The Official Super Mario Galaxy 2 News Thread

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep:gyroiddance:

Because that's what they all say.

What?

I'm saying of course you're not going to admit to your fanboyism, they never do. It's part of the disease.

I've already admitted my fanboyism. But I'm not some ignorant fanboy who lets their fanboyism cloud their views. I call myself a fanboy with its original definition in mind; "an obsessive male fan". I'm a huge fan of Nintendo, so that makes me a fanboy. I'm not a fanboy in the sense that it's a "disease" that clouds my thoughts and makes me ignorant to everything that I'm not a fanboy of. >_> And although I do love Nintendo, I'm not incapable of admitting that they've made some bad choices before. But the great majority of their choices satisfy me greatly. I am not an ignorant fanboy. I am a passionate fanboy.

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

Some people might not be able to afford the games you know.

So? That doesn't justify thievery. By that logic, it's fine for anyone to just go to a store and steal whatever they want if they don't have the money for it. Um...WTF? No.

That's interesting that you have automatically graduated media pirates into grand larcenists in one giant logical leap. Perhaps you haven't considered that a line is drawn somewhere? Somewhere between getting access to something a media giants owns for personal use and, as you said "stealing whatever they want."

I suppose at this point you have to ask yourself what's more important to you:

Nintendo making money.
People enjoying Nintendo.

I doesn't matter if it's digital media or not, it's stealing either way. Video games take a lot of time and money to develop. They don't just appear out of thin air. Maybe if they did just magically appear, then getting them for free would be A-OK. But that's not the case, obviously.

 

[Mino]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

But it's not just one person. It's many people. Thousands, sometimes millions.

And, like I said, it's not just Nintendo's profits that get hurt. The overall sales of the game also suffer.

Mmm. Let's assume that ten thousand people know how to pirate an ISO and use it on the Wii. And I think that that's meeting you more than halfway. That amounts to $100,000 in lost profit, if we assume that my guess that of a 10 dollar profit on each disc is correct. We're also assuming that none of those people buy the game, either.

For the fiscal year ending on March 31st, 2010, Nintendo took in $2,400,000,000. That comes out to about a .004% loss, or four-thousandths of a percent. Ouch. I think Nintendo will keep loving you if you let this one slide without being a real ass about it.

Funny, you completely ignored the second part of that post. I said, it's not just Nintendo's profits that get hurt. The overall sales of the game also suffer. What could become a multimillion seller may not thanks to piracy. As I said before, New Super Mario Bros. Wii would have sold many more copies if it weren't for piracy. I know that Nintendo can still thrive with a little less profit, but that's not the key point. Also, piracy in some countries is so bad that they just completely stopped selling games there. For example, I think it was in Brazil, they don't even sell DS games anymore because so many people pirate games with an R4 instead of buying them. Piracy completely destroyed the video game market there.

I don't understand why you're trying to justify piracy. You wouldn't justify any other type of thievery, would you? Nothing good comes from piracy.

Hah, of course the sales are going to get hurt, that's just redundant to claim that both the profit and the sales will be hurt. But please, show me the proof that NSMBW's sales were greatly affected by piracy. You've made a completely meaningless statement by saying that it "would have sold many more copies if it weren't for piracy." What does "many" even mean? You make it seem like there's a whole cabal of evil Wii pirates out there conspiring to make Nintendo's sales look bad. I think you are vastly overstating the amount of piracy of Wii titles that is going on. Vastly.

And if you want to start talking about piracy in Latin America, first consider the fact that they likely do not have the wealth or the means to spend as much as you do on video games. So please reconsider, because it makes you look very preachy to bemoan the vileness of poor brown people.

 

[Mino]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep:gyroiddance:

What?

I'm saying of course you're not going to admit to your fanboyism, they never do. It's part of the disease.

I've already admitted my fanboyism. But I'm not some ignorant fanboy who lets their fanboyism cloud their views. I call myself a fanboy with its original definition in mind; "an obsessive male fan". I'm a huge fan of Nintendo, so that makes me a fanboy. I'm not a fanboy in the sense that it's a "disease" that clouds my thoughts and makes me ignorant to everything that I'm not a fanboy of. >_> And although I do love Nintendo, I'm not incapable of admitting that they've made some bad choices before. But the great majority of their choices satisfy me greatly. I am not an ignorant fanboy. I am a passionate fanboy.

