Oh, we changed the topic. It's about piracy. That's allowed in an open forum, you see.Comatose said:Okay everyone. Please stop arguing.
Or at least argue about Super Mario Galaxy.
Oh, we changed the topic. It's about piracy. That's allowed in an open forum, you see.Comatose said:Okay everyone. Please stop arguing.
Or at least argue about Super Mario Galaxy.
And he could have not tried to cause trouble.Bacon Boy said:BULL *censored.2.0* ALERT!Tyeforce said:No, this thread would still be on topic if he would've have interfered with it. None of the discussion about piracy or any of this would have even come up.Jas0n said:Mino doesn't turn anything into an argument, that is you and you alone.Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
It's you that swore at someone for piracy, it's you that reacted to Mino's opinions, it's ALWAYS you, yet you try to blame other people.
No, you could have ignored him.
While I stealing isn't as big of a crime as rape and murder, it's still a crime nonetheless.Kaleb said:You're comparing downright crimes, such as the taking of someone's life and the raping of somebody, and the shedding of innocent blood, to the downloading of a game that no one will care about in 5 years anyway, and that will be worth dirt then.Tyeforce said:Don't you agree that stealing is wrong, too? I respect all opinions, unless of course they're ones that are virtually universally accepted as wrong, such as stealing, murder, rape, etc. Do you expect me to not have any problem at all with a murderer? Do you expect me to say "Oh, you kill people, but I can respect that!"?Pally said:Ohohoho.Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepNothing good comes from piracy.
So this about opinions that are wrong?
You are sure one to talk. (un)
I have no problem with that. You could start a separate topic though in case people still want to talk about Galaxy.Mino said:Oh, we changed the topic. It's about piracy. That's allowed in an open forum, you see.Comatose said:Okay everyone. Please stop arguing.
Or at least argue about Super Mario Galaxy.
That's because it was the top five pirated Wii games, not top 5 pirated games on any console. Read the title. >_>Cybertooth said:That list of pirated games that was posted a few pages ago was very funny. If you noticed, all but one of the games was a Nintendo game. Nintendo consoles have no security at all. They basically scream "pirate games pleeeeeeeease!"
I'm assuming that the time in your life that you couldn't avoid video games was... your childhood? When you relied on your parents for money? Well of course you couldn't afford them then. I remember anticipating my birthday for months beforehand. The difference here is that these people can't afford to buy the games because they are poor, not because they are children. Also, I'm not sure if you realize this, but the piracy in Latin America is not internet piracy. It's predominantly the sale of Chinese-manufactured counterfeit systems and games. Do you think these people necessarily know the difference? Not everyone frequents video game forums on the internet.Tyeforce said:Yes, the guy was fined. And even though that will make up for Nintendo's lost profit, it won't make up for the loss in sales. And, yes, maybe some people who downloaded it also bought they game, but the number of people who would have done that is most likely very, very low.Mino said:That's true, and that guy apparently paid 1.3 million for that. You also don't know that none of the downloaders actually bought the game.Tyeforce said:http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=109246Mino said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepmanyNintendo took in $2,400,000,000it's not just Nintendo's profits that get hurt
New Super Mario Bros. Wii has been pirated 1,150,000 times as of December (and likely much more by now). That's 1,150,000 copies that could have potentially been sold.
And not everyone is poor in Latin America. >_> If you can't afford games, then you can't afford games. That doesn't justify thievery.
Mmm, again, do you really want to go down the road of blaming poor people for their lot in life? What are you, a Republican? For someone who loves video games so much you certainly seem quite selfish with them. Why not embrace a more egalitarian view, or do you still hang on to the way video games were a status symbol, as when we were kids?
I don't really give a damn about any media piracy because the whole system is exploitative. Especially the music industry.
And I'm not blaming poor people. There was I time in my life where I couldn't afford video games, even though I loved them so much. But I didn't go and steal them, did I? No. I don't care how poor you are, stealing is wrong, no matter if it's digital or not. Besides, if someone is so poor that they can't afford video games, then they should probably be worried about more important things.
Nintendo doesn't make the emulators, pirates do. >_>Mino said:Yeah, I was wondering what was up with that. Do they play it on their computer or something then?Bacon Boy said:NIntendo consoles also have the most emulators.Cybertooth said:That list of pirated games that was posted a few pages ago was very funny. If you noticed, all but one of the games was a Nintendo game. Nintendo consoles have no security at all. They basically scream "pirate games pleeeeeeeease!"
Someone takes the game very seriously.Tyeforce said:*censored.3.0* you.Joe said:I'm gunna download the iso tomorrow =D
it looks so amazing.
Go out and buy the game like everyone else. Support the developers for making such an amazing game, dammit. >_>
I wasn't trying to cause trouble, I was laughing at the way you felt personally offended when someone didn't pay a multinational corporation with profits in the billions some of the money they were owed. That was in the hopes that you would recognize that it's futile to lament the fact that some people pirate games.Tyeforce said:And he could have not tried to cause trouble.Bacon Boy said:BULL *censored.2.0* ALERT!Tyeforce said:No, this thread would still be on topic if he would've have interfered with it. None of the discussion about piracy or any of this would have even come up.Jas0n said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
No, you could have ignored him.
