all tbt events at the minute, I log on and there's 70 different threads and 50 pages of rules and deadlines every day (I know this isn't every event), it'd also just make the staff lives easier, I'm sure it's totally overwhelming hosting/planning so much

I guess what im trying to say is id like some simpler events lol (and I probably shouldn't have much of an opinion since I haven't participated in an event in ages so sorry everyone/staff)
 
My thoughts were pretty much encompassed in my post from the "What's your current opinion of the forums?" thread, so not much to add this time. But I've been reading through the thread anyhow.

i really can’t emphasize enough how the staff favorites/event winners have ruined my experience of tbt events. this october will be my tenth year on tbt - i’m prone to taking a random hiatus now and then, but i’ve participated in a ton of events in that time. i did not win a single staff favorite, EVER, until this past valentine’s day. it literally took me ten years to win one single time. no one, including me, is entitled to a win, but everyone should be entitled to a chance. when all the staff favs/contest winners are always the most beautiful, most professional looking art submitted, how is that an equal playing field? how can i compete with someone who’s been doing art/baking/whatever their entire life, or better yet does it as a career? there are members on this forum who have been here for less time than new horizons has even existed who have 5+ staff favorite prizes, but others who have been here as long as (or longer than) me who have zero. i don’t say this to shame anyone who wins a lot of events or who is talented in their craft - y’all do GORGEOUS work and i always love seeing it, i genuinely do, and you're not at fault for being talented. but the bottom line to me is that this isn’t an art forum, it’s an animal crossing forum. our events shouldn’t be based around art with a lil bit of animal crossing, it should be the other way around. there’s also a very odd thing i’ve noticed happen from time to time where the same person wins two different things in the same event, but instead of them only being allowed to win once, they’re allowed to win both but only get one prize. so now an entire spot that could’ve gone to someone else is taken up by someone who won’t even be winning a prize for it. why??? how does this make any sense? this whole issue is actually one of the reasons that i prefer the egg hunt over a lot of other events, because it’s centered entirely around the forum and doesn’t require any real skills other than brainpower.

the problem imo is less about the same specific people winning over and over again (though this is true) but more about the same style of art always overtaking every other entry, even the ones that are super creative and funny and unique but may not look visibly stunning. it was already a miserable feeling to see 3-4 art focused tasks in each event, knowing it’d be pointless for me to participate, but now after the “low effort” accusation during the valentine’s day event, i’m even more reluctant to participate ever again. the entry in question was visibly NOT low-effort and clearly had work put into it, so if they got accused of low-effort, does that mean every garbage thing i’ve created in the past decade was also written off as low-effort too?? is art only valuable if it’s conventionally attractive? this may sound dramatic or whatever, but things like this are very ostracizing, and many of us here already deal with feelings of isolation in real life. we don’t need it here, too. i know the staff members are all only human and i truly do empathize with you guys, but something needs to change regarding the way events are handled and the way these things are judged.
While I've sporadically won a few Staff Favorites over the years, as someone who isn't an artist or an amazing baker, it's usually never in those art events. I participate anyway, knowing I'm not going to win, just for the event currency to get whatever collectible(s) I'm interested in and because I find it a fun way to pass the time anyhow. I hold no ill will toward the talented folks who've honed their skills and do great work, but I do feel some kinship with those who might feel frustrated or defeated. I don't personally feel that way, but I get it. Some of us are effectively Little Leaguers going up against professional stars. Indeed, these amazing art pieces deserve their recognition and, at the same time, those of us who don't stack up aren't entitled to pity wins or anything. However, some people have suggested alternatives like separating things by skill level, though some other folks have also pointed out that that can be flawed. I do like Dunquixote's suggestion:
I again would like to suggest categories like: most funny, most improved, most innovative, etc. Would love it to apply to acnh designs too.
I can see if the Staff doesn't want to open it too broadly so that the awards become less meaningful, but I feel like this would be a good valve to turn to release some pressure.

