The Unpopular Opinions thread

[Mayor Monday]

I find stand-up comedy to be a little weird. I don't understand it!

 

[Alienfish]

My simple deduction is this- if the *insert whatever here* attracts that kind of reaction/crowd/intent, how good can it really be? If those are the themes within it, there's no justification.

But that's my opinion. I understand what you mean.

I'd say I'd be the exception I guess, but then I'm aware to it as fiction and I don't get affected by it. And I'm not gonna go into a child psychology and them discovering pulling a nipple is sexual but not to them originally because it will probably turn into a NSFW discussion. Also they are not really targeted at the typical pedo group audience either which actual child porn is, so yeah. Also I don't think 50 year olds walk around with a PS Vita other than in their closet anyway.

And yeah, actual child porn is a larger issue than anime games like these.

I find stand-up comedy to be a little weird. I don't understand it!

Same, mostly because a lot are either the same or trying to be niche but failing and also playing entitled card on themselves and only they can joke about x thing because they are x. I also really can't concentrate on it well either.

 

[Alienfish]

More of a bother maybe, but you shouldn't let books raise your kids and think eg. recent trend with social realism books like "mommy gets her sick money" is better than pippi longstocking or nancy drew or stuff. just be a non lazy parent and explain what happens and what things mean, then there are of course those books that tackle hard/er things well but don't pick anything just to hang with the times if you enjoyed it yourself.

 

[neoratz]

I don't get why it's so "fantastic" when celebs come out with autism or aspergers(sometimes adhd but it's basically "lol its a superpower" crap so it's less heterogeneous so u can ignore it)

a) it varies a lot between individuals and what help you can and are able to get etc.
b) which leads me to these people obviously have money/contacts/family/therapists etc. that makes sure they get proper help
c) so they kinda misinform people and think all people work like them/the same

i sorta understand the points here, autism varies a lot from person to person and it is definitely very sad the amount of people who can't get help/are shamed for it and the majority of people are VERY misinformed on autism (most people's view of it is only of lower functioning autistic ppl, and even then they don't understand what lower functioning autism is like. it's like a caricature)...

but i don't think being positive about autism and praising people who reveal they're autistic is a bad thing either! it probably takes some people a lot of courage to reveal it with the negative image it has and i think it can help contribute to the idea that autism isn't necessarily a negative thing. i'd even say a lot of the negative sides to mid/high functioning autistic ppl are only negative because of (like you said) the lack of resources for us. even with the negative bits i still feel like overall i am happy to be autistic cuz i wouldn't be the same person without autism... i hope this wasn't too long xP i just feel passionate about this

Also I should say people who draws eg. loli games or stuff I highly doubt they go molest kids and remember these things have another culture where they are made, so I wouldn't cherry-pick this too much. The most sexual ones I've seen are pretty gross, though. I agree child-porn as actual pictures and videos of real people are incredibly and horrible gross but yeah sentencing someone for having a picture where a manga character eats a banana then no.

NOT TO DRAG THIS OUT but i wanted to comment on this bit too... while i also agree that people making these things are probably not going out and doing stuff in real life this stuff is still extremely harmful. i feel like reducing it to "sentencing someone for having a picture where a manga character eats a banana" is missing the point, and it's not a cultural thing either really. media like this can have many different negative effects. i wrote a post on this recently but idk if it's too inappropriate to share so i'm just gonna not link it here but i can send in PMs if anyone wants it.

the tl;dr of it is even seeing this stuff can desensitize people to it and normalize it and allow worse stuff to continue to be produced in the future. it can also cause long-lasting problems for people seeing it while they're kids and still figuring this stuff out. it can create addictions that take years of therapy to deal with, and most people can't even afford therapy. some people don't even see the problem while it's happening because of the communities they're in (like i said earlier, desensitizing and normalizing). this is a way bigger problem than most people think it is and it's really depressing that thinking this stuff is wrong is an unpopular opinion online. (not saying y'all said that i mean in other online spaces)

(mods feel free to delete this bit if it's too inappropriate btw i completely understand)

 

[Alienfish]

I think it's wrong because it's such an individual spectrum and diagnoses and varies so much from person to person, and celebrities doesn't really represent the everyday person and yeah especially not the high-functioning. And it adds to the stigma that you need to be known and come out with it etc. And sadly a lot of parents including my mom believes it's really homogenic like those people also, lol. I think more non-celebs and just yours or mine neighbour should come out with it instead and give their story rather than some random chick with a full support team on social media. I don't really give much for celebrities removing stigma on stuff unless it actually makes something happen and we have a loooong way to go there with eg beauty ideals also.
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About your point, I'm not trying to normalize the games and they are basically aimed at niche weebs who probably doesn't have a life anyway(very generalizing, but it's not that your casual car game dad knows about them anyway) but then they can handle it? Also not reducing, that was actually a real case when a manga translator got sentenced just for having that kind of picture(s) while not even doing anything with them what I know of.