Oh, yeah? No *censored.2.0*, huh?Tyeforce said:Nintendo doesn't make the emulators, pirates do. >_>Mino said:Yeah, I was wondering what was up with that. Do they play it on their computer or something then?Bacon Boy said:NIntendo consoles also have the most emulators.Cybertooth said:That list of pirated games that was posted a few pages ago was very funny. If you noticed, all but one of the games was a Nintendo game. Nintendo consoles have no security at all. They basically scream "pirate games pleeeeeeeease!"
Still, I know what it's like to not be able to buy video games whenever I want to. Unlike some people whose parent would buy them whatever they want, whenever they want, my mom was a single mom and couldn't afford to get me much, so I was out of luck when it came to video games. And, like I said, if people are too poor to afford video games, then they should be worrying about more important things.Mino said:I'm assuming that the time in your life that you couldn't avoid video games was... your childhood? When you relied on your parents for money? Well of course you couldn't afford them then. I remember anticipating my birthday for months beforehand. The difference here is that these people can't afford to buy the games because they are poor, not because they are children. Also, I'm not sure if you realize this, but the piracy in Latin America is not internet piracy. It's predominantly the sale of Chinese-manufactured counterfeit systems and games. Do you think these people necessarily know the difference? Not everyone frequents video game forums on the internet.Tyeforce said:Yes, the guy was fined. And even though that will make up for Nintendo's lost profit, it won't make up for the loss in sales. And, yes, maybe some people who downloaded it also bought they game, but the number of people who would have done that is most likely very, very low.Mino said:That's true, and that guy apparently paid 1.3 million for that. You also don't know that none of the downloaders actually bought the game.Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepmanyNintendo took in $2,400,000,000it's not just Nintendo's profits that get hurthttp://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=109246
New Super Mario Bros. Wii has been pirated 1,150,000 times as of December (and likely much more by now). That's 1,150,000 copies that could have potentially been sold.
And not everyone is poor in Latin America. >_> If you can't afford games, then you can't afford games. That doesn't justify thievery.
Mmm, again, do you really want to go down the road of blaming poor people for their lot in life? What are you, a Republican? For someone who loves video games so much you certainly seem quite selfish with them. Why not embrace a more egalitarian view, or do you still hang on to the way video games were a status symbol, as when we were kids?
I don't really give a damn about any media piracy because the whole system is exploitative. Especially the music industry.
And I'm not blaming poor people. There was I time in my life where I couldn't afford video games, even though I loved them so much. But I didn't go and steal them, did I? No. I don't care how poor you are, stealing is wrong, no matter if it's digital or not. Besides, if someone is so poor that they can't afford video games, then they should probably be worried about more important things.
You know what else used to be a crime? Homosexuality. Yet, you won't see me trying to use that analogy for saying that someday stealing will be legal.Tyeforce said:While I stealing isn't as big of a crime as rape and murder, it's still a crime nonetheless.Kaleb said:You're comparing downright crimes, such as the taking of someone's life and the raping of somebody, and the shedding of innocent blood, to the downloading of a game that no one will care about in 5 years anyway, and that will be worth dirt then.Tyeforce said:Don't you agree that stealing is wrong, too? I respect all opinions, unless of course they're ones that are virtually universally accepted as wrong, such as stealing, murder, rape, etc. Do you expect me to not have any problem at all with a murderer? Do you expect me to say "Oh, you kill people, but I can respect that!"?Pally said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepNothing
And I don't know why you say that no one will care about it in five years, especially considering that it's right up there with Ocarina of Time when it comes to greatness.
Oh hey, that's a real nice sob story, and one that was identical to my own.Tyeforce said:Still, I know what it's like to not be able to buy video games whenever I want to. Unlike some people whose parent would buy them whatever they want, whenever they want, my mom was a single mom and couldn't afford to get me much, so I was out of luck when it came to video games. And, like I said, if people are too poor to afford video games, then they should be worrying about more important things.Mino said:I'm assuming that the time in your life that you couldn't avoid video games was... your childhood? When you relied on your parents for money? Well of course you couldn't afford them then. I remember anticipating my birthday for months beforehand. The difference here is that these people can't afford to buy the games because they are poor, not because they are children. Also, I'm not sure if you realize this, but the piracy in Latin America is not internet piracy. It's predominantly the sale of Chinese-manufactured counterfeit systems and games. Do you think these people necessarily know the difference? Not everyone frequents video game forums on the internet.Tyeforce said:Yes, the guy was fined. And even though that will make up for Nintendo's lost profit, it won't make up for the loss in sales. And, yes, maybe some people who downloaded it also bought they game, but the number of people who would have done that is most likely very, very low.Mino said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepmanyNintendo took in $2,400,000,000it's not just Nintendo's profits that get hurthttp://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=109246
And I'm not blaming poor people. There was I time in my life where I couldn't afford video games, even though I loved them so much. But I didn't go and steal them, did I? No. I don't care how poor you are, stealing is wrong, no matter if it's digital or not. Besides, if someone is so poor that they can't afford video games, then they should probably be worried about more important things.
