Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
ok carry on..sorry for the interruption lol
My assessment arises from the fact that Dad created a double standard between Mog and Punchy. He both misrepresented the logic against Punchy (arising from the fact of his inconsistancy, not the fact that it apparently was a joke post. He presented the post as a serious post, retracted it, and now still susses me and Farobi). Moreover, his abject dismissal of the possibility of Glow being mafia, despite her not being her, raises red flags. He could have at least put her down as null in his reads.
When did I towntell glow? If I say nothing about them it's called a null, ****bird. Putting words in my mouth isn't going to help push your shallow case here.
Dad said:As for the experienced player that's on the mafia team (a theory I fully buy): it's Endless or Ness. Mostly because Dolby isn't setting off alarms and glow hasn't provided much content yet.
If I'm gonna be honest I really don't know how to reply, I literally brought up a point on Dedenne and reading over it myself I think it's perfectly fine??? so idk. I can see what you mean but regardless of how you bring up a point it's not in my control whether people pursue or not if that's what you mean
You ignored this part:~snip~
Any reply to this? Also you've only made brief passing statements of not liking Zendel as compared to your points on Abe and Mog. Can you elaborate on Zendel?Abe said:He states he doesn't like me because of my regular play, which he can't claim to not know because he literally referred to it within the post as my "usual play". (I could be misinterpreting this and he could be saying that he doesn't like the way I'm playing, but is effectively null on me. I don't believe that's the case, but I like to include all options when analysing.)
Already gave a difference between Punchy and mogyay in regards to how they're acting. Again, mogyay seemed more nervous about it in their joking than punchy did, that's my read.
actually ty for reminderAll of this text wall vomit is going to be a chore to analyze tomorrow morning...
Responding to this part specifically since it ticked me off
You say that IT IS Endless or Ness with 100% certainty. In doing so, you have entirely disregarded Glow and the possibility that she is scum. Did you explicitly say that she was town? No. But you did say that of the godfathers (which Glow was on the list) you stated that she could not be mafia through negating her from your scum list. And addressed her in the post as to why she is not on the list of who CAN be mafia
Only just saw this but um, yes and no, for the most part I didn't really expect them to I was just being dramatic cos I was panicking, took me a bit of time to realise arso won't light until most of town is doused or dead anyway. But yeah if doc did come up to me it would've been pretty awkward and probably a noob, but I'd rather them in my hands than anyone elseMind elaborating on Dolby?
btw, Jester is someone who's wincon is to get lynched during the day. Do you think one of those two is Jester?
@Heyden: Regarding asking for Doc - do you think you were justified in asking? Like taking the heat of the moment out, and looking at things now with a clear mind and such.
@glow Any thoughts on anyone else? Like I know you think I'm sus but beyond that there's been a lot of **** in thread so far than just me lol, like wb Dolby, Punchy, Dad, Zendel, ect.
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smh ninja
This is going to get annoying because it's only going to inflame the alignments that seem to be forcing themselves on me in this game but I agree with glow not liking Astro's sudden flip on me. Astro casually read me as town for my post but as soon as one of the biggest voices swoops in to make a case against me she suddenly turns around and is like 'oh woops I read Dad wrong, going to reread him now!'
It's going to come off as an omgus but I suspect astro as mafia. A lot more than Endless even. Despite him being back on his bull****.
You ignored this part:
Any reply to this? Also you've only made brief passing statements of not liking Zendel as compared to your points on Abe and Mog. Can you elaborate on Zendel?
Also fwiw your logic regarding Ness is flawed - you may think Ness as a godfather but the general community, the host included, doesn't lump him in that category, and you were basing your assumptions off of host bias.
How much mafia experience do you have?
A bit, it doesn't reflect my capability; although it varies from person to person so maybe it does?
I fail to see how Punchy retracting his sus against me and Farobi at the start of the game, after having seen a negative response, and then reviving those two susses is less cautious (ik, I'm mincing definitions here) then what Mogyay did saying that there's no way all me, you, endless, whoever else she put on that list
Can you rephrase this? You fail to see how...what? A lot of thoughts piled onto that intro phrase.
I do see him as experienced. What I do not see him as is a leader of any form. Godfathers are generally defined by their ability to lead and create cases, regardless of alignment. And while Ness's ability as a player is respected, I don't believe he's that kind of person, and I believe the general community agrees. I'll look to see if Toads makes any reference towards whom he believes is a GF in previous games later, too lazy rn tbh.Dad said:Astro/SarasKat not seeing that Ness is at least one of the more experienced players of the bunch is surprising considering she ran mystic messenger and a number of players in the game tipped their hats to Ness for his play there after he flipped.
Regarding Zendel, am I accurate in saying that you have a weak SR on him then if you SR him for his RQs but think his defense is justifiable? And you never answered the Abe question
@My reaction to Dad: To be totally honest I skimmed and it seemed good, I'll have to reread it. Entirely missed Abe/Zendel even being brought up in that.
ok I ****ed up lmao, reading dad's post it was bad. I know it sounds hollow but I don't really have any excuse for it aside from skimming from reading a bunch of pages at once so FOS that all you want for me being alright with Dad's post, it's justified (like even the mog/Ness part like good lord). Also I've really liked Abe's recent content and I dont think the points against him for arrogance is really a good scumtell - he's always arrogant (kek, last time I said I shouldn't call you talented abe you said it wouldn't hurt for me to compliment you ) so that's not really alignment indicative, and then I also liked his replies to my ****. Moving him into town read.
I will say that I know Dad respects Ness's scum play a lot because of Greek Cultists so I'm not entirely surprised about the GF logic there so I dont really sus him for thinking Ness is good, but I do think his logic is flawed in saying that Toads would assume the same.
Still want to read into Zendel/Panda, gonna do that next and also gonna read into Ness since he'd made markedly little impact on my mind. Slight TR on Zendel atm though, something about his interaction with me feels genuine.