I definitely see your problems with it, I do too if it gets in the wrong hands, but on the other hand those people should get educated what is right and wrong. As for real life child porn, yes that's heinous and shouldn't even exist.

I'm gonna end it with saying I definitely don't defend anything, cultures are different no matter how bad it might be. And I think there are worse manga, anime, and game examples that are even more normal when you think about it. If you wanna take it further, send me PM here or I'm at Discord.

 

[neoratz]

I don't really give much for celebrities removing stigma on stuff unless it actually makes something happen and we have a loooong way to go there with eg beauty ideals also.

i totally see your point and especially understand how you must feel having dealt with ur moms views and stuff.... and we DO definitely have a long way to go. even if i don't feel completely the same this makes sense to me!

Also not reducing, that was actually a real case when a manga translator got sentenced just for having that kind of picture(s) while not even doing anything with them what I know of.

ohhhh my bad. i misunderstood and thought you were using "sentenced" in the sense of people reporting/banning ppl who draw/repost/own/etc that kind of stuff... i think it's wrong to have it but can't speak on sentencing ppl for it cuz i don't feel like i know enough about legal stuff and i don't know that exact situation. sorry for my misinterpretation!

i won't say anything else on the other stuff in the 2nd half of ur response cuz i don't wanna carry this on too long but i do appreciate the response even if it's not something i fully agree with... i think this stuff is important to talk about!

 

[idiotdoomspiral]

I think it's wrong because it's such an individual spectrum and diagnoses and varies so much from person to person, and celebrities doesn't really represent the everyday person and yeah especially not the high-functioning. And it adds to the stigma that you need to be known and come out with it etc. And sadly a lot of parents including my mom believes it's really homogenic like those people also, lol. I think more non-celebs and just yours or mine neighbour should come out with it instead and give their story rather than some random chick with a full support team on social media. I don't really give much for celebrities removing stigma on stuff unless it actually makes something happen and we have a loooong way to go there with eg beauty ideals also.

i dont like most celebrities either especially with something like this because people who know nothing about autism tend to hop on and pretend that theyre an "ally" just because their fav celebrity was diagnosed. but the one good thing i can think of is that i guess it can still inspire everyday people on the spectrum and thats good enough for me. there are famous people who are autistic/famous people who have talked about autism very positively which inspires me personally!
what i dont like is how people like to gossip about which celebrity has autism without an official diagnosis.. it doesnt bother me at all if its a fictional character but why do it on a real person? you get clickbait articles like Celebrities U Didnt Know Have Autism. . . and its like "this guy may (MAY) have autism...because they quirky lol........" yes as someone on the spectrum i think i am quirky! but non-autistic people can be quirky. its not good to do that because it adds to the stigma we already have to face every day. theyre not autistic just because they might stick out of the social norm, why do people even do this

i sorta understand the points here, autism varies a lot from person to person and it is definitely very sad the amount of people who can't get help/are shamed for it and the majority of people are VERY misinformed on autism (most people's view of it is only of lower functioning autistic ppl, and even then they don't understand what lower functioning autism is like. it's like a caricature)...

but i don't think being positive about autism and praising people who reveal they're autistic is a bad thing either! it probably takes some people a lot of courage to reveal it with the negative image it has and i think it can help contribute to the idea that autism isn't necessarily a negative thing. i'd even say a lot of the negative sides to mid/high functioning autistic ppl are only negative because of (like you said) the lack of resources for us. even with the negative bits i still feel like overall i am happy to be autistic cuz i wouldn't be the same person without autism... i hope this wasn't too long xP i just feel passionate about this

because of the way i see and interact with the world i have been mistreated by a lot of people in my life which has put me down but i wouldnt change myself at all. i really like some of the qualities i have that probably wouldnt be as strong if i was neurotypical. i think it makes me a very passionate and empathetic person and the flaws that come with my other symptoms seem miniscule in comparison. there is way too much misinformation about us, to neurotypical people we are supposed to be unable to relate to others, incapable of social interaction and are fundamentally inappropriate, on the other hand were supposed to have superpowers and 140+ iq. im not ashamed of it at all but i tend to not tell people and mask my symptoms as best as i can just so that i can be treated like a normal person. i wish i could live in a world where i didnt have to do that. i also cant comment on nonverbal people because im not too familiar with their experiences but im sure theres a lot of misinformation about them as well.

i wrote a post on this recently but idk if it's too inappropriate to share so i'm just gonna not link it here but i can send in PMs if anyone wants it.

i am also interested in this

 

[sierra]

Moroon 5 is nails on a chalk board

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I find stand-up comedy to be a little weird. I don't understand it!

