The Women's March!

[tumut]

Richard Spencer getting punched in the face was the highlight imo

 

[Leen]

Nope I didn't attend. I wasn't interested in participating in the biggest temper tantrum because "she" didn't win. We live in a country where women have the most rights, regardless of who's president that doesn't change my life.

Instead of living in a country where women have the most rights (compared to other countries), don't you want to live in a country with the same rights as everyone else?

 

[moonford]

Richard Spencer getting punched in the face was the highlight imo

Serves the neo-nazi brut for being in public, he's an eye sore.

The only problem I have with that is...he is an ugly creature why would someone touch him??? Oh! Another thing, that person just backed up that fool's point that the left is more intolerable (which is BS) very stupid move but still...

 

[LambdaDelta]

I'm glad we got a reminder that punching Nazis is our civic duty

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that person just backed up that fool's point that the left is more intolerable

tbf, "ideological group pushing for systematic genocide" shouldn't be considered tolerable by *any* person, regardless of political leaning

 

[moonford]

I'm glad we got a reminder that punching Nazis is our civic duty

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tbf, "ideological group pushing for systematic genocide" shouldn't be considered tolerable by *any* person, regardless of political leaning

Yep, so that's why his stupid face was punched. c:

 

[visibleghost]

i think there was one in stockholm but i didnt attend it lmao

i think it is Super cool how many ppl marched in the different marches !! it wont stop trump from being president but it is still important that ppl protest him ... i still dont understand how he could become president,,, like wtf.

 

[p e p p e r]

Instead of living in a country where women have the most rights (compared to other countries), don't you want to live in a country with the same rights as everyone else?

Just curious, how do you think women have unequal rights? Do you mean women in other countries don't have equal rights? A woman was almost president, and she didn't lose because she was a woman, she lost because she is shady and creepy af - not sure how much more equal you can get.

 

[Leen]

Just curious, how do you think women have unequal rights? Do you mean women in other countries don't have equal rights? A woman was almost president, and she didn't lose because she was a woman, she lost because she is shady and creepy af - not sure how much more equal you can get.

Okay...Here are a few examples of many, and this is within the U.S., FYI:

1. Women earn $0.70 cents for every $1 a man makes (and that's white women, it's even less for women of color).
2. Tampons and pads are taxed as luxury items while viagra (male erection drug) and rogaine (for baldness) are not.
3. The government is constantly trying to control what we can do with our bodies (i.e. access to birth control, abortion, etc.).
4. Retired women are twice as likely to live in poverty as retired men
5. We clearly have a greater risk for rape and domestic violence, including in the military
6. Let's not get started on women and careers in the military
7. Women face inequality is sports starting as young as high school where 28% of our country's public schools report a large gender inequality in sports
8. Women that are in a leadership role are considered a b***hes, while men in the same position are described as "strong" and a "natural born leader".

We are the constant minority:
9. We are extremely underrepresented in government. We make up 51% of the population yet only 20% of congress is comprised of women. In news media where only 32% of women are on camera reporters and only 37% in print. In businesses where only 17% of Fortune 500 execs are women. Technology fields where women only make up 30% of the workforce at google/Microsoft/etc.


Shall I continue?

 

[seliph]

^ The march wasn't about Hillary not winning, it's about how misogynistic the new President is and about how he and his crapfest of a cabinet wants to strip women of the rights they do have.

 

[tumut]

Just curious, how do you think women have unequal rights? Do you mean women in other countries don't have equal rights? A woman was almost president, and she didn't lose because she was a woman, she lost because she is shady and creepy af - not sure how much more equal you can get.

Jesus Christ this is a na?ve statement.

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It's mostly ingrained in our culture with how men and women are expected to act, and also how men are supposed to act and how it's harmful on both sides and striving for equality.

 

[Red Cat]

Just curious, how do you think women have unequal rights? Do you mean women in other countries don't have equal rights? A woman was almost president, and she didn't lose because she was a woman, she lost because she is shady and creepy af - not sure how much more equal you can get.