No, you see, you say that, but then you go and do the exact opposite. Please stop restating claims you've already made. Re: your fanatical opposition to violent games (Nintendo doesn't have 'em!), your desire to say you hate those who deprive your beloved company of money, and your relative inexperience with the other consoles.

 

[Mino]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

So? That doesn't justify thievery. By that logic, it's fine for anyone to just go to a store and steal whatever they want if they don't have the money for it. Um...WTF? No.

That's interesting that you have automatically graduated media pirates into grand larcenists in one giant logical leap. Perhaps you haven't considered that a line is drawn somewhere? Somewhere between getting access to something a media giants owns for personal use and, as you said "stealing whatever they want."

I suppose at this point you have to ask yourself what's more important to you:

Nintendo making money.
People enjoying Nintendo.

I doesn't matter if it's digital media or not, it's stealing either way. Video games take a lot of time and money to develop. They don't just appear out of thin air. Maybe if they did just magically appear, then getting them for free would be A-OK. But that's not the case, obviously.

Thanks, but I am well aware of the development process. But I simply can't bring myself to give a *censored.2.0* if game publishers that make over a billion dollars don't get all the money they are owed. You want an example where that would be different and doesn't involve video games poofing into existence? If the game were made by an indie developer and self-published. Then it wouldn't be acceptable to pirate it.

 

[Princess]

I'm gunna download the iso tomorrow =D
it looks so amazing.

*censored.3.0* you.

Go out and buy the game like everyone else. Support the developers for making such an amazing game, dammit. >_>

No need to get snappy Tye.

That's your own opinion.
And he has his own.

 

[Cybertooth]

It's ultimately Nintendo's fault that the DS and Wii games get pirated so much. Those systems barely have any security on them, making them extremely easy to hack into.

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepmany people. Thousands, sometimes millions.

And, like I said, it's not just Nintendo's profits that get hurt. The overall sales of the game also suffer.

Mmm. Let's assume that ten thousand people know how to pirate an ISO and use it on the Wii. And I think that that's meeting you more than halfway. That amounts to $100,000 in lost profit, if we assume that my guess that of a 10 dollar profit on each disc is correct. We're also assuming that none of those people buy the game, either.

For the fiscal year ending on March 31st, 2010, Nintendo took in $2,400,000,000. That comes out to about a .004% loss, or four-thousandths of a percent. Ouch. I think Nintendo will keep loving you if you let this one slide without being a real ass about it.

Funny, you completely ignored the second part of that post. I said, it's not just Nintendo's profits that get hurt. The overall sales of the game also suffer. What could become a multimillion seller may not thanks to piracy. As I said before, New Super Mario Bros. Wii would have sold many more copies if it weren't for piracy. I know that Nintendo can still thrive with a little less profit, but that's not the key point. Also, piracy in some countries is so bad that they just completely stopped selling games there. For example, I think it was in Brazil, they don't even sell DS games anymore because so many people pirate games with an R4 instead of buying them. Piracy completely destroyed the video game market there.

I don't understand why you're trying to justify piracy. You wouldn't justify any other type of thievery, would you? Nothing good comes from piracy.

Hah, of course the sales are going to get hurt, that's just redundant to claim that both the profit and the sales will be hurt. But please, show me the proof that NSMBW's sales were greatly affected by piracy. You've made a completely meaningless statement by saying that it "would have sold many more copies if it weren't for piracy." What does "many" even mean? You make it seem like there's a whole cabal of evil Wii pirates out there conspiring to make Nintendo's sales look bad. I think you are vastly overstating the amount of piracy of Wii titles that is going on. Vastly.

And if you want to start talking about piracy in Latin America, first consider the fact that they likely do not have the wealth or the means to spend as much as you do on video games. So please reconsider, because it makes you look very preachy to bemoan the vileness of poor brown people.

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=109246

New Super Mario Bros. Wii has been pirated 1,150,000 times as of December (and likely much more by now). That's 1,150,000 copies that could have potentially been sold.