I used to watch a lot of standup but And I?d be exited to see them in a interview or talk show or another standup show and they would say the same jokes. I understand it?s hard to write a routine but I just find the whole process unnatural? These days I much prefer podcasts and youtubers. There?s something so much funnier about improvised comedy.

 

[idiotdoomspiral]

Moroon 5 is nails on a chalk board

maroon 5 is one of my least favourite bands ever. they used to be a band called kara's flowers which was mediocre but it's a lot better than what they are today. definition of sellout tbh

 

[Alienfish]

Moroon 5 is nails on a chalk board

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I used to watch a lot of standup but And I’d be exited to see them in a interview or talk show or another standup show and they would say the same jokes. I understand it’s hard to write a routine but I just find the whole process unnatural? These days I much prefer podcasts and youtubers. There’s something so much funnier about improvised comedy.

yep. m5 is bad.
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yeah improvisation can be fun depending on area but yeah forced jokes like stand up comedy nah
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as for the celeb autism stuff. if someone legit professor who can tell about struggles in a neutral way that applies to a general audience with nuances i don't mind but all these people writing books and playing on it all the time online yeah no

 

[sierra]

Moroon 5 is nails on a chalk board

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I used to watch a lot of standup but And I’d be exited to see them in a interview or talk show or another standup show and they would say the same jokes. I understand it’s hard to write a routine but I just find the whole process unnatural? These days I much prefer podcasts and youtubers. There’s something so much funnier about improvised comedy.

But that’s not to say I don’t like funny shows like parks and rec or mick and rorty. For me it’s different for shows because you hear the jokes once and it’s on to the next one.

maroon 5 is one of my least favourite bands ever. they used to be a band called kara's flowers which was mediocre but it's a lot better than what they are today. definition of sellout tbh

They are just so damn vanilla abc family boring

 

[neoratz]

Moroon 5 is nails on a chalk board

they're my mom's favorite band.... someone ik said it makes sense cuz they're such a middle-aged mom band LOL

 

[sierra]

they're my mom's favorite band.... someone ik said it makes sense cuz they're such a middle-aged mom band LOL

No disrespect to your mom, we all have imperfections haha

 

[SaminalCrossing]

Moroon 5 is nails on a chalk board

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I used to watch a lot of standup but And I?d be exited to see them in a interview or talk show or another standup show and they would say the same jokes. I understand it?s hard to write a routine but I just find the whole process unnatural? These days I much prefer podcasts and youtubers. There?s something so much funnier about improvised comedy.

SAME..... my mom's favorite radio station still plays some of their hits and it drives me nuts. adam levine specifically doesn't sound bad, but his voice doesn't mesh well with the whole musical aesthetic of the band lol

 

[Alienfish]

My mom probably liked them back in the days, not sure about now but yeah she has pretty.. special taste I don't really agree with xP

Also paid music journalism is pretty bull**** because they more or less never put in their actual opinion and just write what gives most dough :/ Tbf I'd rather read amateur music blogs that are 10 better

 

[Corrie]

I liked Maroon 5's music back then rather than these days. I find nowadays they sound so high pitched and obnoxious.

 

[Reginald Fairfield]

I liked Maroon 5's music back then rather than these days. I find nowadays they sound so high pitched and obnoxious.

I've only heard their early stuff.

 

[Alienfish]

I don't really think it's any prestige in getting x million amount of streams these day, considering how accessible and easy that is if you compare to someone who actual does a physical album and put money and soul into that..

 

[idiotdoomspiral]

i wish people would shut up about keanu reeves. i don't really mean normal fans but there aren't very many vocal ones, i don't consider someone to be a normal fan if they get all giddy when they see a photo where someone is invading his personal space by taking a picture of him having some time by himself with some ice cream because it's """wholesome""", telling a boy to kill himself just because he didn't like keanu/didn't know who he was or constantly gushing about how "nice" he is. he might be a really nice person but people need to stop putting him on some kind of god tier pedestal as when this happens in an interview he got uncomfortable when the interviewer kept going "ur so nice! u are so nice!" like a parrot. he probably has done some not-so-nice things in his life, everyone has. bill and ted is one of my favourite movies but overall as an actor he's overrated as hell, he's in a lot of bad movies and has acted poorly in multiple different films (see: dracula) it's embarrassing how shoehorned he is into everything right now, it's a ****ty trend that needs to die

 

[Alienfish]

^Agree when when people do kawaii "wholesome" faces at basically anyone like that... leave them alone?? they are person also not some god actor or stuff.