So let me get this straight:

Being a politician = shady and creepy af

Grabbing women by the ***** = not shady and creepy af

 

[Artist]

Okay...Here are a few examples of many, and this is within the U.S., FYI:

1. Women earn $0.70 cents for every $1 a man makes (and that's white women, it's even less for women of color).
2. Tampons and pads are taxed as luxury items while viagra (male erection drug) and rogaine (for baldness) are not.
3. The government is constantly trying to control what we can do with our bodies (i.e. access to birth control, abortion, etc.).
4. Retired women are twice as likely to live in poverty as retired men
5. We clearly have a greater risk for rape and domestic violence, including in the military
6. Let's not get started on women and careers in the military
7. Women face inequality is sports starting as young as high school where 28% of our country's public schools report a large gender inequality in sports
8. Women that are in a leadership role are considered a b***hes, while men in the same position are described as "strong" and a "natural born leader".

We are the constant minority:
9. We are extremely underrepresented in government. We make up 51% of the population yet only 20% of congress is comprised of women. In news media where only 32% of women are on camera reporters and only 37% in print. In businesses where only 17% of Fortune 500 execs are women. Technology fields where women only make up 30% of the workforce at google/Microsoft/etc.


Shall I continue?

Hold up, I don't give a **** about whatever your arguing, but some of these examples are very unfair to use in an argument.

"Tampons and pads are taxed as luxury items while viagra (male erection drug) and romaine (for baldness) are not."
- You picked two random examples of untaxed items vs taxed items. They don't even correlate at all. Erection drugs may not be taxed the same as tampons, but where does it say that is because they're for males? Do you have a legit source?
- Romaine is a unisex item as far as I'm aware - women use it mainly.

"The government is constantly trying to control what we can do with our bodies (i.e. access to birth control, abortion, etc.)."
- The "government" does the same to males. See: Viagra, an example you previously used. Same concept as birth control.

"Retired women are twice as likely to live in poverty as retired men"
- You can argue this is a retaliation to the 1st point or women not making enough money, but "society" doesn't specifically try to put retired women in poverty. This is a poor inequality example.

"We clearly have a greater risk for rape and domestic violence, including in the military"
- Using words like "clearly" and "risk" are opinionated and should be left out of your argument. Stick to the facts.

"Let's not get started on women and careers in the military"
"We are extremely underrepresented in government."
- If this is the route you want to argue, show the facts of how many women have been denied the job opposed to men. It doesn't mean crap if you just give numbers of how many actually work in those fields because, again, it's a woman's choice to work in them.

"Women that are in a leadership role are considered a b***hes, while men in the same position are described as "strong" and a "natural born leader". "
- Again, opinionated. Trash example.

"Women face inequality is sports starting as young as high school where 28% of our country's public schools report a large gender inequality in sports"
- Girls in public schools have the choice to play sports if they please.

Just stop acting so condescending oh my god. You either need to work on your forensic debate skills or just need to chill.

 

[Soraru]

Okay...Here are a few examples of many, and this is within the U.S., FYI:

1. Women earn $0.70 cents for every $1 a man makes (and that's white women, it's even less for women of color).
2. Tampons and pads are taxed as luxury items while viagra (male erection drug) and rogaine (for baldness) are not.
3. The government is constantly trying to control what we can do with our bodies (i.e. access to birth control, abortion, etc.).
4. Retired women are twice as likely to live in poverty as retired men
5. We clearly have a greater risk for rape and domestic violence, including in the military
6. Let's not get started on women and careers in the military
7. Women face inequality is sports starting as young as high school where 28% of our country's public schools report a large gender inequality in sports
8. Women that are in a leadership role are considered a b***hes, while men in the same position are described as "strong" and a "natural born leader".

We are the constant minority:
9. We are extremely underrepresented in government. We make up 51% of the population yet only 20% of congress is comprised of women. In news media where only 32% of women are on camera reporters and only 37% in print. In businesses where only 17% of Fortune 500 execs are women. Technology fields where women only make up 30% of the workforce at google/Microsoft/etc.


Shall I continue?

this. all of this.
i don't understand how there are people (especially women) in this country who aren't aware of this. whether woman has equal rights in this country, it shouldn't even need to be debated. they don't. period.
there is also sources/fact/statistics/polls/events that back this up. sometimes you don't even need to see the polls all you got to do is look at the cast of who is in power/charge of our laws and such. and count how many women there are, compared to men.