The "low effort" incident was so disrespectful to so many people. The backpedaling with no intentions of apologizing or following up was really sad and disappointing. I really hope there will be a direct statement from Chris but I will not be surprised if there's not.
it sucks bc like,, the art thing shouldn’t be that deep—we’re on an animal crossing forum (which, ofc, is important for a lot of us). but the valentine’s party was made to be such an insulting ordeal. my feelings towards this website changed from positive to kinda blegh overnight; much to my dismay, TBT has continued to decline in esteem as time goes on without a meaningful apology to myself & other artists and as i continually see Chris around the forums one month later. it was really disheartening
This feels like it needs to be addressed sooner than later. When other members like Chere. and skarmoury shared work from similarly limited functionality art apps, it does feel arbitrary to target the 3DS due to its format and small size, and a not-insignificant number of people have expressed this sentiment. Not trying to pile on here, but it feels like something that might call for a reevaluation of criteria.

the only other thing i can think of re: collectibles is that there are far, far too many and that new ones are released way too frequently. i regularly see collectibles in people’s lineups that i didn’t know even existed. it’s not that i don’t like or want new collectibles, and having lots of variety is great, but it isn’t sustainable and we’re seeing that firsthand. at this point i think people would be more excited about old collectibles returning as event prizes than they would be about new stuff, but maybe that’s just me. i would lose my mind if this year’s fair was like a throwback theme to 2016, and all the event prizes were the same as back then - feathers, og glow wands, etc. that was my all time favorite fair by a mile and i really do think forum morale would skyrocket if we were all given the chance to get ahold of glow wands without going insane.
That's essentially what last year's Fair was, considering what was available as shown in the Prize Booth, so I don't know that they'd do it again anytime soon. Last year was more or less a celebration of TBT's 20th anniversary, thus why so many balloons were prominent across events like Farewell to New Leaf and the Fair, and also why it made sense to bring back things like the feathers. Additionally, as they alternate each year, since we had the Fair last year, this Summer will be featuring Camp TBT instead.

I'm of two minds on the matter. Each event tries to have a fresh feel and identity. I'm always interested in seeing what new collectibles are released every event and sometimes a new favorite comes along. At the same time, it's a bit of a pain to try to acquire older collectibles considering the economy and the 10 TBT per post cap. Perhaps it wouldn't hurt to meet in the middle and have some new collectibles with some older, returning collectibles from now on? Until/unless the eventual ability to reorder collectibles comes along, it would be a little helpful for lineup purposes to not be so constrained.

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- The hug emote discussion is pretty dead now but just throwing my two cents in while I'm passing through. Some people feeling uncomfortable with it is understandable, but I don't know that a flower would work as a suitable replacement. I post from a computer rather than a phone, so I don't know if mobile devices show the little text box if you hover over the reactions like it does on a computer...don't know how it would, either, given the touchscreen aspect. But regardless, the hug emote visually gets across what it's meant to convey, whereas something like a flower doesn't really give that immediate correlation, at least in my mind. I have no qualms with replacing it to be more accommodating, but it really hinges on what it's replaced by. You can always just keep hug and add flower, but realistically, people aren't by and large probably going to know who's uncomfortable with the hug unless they're reading this thread and the issue is still going to arise.

Maybe 🫶 would be a consideration? While at first seemingly redundant with the Love heart, this can convey support that doesn't involve physical contact for those who aren't comfortable with it. Did a quick look through the emotes and that's the only one that jumped out to me that gets the support idea across visually, but I could've missed something.


- Regarding the What Do You Look Like? thread and the issues brought up, as someone who was a teen in the 2000s, yeah, probably best to put some limits on that like an age limit. I don't know if it would be feasible for an auto-delete feature to be added to posts in that thread, seems more incumbent on the person posting to delete it when they so choose. I feel like nightglow's suggestion of closing off visibility of the Brewster's section might have an unintentional effect of cutting into new memberships if people think all we do here is talk about all Animal Crossing, all the time. Maybe it's some topic in Brewster's someone saw that got them to want to join, I dunno. It seems an overreaction to a problem that can be minimized. Now making that thread itself member's only somehow? If possible, a reasonable and worthy consideration.
 
also, probably an unpopular opinion but I'm just too overwhelmed with all tbt events at the minute, I log on and there's 70 different threads and 50 pages of rules and deadlines every day (I know this isn't every event), it'd also just make the staff lives easier, I'm sure it's totally overwhelming hosting/planning so much
Personally, 💯. One of the multiple reasons why I prefer rng events. They are just simpler for staff and members, random winners, collectibles still get in circulation, and people are unlikely to have hurt feelings when it ends.
However, I understand there are people who don't like rng.
And I do like the idea of not allowing the same person to win a rng event twice in a row even though it may be two separate events.
 