That doesn't change the fact that Nintendo games are easiest to pirate. SMG 2 had no security at all.Tyeforce said:That's because it was the top five pirated Wii games, not top 5 pirated games on any console. Read the title. >_>Cybertooth said:That list of pirated games that was posted a few pages ago was very funny. If you noticed, all but one of the games was a Nintendo game. Nintendo consoles have no security at all. They basically scream "pirate games pleeeeeeeease!"
Oh yeah, we talking about galaxy aren't we. I was more talking about those "normal" games like Luigi's Mansion, which you can get for 5 dollars or less I'm sure, 1 on ebay probably.Tyeforce said:While I stealing isn't as big of a crime as rape and murder, it's still a crime nonetheless.Kaleb said:You're comparing downright crimes, such as the taking of someone's life and the raping of somebody, and the shedding of innocent blood, to the downloading of a game that no one will care about in 5 years anyway, and that will be worth dirt then.Tyeforce said:Don't you agree that stealing is wrong, too? I respect all opinions, unless of course they're ones that are virtually universally accepted as wrong, such as stealing, murder, rape, etc. Do you expect me to not have any problem at all with a murderer? Do you expect me to say "Oh, you kill people, but I can respect that!"?Pally said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepNothing
And I don't know why you say that no one will care about it in five years, especially considering that it's right up there with Ocarina of Time when it comes to greatness.
That's completely different from stealing, though, and don't act like it isn't. Homosexuality is completely natural. You're born gay, it's not your choice. And even if it was, no bad comes from it. Stealing, on the other hand, is a choice, and a bad one at that. You're not born a thief. And no good comes from stealing.Mino said:You know what else used to be a crime? Homosexuality. Yet, you won't see me trying to use that analogy for saying that someday stealing will be legal.Tyeforce said:While I stealing isn't as big of a crime as rape and murder, it's still a crime nonetheless.Kaleb said:You're comparing downright crimes, such as the taking of someone's life and the raping of somebody, and the shedding of innocent blood, to the downloading of a game that no one will care about in 5 years anyway, and that will be worth dirt then.Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepNothing
And I don't know why you say that no one will care about it in five years, especially considering that it's right up there with Ocarina of Time when it comes to greatness.
Some people are born kleptomaniacs. =oTyeforce said:That's completely different from stealing, though, and don't act like it isn't. Homosexuality is completely natural. You're born gay, it's not your choice. And even if it was, no bad comes from it. Stealing, on the other hand, is a choice, and a bad one at that. You're not born a thief. And no good comes from stealing.Mino said:You know what else used to be a crime? Homosexuality. Yet, you won't see me trying to use that analogy for saying that someday stealing will be legal.Tyeforce said:While I stealing isn't as big of a crime as rape and murder, it's still a crime nonetheless.Kaleb said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepNothing
And I don't know why you say that no one will care about it in five years, especially considering that it's right up there with Ocarina of Time when it comes to greatness.
Now, that's my last off topic post in this thread. Let's get back on topic.
*woosh*Tyeforce said:That's completely different from stealing, though, and don't act like it isn't. Homosexuality is completely natural. You're born gay, it's not your choice. And even if it was, no bad comes from it. Stealing, on the other hand, is a choice, and a bad one at that. You're not born a thief. And no good comes from stealing.Mino said:You know what else used to be a crime? Homosexuality. Yet, you won't see me trying to use that analogy for saying that someday stealing will be legal.Tyeforce said:While I stealing isn't as big of a crime as rape and murder, it's still a crime nonetheless.Kaleb said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepNothing
And I don't know why you say that no one will care about it in five years, especially considering that it's right up there with Ocarina of Time when it comes to greatness.
Now, that's my last off topic post in this thread. Let's get back on topic.
The game looks cool, and I can see why it got a ten (sorta), but I'm just not that all interested in platformers now. Back on topic.Tyeforce said:That's completely different from stealing, though, and don't act like it isn't. Homosexuality is completely natural. You're born gay, it's not your choice. And even if it was, no bad comes from it. Stealing, on the other hand, is a choice, and a bad one at that. You're not born a thief. And no good comes from stealing.Mino said:You know what else used to be a crime? Homosexuality. Yet, you won't see me trying to use that analogy for saying that someday stealing will be legal.Tyeforce said:While I stealing isn't as big of a crime as rape and murder, it's still a crime nonetheless.Kaleb said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepNothing
And I don't know why you say that no one will care about it in five years, especially considering that it's right up there with Ocarina of Time when it comes to greatness.
Now, that's my last off topic post in this thread. Let's get back on topic.