 

[Bunnilla]

I want to live in a world where women everywhere can be seen as equals to men. As far as I'm concerned, Trump sees women as objects. It makes me sad to think that in the 1900's women's minds were tainted that they can't do the same jobs as men and they should stick to the gender stereotypical roles like cooking, cleaning, etc. I think it's great that these women are marching because not only are they protesting against the worst "president" in U.S. history, but they are marching to promote that ALL women no matter what place or country get equal treatment. Sure in the U.S. we are almost equal, but in some places around the world they have to be accompanied by men at all times outside of the house, cover their head and face with a cloth, when a man is talking with your husband and you are beside him look down, and more. like wtf??? that's total bs
This isn't just about Trump, it's about the general welfare for all women. I think it's about time that the world should see that it doesn't matter what you are when you were born, and to give everyone the same rights no matter who or what they are.

 

[Leen]

Hold up, I don't give a **** about whatever your arguing, but some of these examples are very unfair to use in an argument.

"Tampons and pads are taxed as luxury items while viagra (male erection drug) and romaine (for baldness) are not."
- You picked two random examples of untaxed items vs taxed items. They don't even correlate at all. Erection drugs may not be taxed the same as tampons, but where does it say that is because they're for males? Do you have a legit source?
- Romaine is a unisex item as far as I'm aware - women use it mainly.

"The government is constantly trying to control what we can do with our bodies (i.e. access to birth control, abortion, etc.)."
- The "government" does the same to males. See: Viagra, an example you previously used. Same concept as birth control.

"Retired women are twice as likely to live in poverty as retired men"
- You can argue this is a retaliation to the 1st point or women not making enough money, but "society" doesn't specifically try to put retired women in poverty. This is a poor inequality example.

"We clearly have a greater risk for rape and domestic violence, including in the military"
- Using words like "clearly" and "risk" are opinionated and should be left out of your argument. Stick to the facts.

"Let's not get started on women and careers in the military"
"We are extremely underrepresented in government."
- If this is the route you want to argue, show the facts of how many women have been denied the job opposed to men. It doesn't mean crap if you just give numbers of how many actually work in those fields because, again, it's a woman's choice to work in them.

"Women that are in a leadership role are considered a b***hes, while men in the same position are described as "strong" and a "natural born leader". "
- Again, opinionated. Trash example.

"Women face inequality is sports starting as young as high school where 28% of our country's public schools report a large gender inequality in sports"
- Girls in public schools have the choice to play sports if they please.

Just stop acting so condescending oh my god. You either need to work on your forensic debate skills or just need to chill.

Rogaine is primarily marketed towards men. Not saying that women don't suffer from baldness, but that is mainly a man's affliction lol. And fine don't like tampons? How about men's razors vs women's razors? Regulation of Viagra vs birth control used for alternative reasons (PCOS, endometriosis, etc). This one also goes for your second comment about viagra vs birth control--which is laughable considering that insurance will cover viagra and it can be taken without permission or opinion from your employer, congressman, etc--much unlike birth control.

Don't condescendingly tell me how to formulate my argument and how to "stick to facts" when you're of the alternative facts variety there yourself. And by "clearly" I mean look it up on the CDC website. It's a fact.

"It's a woman's choice to work in these fields" -- wrong. It's an employers choice to choose to hire men over equally qualified (or higher qualified) women for these jobs. Again, you can look this information up on the US Bureau of Stats and census info along with independent reporting sources. Another fact for you.

"Girls in public schools have the choice to practice sports if they wish" -- To borrow your words that's opinionated and a trash example. There are less sports programs funded for girls than boys in public schools. You can look that one up as well.

Maybe instead of criticizing my choice of words, you can come back with actual facts and thoughts of your own? Since you didn't list a SINGLE fact or piece of evidence in your reply. Instead of whining about how I phrase a sentence how about you actually contribute an original thought?

 

[oath2order]

Okay...Here are a few examples of many, and this is within the U.S., FYI:

1. Women earn $0.70 cents for every $1 a man makes (and that's white women, it's even less for women of color).

The issue with the "pay gap" is that people look directly at a man and a woman working the same job, see different pays, and assume there's a pay gap without looking at other factors.

2. Tampons and pads are taxed as luxury items while viagra (male erection drug) and rogaine (for baldness) are not.

Yeah this one's bull****, **** the pink tax.

Thank god my state doesn't tax tampons and pads. Pennsylvania, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Minnesota have all solved this problem

3. The government is constantly trying to control what we can do with our bodies (i.e. access to birth control, abortion, etc.).

True.

4. Retired women are twice as likely to live in poverty as retired men

Source?

5. We clearly have a greater risk for rape and domestic violence, including in the military

I'm sorry, but "clearly"? That's a little sexist. How are women "clearly" at a greater risk?