And not everyone is poor in Latin America. >_> If you can't afford games, then you can't afford games. That doesn't justify thievery.

 

[Tyeforce]

I'm gunna download the iso tomorrow =D
it looks so amazing.

*censored.3.0* you.

Go out and buy the game like everyone else. Support the developers for making such an amazing game, dammit. >_>

No need to get snappy Tye.

That's your own opinion.
And he has his own.

Yeah, and I respect other people's opinions, except when those opinions are downright wrong. Nothing good comes from piracy.

 

[Princess]

I'm gunna download the iso tomorrow =D
it looks so amazing.

*censored.3.0* you.

Go out and buy the game like everyone else. Support the developers for making such an amazing game, dammit. >_>

No need to get snappy Tye.

That's your own opinion.
And he has his own.

Yeah, and I respect other people's opinions, except when those opinions are downright wrong. Nothing good comes from piracy.

Ohohoho.
So this about opinions that are wrong?
You are sure one to talk. (un)

 

[Rawburt]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepmanyNintendo took in $2,400,000,000. That comes out to about a .004% loss, or four-thousandths of a percent. Ouch. I think Nintendo will keep loving you if you let this one slide without being a real ass about it.

Funny, you completely ignored the second part of that post. I said, it's not just Nintendo's profits that get hurt. The overall sales of the game also suffer. What could become a multimillion seller may not thanks to piracy. As I said before, New Super Mario Bros. Wii would have sold many more copies if it weren't for piracy. I know that Nintendo can still thrive with a little less profit, but that's not the key point. Also, piracy in some countries is so bad that they just completely stopped selling games there. For example, I think it was in Brazil, they don't even sell DS games anymore because so many people pirate games with an R4 instead of buying them. Piracy completely destroyed the video game market there.

I don't understand why you're trying to justify piracy. You wouldn't justify any other type of thievery, would you? Nothing good comes from piracy.

Hah, of course the sales are going to get hurt, that's just redundant to claim that both the profit and the sales will be hurt. But please, show me the proof that NSMBW's sales were greatly affected by piracy. You've made a completely meaningless statement by saying that it "would have sold many more copies if it weren't for piracy." What does "many" even mean? You make it seem like there's a whole cabal of evil Wii pirates out there conspiring to make Nintendo's sales look bad. I think you are vastly overstating the amount of piracy of Wii titles that is going on. Vastly.

And if you want to start talking about piracy in Latin America, first consider the fact that they likely do not have the wealth or the means to spend as much as you do on video games. So please reconsider, because it makes you look very preachy to bemoan the vileness of poor brown people.

http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=109246

New Super Mario Bros. Wii has been pirated 1,150,000 times as of December (and likely much more by now). That's 1,150,000 copies that could have potentially been sold.

And not everyone is poor in Latin America. >_> If you can't afford games, then you can't afford games. That doesn't justify thievery.

Dat self-righteousness.

 

[Micah]

I'm gunna download the iso tomorrow =D
it looks so amazing.

*censored.3.0* you.

Go out and buy the game like everyone else. Support the developers for making such an amazing game, dammit. >_>

No need to get snappy Tye.

That's your own opinion.
And he has his own.

Yeah, and I respect other people's opinions, except when those opinions are downright wrong. Nothing good comes from piracy.

The *censored.3.0* you comment was unneeded.

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep:gyroiddance:

I'm saying of course you're not going to admit to your fanboyism, they never do. It's part of the disease.

I've already admitted my fanboyism. But I'm not some ignorant fanboy who lets their fanboyism cloud their views. I call myself a fanboy with its original definition in mind; "an obsessive male fan". I'm a huge fan of Nintendo, so that makes me a fanboy. I'm not a fanboy in the sense that it's a "disease" that clouds my thoughts and makes me ignorant to everything that I'm not a fanboy of. >_> And although I do love Nintendo, I'm not incapable of admitting that they've made some bad choices before. But the great majority of their choices satisfy me greatly. I am not an ignorant fanboy. I am a passionate fanboy.