I agree with what Crash and Halloqueen about the events, specifically about the effort. For example, I have never one a staff favorite on an event. Granted I've only been here for a few years, but it does still hurt when you put lots of effort into something and it ends up not being accepted for "low quality work". (No hate of course, the staff's just doing their jobs, but it still hurts when you put so much effort into something and it doesn't get accepted.) So based on this, I do believe it would be great if we had multiple categories for staff favorites, like most funny, most unique, etc. That way, more people would have a chance to be in the spotlight. Of course, if this does get added I would like to suggest to limit each staff favorite category to one person, so that someone can't just win all of them and ruin the chances of someone else getting one. Or you could at least have what Dunquixote said where if one person does get two nominations, there could be an honorable mention for that prize as well. (Correct me if I'm wrong since I haven't actively participated in these events since last year, but I think I saw an event that had an honorable mention but I forgot which one)
 
Thanks for making this thread! I didn't post in the other one cause lots of other people had already summed up most of what I was thinking and that's already the case here too, but I did wanna echo the internet safety thing. I've been on this site since I was 16 and way back then I had an extremely bad experience with an older creep who was also an active member at the time. I'm not really sure what else can be done by the staff to help mitigate older men (or whoever) taking advantage of younger members, but given that this is a site used by people of all ages--including plenty of young people--I think it'd be helpful to see staff take on a more active role in encouraging safety. When my experience happened I didn't say anything about it to the mods in part because I didn't really know if there was anything they could do about it, which definitely isn't anyone's fault! But I think emphasizing ways to be safe and making it clear that action will be taken if a member is acting inappropriately like that even if it happens offsite would go a long way. I totally agree the "what do you look like" thread should be hidden to non-members if that's possible and only allowing people over 18, or even over 16 like mog/crash suggested, should be considered. It won't drive away all predators obviously but I feel like they're pretty small changes (if restricting the thread/auto-deleting posts after a period of time are possible to do) that could help a lot
 
Adding onto the WDYLL topic, I think the staff should also consider how long you’ve had an account for here on TBT and perhaps a certain amount of posts you make. I’m not sure if the process of making one has changed since I joined back in 2018, but it’s pretty quick to make one, easily circumventing the requirement of viewing the thread as a member if it would ever be implemented. Like others have already stated, young people gather here on TBT as well given the nature of Animal Crossing reaching out to audiences of all ages. Make it difficult for… Certain people with unsettling behaviour to get through in the first place. Create layers of hoops to the point it just deters them from going to the thread in the first place.

Now, I never posted in that thread before, but I just get really, really paranoid thinking the possible dangers of posting a picture of myself. There could be a chance that my life would be ruined just because someone went out of their way to doxx me based on a single selfie.
 
Okay it's Thoughts time

I also want to (re)echo peoples' sentiments about the effort thing. I feel I'm always walking on a thin line with staff so I'm going to avoid namedropping even though others have, but I agree that it has been incredibly disappointing to see the staff member involved being active elsewhere on the forum. Especially when they're constantly in WBY, (even making a very ironic vent post about someone at work not apologizing to them) it honestly feels doubly insulting that they're seeking comfort and sympathy so often after hurting the people they're supposed to be looking out for and not apologizing or even acknowledging the situation in the first place.

I'm not trying to tell staff how to run the forum, but I do want to directly address the rest of staff when I say this: The rest of you should really try to encourage this person to publicly address the situation and publicly apologize. I know every staff member is their own person with their own thoughts and values, but each of you individually represent the whole that is "TBT Staff" and when one person acts unfavourably, it affects the integrity of all of you as a team. It's similar to how it is being in a leadership role at a job - one person being irresponsible reflects on all of you. You've seen it here and in the previous thread, people aren't saying "My feelings about [Staff Member] have really declined" - it's "My feelings about TBT have really declined". By avoiding accountability they are dragging the rest of you down with them.

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I wanted to agree/add to one of Crash's points earlier but I was at work, so I'll do it here

I'm an artist myself and have won staff favourites before, and I completely agree about the lack of diversity in staff favourites winners. Years ago when I was winning more I was basically spending all my free time on whatever art event, and that really shouldn't be the expectation. Now I'm spending less time on my entries due to working a full-time job, having other responsibilities, and because it's just not healthy for me to dedicate that much time here. However, I'm still trying, just going more for creativity or humour rather than being super refined. Even when I feel my entries are unique or funny it kinda feels bad that they get outshone by the same aesthetic and same group of winners because I don't want to have to dedicate my whole brain and strain myself for a tiny png. It feels like staff favourites are often "most polished" or "most ~aesthetic~" and daring to try to make something different goes unnoticed unless you make something grandiose - which was especially evident in the effort thing. It's even worse when it's a "winner in multiple categories" situation, 'cause I have to wonder would I have gotten a spot if this person didn't win in 3 different events?
 
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