6. Let's not get started on women and careers in the military

No, please do.

7. Women face inequality is sports starting as young as high school where 28% of our country's public schools report a large gender inequality in sports

I don't care enough about sports to answer this.

8. Women that are in a leadership role are considered a b***hes, while men in the same position are described as "strong" and a "natural born leader".

Men are also considered a*****es in leadership roles. Or a douchebag, or a dick, etc etc.

9. We are extremely underrepresented in government. We make up 51% of the population yet only 20% of congress is comprised of women. In news media where only 32% of women are on camera reporters and only 37% in print. In businesses where only 17% of Fortune 500 execs are women. Technology fields where women only make up 30% of the workforce at google/Microsoft/etc.

I can't say anything about the news media, print media, businesses, or tech fields, because I don't have the easily accessed sources for how many women actually try to go for those positions. BUT what I do have is a source on how many women ran for office in 2016!

16 women ran for Senate (40 in primaries) and 166 ran for the House of Representatives (272 in primaries) in 2016. There were overall 34 seats up for election in the Senate, and the entire House was up, which is 435 seats. Why do so few run?

 

[Red Cat]

I can't say anything about the news media, print media, businesses, or tech fields, because I don't have the easily accessed sources for how many women actually try to go for those positions. BUT what I do have is a source on how many women ran for office in 2016!

16 women ran for Senate (40 in primaries) and 166 ran for the House of Representatives (272 in primaries) in 2016. There were overall 34 seats up for election in the Senate, and the entire House was up, which is 435 seats. Why do so few run?

Women don't run for office as much as men do because politics is nasty and most of them don't want to be dragged through the mud. Women face a double standard in politics where they are considered too soft if they try to be nice and considerate of people, but if they try to be vocal and assertive and tough, then they are viewed as *****es. In the Senate races, many of the women running lost to male opponents.

 

[Tessie]

2. Tampons and pads are taxed as luxury items while viagra (male erection drug) and rogaine (for baldness) are not.

Wait sorry as a pharmacy student I just have to comment on this, excuse my off topic-ness lol

erectile dysfunction drugs like viagra are extremely expensive and insurance companies won't ever pay for it. Viagra itself can go for about $50 a pill and I have told men before their copay, sometimes just for 12 pills, is $700. it's very luxury indeed lol.
minoxidil (rogaine) is actually a blood pressure medication and depending on the dose it can indeed be treated for baldness, but for both sexes, not just men.

however yes, its ridiculous to tax tampons/pads, for use of a natural biological feature of women, as luxury :/
fortunately...my state doesnt tax them. go PA!

 

[Leen]

Wait sorry as a pharmacy student I just have to comment on this, excuse my off topic-ness lol

erectile dysfunction drugs like viagra are extremely expensive and insurance companies won't ever pay for it. Viagra itself can go for about $50 a pill and I have told men before their copay, sometimes just for 12 pills, is $700. it's very luxury indeed lol.
minoxidil (rogaine) is actually a blood pressure medication and depending on the dose it can indeed be treated for baldness, but for both sexes, not just men.

however yes, its ridiculous to tax tampons/pads, for use of a natural biological feature of women, as luxury :/
fortunately...my state doesnt tax them. go PA!

Looking further into it and it looks like viagra just recently within the past year hasn't been covered by most insurance companies. I stand corrected.

By referencing to viagra, I was trying to make a point that women's birth contraceptives are heavily regulated and our tampons/pads are taxed in most states.

Thanks for your input, Tessie

 

[visibleghost]

yo w/ ppl saying "but men have those issues too !!!" in reply to issues women face... like do u realize that ut is on complwtely different levels? women are victims of sexual assault abd sexual abuse way more iften than men. yes, men can get raped but women are victims way more often.
also why do peoole only care about men being raped when they want to say that women being raped isnt such a big issues smh

cat calling, slut shaming, the "boys will be boys" mindset and othr types of casual sexism are things women experience. women are called *****es or bossy when taking the role of a leader. i have personally both seen it and experienced it. it is Super obvious when boys and girls are treated way differently because of their gender.
women have to deal w/ a bunch of crappy sexist **** and imo u all should listen to women and their experiences instead of yelling for sources and Real Facts bc it is kinda crappy to dismiss their experiences ..., like isnt it better to listen instead of screaming about how theyre filthy liars or w/e