With regard to arsonist, it's just about always a third party role. I have seen a mafia arsonist, but the ratio is something stupid like 20:1. It's within our best interests to assume a third party arsonist.
@Kat I mean I did specifically state "unless there's good reason to do so", and in that case, I had very good reason to believe everyone in the chat was town. (And the best bit is there was even a contingency plan for the only person I didn't have a borderline lock town on, where the main instructions in the group were changed behind the scenes slightly in a way that would screw over that individual if he was a killer)
For reference, I meant Farobi when I said Zem. No idea why I said Zem, but the proceeding evidence demonstrates that it was Farobi I was talking about. Apologies on that part.
With regard to my reluctance to call out Farobi, I hate delving too deeply into the RQS, and if you read the paragraph above it's a pretty stolid representation of why. If you look at the result of that delve, that's another good reason why not. (Although anecdotal)
Like I really hate doing that sort of interrogation but the dude lied so w/e.
Now we get to the meat of the matter.
Dad's first post is god damn ****ing awful, and I'm going to tear it to s h r e d s.
So first of all, chat meta differs horrifically from forum meta, and this isn't like a secret either, this is a well known fact.
But that's not the point here, the point here is that this single post doesn't even resemble her chat mafia play either, or match up to even the description in this post.
At what point here does she "not finish her thought"?
Like honestly this is an embarrassing push, and I'm kinda concerned that Kat thought it was a fine point.
While it's common logic that there will be a minimum of 1 experienced player on the mafia team, that's information that's useful later, as the experienced player list is 6 or more people wide and therefore literally the same odds as narrowing from a normal pool of people. (Which is common sense, really)
But like, even ignoring the fact that trying to narrow between experienced players this early is dumb, like let's assume it isn't for a minute, then analyse this paragraph under that assumption.
He ignores glow because she hasn't provided much content yet - wasn't aware that was a towntell.
I'll give him credit for his townread on Dolby - I don't usually get strong early reads but I'd be floored if Dolby was either mafia or Arsonist. (I could go more in depth on that if it was required to me, but it was based on the way he made his play earlier.)
He states he doesn't like me because of my regular play, which he can't claim to not know because he literally referred to it within the post as my "usual play". (I could be misinterpreting this and he could be saying that he doesn't like the way I'm playing, but is effectively null on me. I don't believe that's the case, but I like to include all options when analysing.)
Now we get to the cream of the paragraph - he thinks my points are against Zendel. Do you know what this means? This means Dad didn't click on the links in my post. It means he skimmed my post, and is playing it off like he didn't. He's playing it off like he went in depth and looked into my logic.
Ironically, since he used this terminology incorrectly to refer to how I'm playing in this game, that sentence appears to be attempting to look like he's scumhunting rather than him actually scumhunting.
Oh yeah, and before I forget to address it, Farobi literally PMed someone "he was looking to trust". That's how newer players wind up telling their roles to mafia, so it was borderline the exact opposite of "information that was obvious to everyone". You might've forgotten Dad, but some of the people in this game haven't ever played a PM game before.
Since he thinks I'm after Zendel, he's putting his foot on the gas. This is kinda hilarious to watch.
Zendel always ****s his pants as town, no offense Zendel.
You might've forgotten this since you listed ness as an experienced player earlier in your post, but Ness isn't exactly an ace scumhunter. (No offense Ness)
He hasn't done anything that deviates from his regular play, and in fact I'm pleased with what he's done so far. (I agree with his team reads - although I think going after team reads this early is about as useful as attempting to PoE good players this early - not.)
I mean nothing wrong with this segment by itself, just ties together with his other segments. Included for completion.
Once again, nothing wrong with this line, but in the event that Dad is town, (which I don't believe to be the case) the reason he wouldn't be accurate is because his reads suck ass.
Damn didn't know Ness was guaranteed experienced but Kat was only maybe experienced.
Honestly this question is great. As a finishing note on his otherwise horrendous post, it's nice to know that there's at least 1 good question asked.
I'm voting Dad
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