No, you see, you say that, but then you go and do the exact opposite. Please stop restating claims you've already made. Re: your fanatical opposition to violent games (Nintendo doesn't have 'em!), your desire to say you hate those who deprive your beloved company of money, and your relative inexperience with the other consoles.

You just can't see the truth, can you? What exactly makes you believe that I'm just an ignorant fanboy? I never bash other consoles or games on those consoles, and I don't claim that Nintendo is flawless. You bring up the violent video game issue again, but, as I've said before, that has nothing to do with this. And, yes, Nintendo does have some violent games. Not nearly as many as Sony and Microsoft do, but that's not the point. I don't play the violent games that are on Nintendo consoles, either. I just don't like them. I don't hate the entire genre for no apparent reason and wish it didn't exist though, as you seem to think I do. And I don't only hate it when people pirate Nintendo games. I hate piracy in general. And it's not the people I hate, it's their decision to pirate that I hate. One of my best friends uses an R4, and as much as I hate that, I certainly don't hate him. And don't tell me I don't have much experience with the other console. You have no idea how little or how much experience I have with them. While I obviously have much more experience with Nintendo consoles, I have more than enough experience with other consoles to know that they're just not for me.

 

[Rocketman]

^ I thought this was about Mario Galaxy.

 

[Cybertooth]

I'm gunna download the iso tomorrow =D
it looks so amazing.

*censored.3.0* you.

Go out and buy the game like everyone else. Support the developers for making such an amazing game, dammit. >_>

No need to get snappy Tye.

That's your own opinion.
And he has his own.

Yeah, and I respect other people's opinions, except when those opinions are downright wrong. Nothing good comes from piracy.

Getting free stuff. That's something good.

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

That's interesting that you have automatically graduated media pirates into grand larcenists in one giant logical leap. Perhaps you haven't considered that a line is drawn somewhere? Somewhere between getting access to something a media giants owns for personal use and, as you said "stealing whatever they want."

I suppose at this point you have to ask yourself what's more important to you:

Nintendo making money.
People enjoying Nintendo.

I doesn't matter if it's digital media or not, it's stealing either way. Video games take a lot of time and money to develop. They don't just appear out of thin air. Maybe if they did just magically appear, then getting them for free would be A-OK. But that's not the case, obviously.

Thanks, but I am well aware of the development process. But I simply can't bring myself to give a *censored.2.0* if game publishers that make over a billion dollars don't get all the money they are owed. You want an example where that would be different and doesn't involve video games poofing into existence? If the game were made by an indie developer and self-published. Then it wouldn't be acceptable to pirate it.

But either way, it's still stealing! It doesn't matter if you're stealing from the rich or stealing from the poor, it's still stealing. And if a company has a lot of money like Nintendo, then they earned that money, and deserve to keep earning it.

 

[Tyeforce]

^ I thought this was about Mario Galaxy.

It was, but Mino just has to turn everything into an argument.

 

[Rawburt]

^ I thought this was about Mario Galaxy.

It was, but Mino just has to turn everything into an argument.

Yeah, that's not really something you should use as a counter-point.

 

[SilentHopes]

Looks like Nintendo's last stand is going to be a big hit.

Why do you say "last stand"? >_>

Because Nintendo is starting to lose the market.

Ex: So many people have Wii's and Ds's that there's just not many people to buy their products. So, to make up for that, Sony and Microsoft are trying to lure in those people.

 

[Rocketman]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

I doesn't matter if it's digital media or not, it's stealing either way. Video games take a lot of time and money to develop. They don't just appear out of thin air. Maybe if they did just magically appear, then getting them for free would be A-OK. But that's not the case, obviously.

Thanks, but I am well aware of the development process. But I simply can't bring myself to give a *censored.2.0* if game publishers that make over a billion dollars don't get all the money they are owed. You want an example where that would be different and doesn't involve video games poofing into existence? If the game were made by an indie developer and self-published. Then it wouldn't be acceptable to pirate it.

But either way, it's still stealing! It doesn't matter if you're stealing from the rich or stealing from the poor, it's still stealing. And if a company has a lot of money like Nintendo, then they earned that money, and deserve to keep earning it.

Then I guess I'm in debt 150 dollars for all the songs I pirated.